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  1. Bit of a tough one, it’s come up before. I know people argue that others are free to do what they want with their own time, but I think that’s a bunch of liberal rubbish. Certain careers, jobs and associations have an image to uphold, and sucking people off on the internet is, in some circumstances, inappropriate and spoils that image.

    I think he should argue that it’s an unfair restriction on his personal freedom than blabbering on about porn being an art form. It’s bad enough the porn industry lavish the money they earn from sad lonely people on award ceremonies for “acting” without starting to call it an art form too! lol

    I hope he gets to dance again in any case.

    1. Gene in L.A. 8 Jul 2013, 7:33pm

      The bottom line to your post seems to be that you disagree about porn being an art form. That’s fair. Some people disagree that film in general is an art form. We all have different opinions.

      1. Definitely the bottom line.

      2. You think porn is an art form? Yeah right, people are going to be watching cockyboy films in 2000 years because they are so culturally important. LOL. Go and have a wank.

    2. The only people that it ruins the image for are those who go seeking out porn. I think it is hypocritical for anyone who watches porn to then say that this man degrades ballet because he did porn.

      If you think it is immoral to be in a porn film, it should be just as immoral to be watching it.

      1. No one is saying it is immoral to be in a porn film. Are they? He should do porn. Nothing wrong with that. But I assure you if natalie portman did porn, she would not be a hollywood actress, or if david beckham did porn, he would not be a world class athlete, or if beyonce did porn she would not be the star she is, so why does this kid think that he should be a porn star and a ballet star? Get some perspective on reality.

    3. Nah, I don’t agree with Chris (I’m the other one) at all.

  2. If he didn’t sign a document with some morals clause, the ballet company is liable for damages. Really – does anyone care if a dancer does porn on the side?

    1. If a commercially-produced porn film of, say, Darcey Bussell or Tamara Rojo suddenly came to light, do you really think no-one would care?

      1. They’re very famous people so, evidently, it would be quite salacious.

        Should anyone judge them as immoral for such an enterprise? Or judge whatever ballet companies they have worked with as such? The latter would certainly be very silly indeed.

        1. I don’t think it’s necessarily a question of morality, it’s more a question of PR and the degree of attention, or notoriety, that they’d bring to a company, and for what reasons. Admittedly it doesn’t sound as though the RWB handled the issue particularly well.

    2. While I agree that what people choose to do is there own business, he still represented another brand so the other brand has every right to protect its brand.

      The fact that he left to pursue porn full time suggests that he was never really serious about a career in ballet anyway.

  3. Mihangel apYrs 8 Jul 2013, 7:56pm

    “it asked him to sign a letter saying that he had voluntarily withdrawn from the program.”

    So they tried to force him to lie to cover their backs.

    I hope NONE of the sanctimonious judgers use porn, or prostitutes, or try to engage their students in relationships.

    I wonder who told on him – not a nice thing to do, or maybe a staff member saw him on DVD.

    1. they gave him the chance to resign rather than be kicked out.
      I think that shows a lot of class on the school’s part.

      kicking him out would have destroyed his future chances of working in the field of dance.

      by resigning, the reasons aren’t important. he can alter return to dance if he really doesn’t want to do porn for a living.

      now, HE is the one who made an issue out of this.
      HE is the one who went to the media to cry about being forced out of the school program.
      had he kept his yap shut, he could have gone on, done his fu*king for a living, and if he so chose, if he was still good enough, return to dance later (though in all honesty, his chances of returning to dance after leaving for even 1 year are slim to none. he’s already “old” for a dancer in his position).

      1. Okay, Mikey, so let’s say YOU lose your job for something that has absolutely nothing to do with your work performance — maybe they don’t like it that you marry someone of another race, for example. Do you slink away and pretend it never happened, or do you make an objection to it? And, if you object, does it then become YOUR fault that you were fired? Your argument is very, very leaky.

        1. at least have the decency to compare similar situations.

          he wasn’t kicked out for being gay.

          if I work at a job 9 to 5, and try and have another full-time job at the same time, my work at the 1st job will suffer, and yes, my boss WILL have every reason to want to fire me.

          the students in the professional coarse of the RWB are expected to WORK there butts off, and they have full coarse load and LOTS of rehearsal time.

          doing porn cuts into that schedule, and takes his concentration away from the work for which he is being paid. and yes, getting a scholarship is the same as being paid. you’ve been given money with the expectation that you will work hard to merit that payment.

          he was kicked out for perfectly legitimate reasons.

  4. The fact that they insisted on him signing a form saying he was leaving voluntarily suggests they didn’t have a legal way of getting rid of him.

    1. No, the fact that they allowed him a gracious exit by allowing him to resign rather than simply being kicked out shows that they took at least a bit of consideration for his future job prospects as a dancer.

      again, it isn’t being repeated enough here with all the porn-indignation:

      HE is the one who made a ruckus and brought this to the media. not the school.

      HE is the one who has destroyed his chances of returning to work as a dancer by turning this into a publicity campaign.

      1. Paul (Canada) 14 Jul 2013, 5:08pm

        But he is in the right. The school had no right to ask him to leave. His career is his choice, not the school’s.

  5. Mihangel apYrs 8 Jul 2013, 7:58pm

    I would add that neither Nijinsky nor Nureyev would have been allowed into this prissy school

    1. No, I seriously doubt either of them would have had sex in front of a camera for purely commercial purposes. Possibly what this issue boils down to is what you seek to profit from.

      1. Mihangel apYrs 9 Jul 2013, 7:02am

        Nijinsky was shagging Diagelev – was it love or advantage? And Rudi was no angel.

        This was simply self-righteous prudery, and he was sent down for no reason save their invented one.

        A talented young man has been punished for a legal act, who profitted by his sacking, and what have we lost?

        1. I didn’t say there were, you’ll note. But if there had been videos of them in, ahem, action, easily accessible from many if not most computers in the world, I don’t think they’d have had a chance.

          1. If videos of them had been available on EVERY computer in the world, it wouldn’t have made any difference, as there were no computers in Nijinsky’s lifetime and few in Rudi’s.

          2. Oh gosh, thanks so much for that, I’d never have known.

            Sheesh.

  6. And I’m pretty sure that if another celebrity lets say a TV Presenter, did gay porn as a sideline, they too would be asked to leave. And call me cynical, but by going to the press with this I’m pretty sure he’s now increased his porn income 50 fold…

    1. I for one intend to seek his ‘art’ out:-)…

      1. One should seek out “Jett Black” on “Cockyboys”.

        1. For the torrentistas among you, most of them are on gay-torrents dot net *wink*

        2. Haha…presumably a reference to ‘Swan Lake’….

      2. LOL my link giving his porn name and the porn website was removed, despite being all over the internet, in the Daily Mail, and a clip with the website logo shown on Canadian CBC News here – http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/Manitoba/ID/2396043107/

      3. Rudehamster 10 Jul 2013, 11:33pm

        His porn is good.
        I’ve spoken to Jeppe on several occasions in the last months.
        He’s a lovely guy and really was very upset about RWB and the loss of his career.

        1. Don’t you mean the loss of one of his careers?

  7. Porn is great! Gay porn in particular is usually shot and produced beautifully. It is absolutely wrong to be seeing his involvement in porn as a problem to his dancing. It’s great to see gay porn stars having other professional careers. It makes the porn more exciting sometimes knowing they actually wear clothes sometimes! Yay for porn! :D

    1. Christopher in Canada 8 Jul 2013, 9:33pm

      I agree!!! This whole prudish attitude about porn and sex for pay is a hold-over from the C19 and needs to GO! Anyone commenting negatively here about his decision to have sex in front of a camera is someone that a) hasn’t been laid in the last generation and b) needs to do more crunches. Sex is good; sex is natural! We are the ONLY species on the planet that tries to hide intercourse from the rest of the herd. Dolphins and whales are more intelligent, and they have orgies…

      Don’t get me started on how we live in a breast-obsessed and penis-denying society that’s based on women being but playthings for str8 men and how women are supposed to settle for the fact that once the crotch-minimizing tux comes off, all men are NOT created equal!

      1. OK, fair enough, so – just for argument’s sake – would you be happy about a prostitute becoming your head of state?

        Incidentally, we’re also the only species on earth that makes unthreatening eye contact while eating. Not everything that humans do (and animals don’t) is necessarily wrong.

        1. Id rather have a prostitute as head of state than Prince Charles!

        2. If they’re a democratically elected head of state then sure…

          I’m not really sure what your point is Rehan. You usually make so much sense.

          1. I think it’s all very well saying that sex workers are just workers like anyone else: fair enough. But the reality is that most people would be uncomfortable with seeing the genitals in action of someone in the public eye, call it a double standard if you like, especially when such evidence is so easily accessible now thanks to the internet. Hence why it would eliminate any chances of becoming a movie star even today. I have no objection whatever to porn, but I doubt there’s a ballet, theatre or opera company that’d be happy with such exposure (as it were).

            But who knows, maybe this’ll be a test case that changes attitudes. I’m a little surprised to find how positively Victorian I sound!

          2. (BTW thanks Joss – you too.)

          3. Midnighter 9 Jul 2013, 11:28am

            @Rehan – popular opinion isn’t automatically correct or sensible, and the biggest flaw of Victorian morality was its hypocrisy, so in my view you have no worries there.

            In this case I rather feel that positions are being taken on the basis of presumptions about who ‘might’ be offended or what the fallout ‘might’ be.

            My experience is that many people take a stand based on their perception of what their peers would consider to be moral, rather than having the moral courage to take a potentially unpopular stance. This seems to be especially true of people covering their backs within an organisation.

            I’m not convinced there is any real issue here myself. The test for morality in my view is “where is the harm?” So what , if everyone knows one of their dancers does porn? How does that materially affect the reputation of the company? They can choose to endorse or decry such practice, and the world will know the company’s view is different from the individual.

          4. Yes, that’s reasonable (as always) Midnighter. But I still don’t think the company is necessarily to blame for its reaction (though the way they handled it could have been better) – there’s also the issue of discipline within the team: from my scant knowledge of the ballet world it seems that aspiring dancers have to give 110% at least, I don’t know how they can fit in another career as well; and there’s the teamwork aspect too, I don’t think most people have quite as casual a reaction to porn as many gay men do.

          5. The issue about time management and dedication is the only one that should be applicable in my view, and in this case it would need to be demonstrable that this principle was applied equally to all members.

            As far as teamwork, those people who claim offence at working with someone whose sexuality and/or life choices they disapprove of have no moral case in my view; if they don’t like gay porn, don’t watch it, end of story. If a dancer were to claim that religionists offended them due to a traumatic childhood experience with a priest, would the company suddenly ban those people from attending Church? Of course not.

        3. Rather a prostitute than a mass murdering lunatic or self-deluding narcissist who invades and wrecks other countries on the basis of made-up evidence….I think the world would be a far better place if we had more prostitutes and fewer would-be Napoleons in charge….

          1. Easy to say, isn’t it?

        4. Christopher in Canada 10 Jul 2013, 2:45pm

          Why are you separating humans from animals in the first place? Mighty presumptuous and egotistical of you – speciesist! As far as eye contact, how many species have you observed as they eat? Seeing as most mammal land carnivores have eyes on the sides of their heads, it’s hard to tell just where they are looking. Or are you talking owls and chimps?

          1. I don’t think many other species have developed classical ballet or, for that matter, gay porn films, have they?

            The eye-contact observation isn’t based on my own observations, it’s mentioned in Martin Jones’s Feast. You could substitute cutting hair, wearing shoes, reading music and a multiplicity of other distinguishing factors, if you like. On the hand, if you prefer to be seen as an animal, so be it!

            http://global.oup.com/academic/product/feast-9780199209019;jsessionid=DC64B352BDEB0C4CE616682905F367E8?cc=gb&lang=en&

          2. Christopher in Canada 11 Jul 2013, 12:57pm

            Rehan, you just proved my point. You see yourself as different and above animals, though you are one – a mammal, and a primate. You are imposing the human concept of class hierarchy on the world. Meanwhile, the animal world imposes its own hierarchy – mainly, demonstrative sexual prowess.

            I grew up on a farm. Animals surround me. Do you think less of me for my rural upbringing? Does it compare to whatever yours was?

          3. Christopher if you have a point, I fail to see it. The very action of farming involves controlling nature in general, and livestock in particular, something I think you will agree other species don’t do in an organised fashion.

            If you want to see yourself as akin to a cow or a crow, by all means do, you’re quite free to think whatever you want: but then I don’t really know why you’re writing your thoughts down through the medium of a computer – are you perhaps interpreting on behalf of your feathered and furry comrades? Is that not somewhat patronising of you?

  8. Berniebear 8 Jul 2013, 9:44pm

    Well, I’m sure his porn money just increase a hell of a lot thanks to this article…

  9. Scott Larsen 8 Jul 2013, 10:06pm

    Because this revelation happened when he was employed by the Royal Winnipeg Ballet in a part of Canada certainly not known for its liberalism, may I offer a larger question? If this discovery of side porn work by Jeppe Hansen happened in Toronto, NYC or Copenhagen (oldest ballet company in the world with the Danes less uplight around pornography), would this have still happened to him?

    1. Christopher in Canada 8 Jul 2013, 10:18pm

      All I know is, as of now, this boy is a star!! And the Royal Winnipeg is in…. Winnipeg…

      1. The guy fu**s for a living. How exactly does that make him a “star”?

        For someone who doesn’t hesitate to put down Winnipeg, you certainly set the bar pretty low for yourself on things that DO impress you.

        (and since you obviously know squat about the world of ballet, the RWB is one of THE top dance companies in the world right now)

        1. “the RWB is one of THE top dance companies in the world right now”

          Is it? I know you`re gonna crucify me for saying this but I don`t think I ever heard of this company within my 40 years in the Ballet world, Never heard about any of its dancers either on the international scene… so, one of THE top in the world????

          1. you need to get out more, then.

    2. How many members of the Danish Royal Ballet do you know who can be found on film having sex for money?

  10. Having done some research into this, it’s evident to me something more cynical is going on with this story.

    He’s been doing porn for several months now, has adopted the lifestyle and attitude of a young gay lad out to have fun. His “porn pseudonym” (listed above) has his own twitter account, where he posts dozens images and videos of himself out and about on the NY gay scene, as well as hard core pictures of some of his porn work.

    If he’s adopted this lifestyle so easily, why then all of a sudden does he decide to go back to CBC and other media organisations and bring up his past ballet work and their “unfairness” at asking him to leave? He has made a conscious choice about the lifestyle change, and from the evidence of his twitter photos is clearly enjoying himself.

    People can therefore draw there own conclusions from this, but I’m of the clear view from what I’ve seen, that this is purely a well crafted publicity stunt by him and his porn company.

    1. While some people seem to be upset at the idea that he was rejected from one of the top ballet schools for doing porn (not “in the past” but AT THE SAME TIME), I don’t object.

      If he has enough energy to be concentrating on a “porn career”, then he’s obviously not investing enough energy into the ballet.

      I’ve done classical dance, and it’s a MASSIVE investment of energy. One of my nieces is a ballerina and I know for a fact that she simply can’t afford the time or energy to have any sort of “side line” job.

      If he wanted to be a dancer, he’d be concentrating on that. I suspect that there’s a LOT more to this than the article claims. I suspect this kid has some serious attitude problems.

      1. Making a porn movie is hardly what I would call a time consuming part time job… I think anyone could fit in a few hours of sex into their schedules… he`s 22 so I`m sure he was more than able to do his ballet training seriously with enough energy as well as having sex in front of a camera.
        Dancers DO HAVE SEX!!!

  11. let’s be clear about something right from the start, for all you porn afficionados. he is in a “professional” school, one which is very highly regarded, he got one of the FEW coveted spots in the school.

    If he can’t concentrate on dance, and MUST be doing porn too, then he doesn’t deserve one of those limited spots in the school and should give up his place to someone else who WILL appreciate it and take full advantage of it.

    And by the way, from the student handbook of the Royal Winnipeg ballet school: “Please note that RWB School Professional Division students are not permitted to perform outside of the RWB School without permission from the RWB School Director. Any student wishing to participate in any additional dance program during RWB School breaks must also receive approval from the RWB School Director in advance. Requests for authorization must be submitted in writing.”

    So he broke the rules, and now has to suffer the consequences of his ill-thought out actions.

    1. I do agree with you Mikey. I was in two minds about this earlier, but since seeing his twitter account I now come firmly on the “made your own bed, lie in it” side of things.

      I think it’s a question of maturity too, (or lack of it.) A career in ballet would be a lifetime of achievement, if he puts all his energies into it. It will still be going strong probably in 20 years. How long will his porn career last?

      Also, although I would hope they’re supportive of him, I do wonder what his parents are more proud of, his RWB scholarship, or his many hard core no holds barred porn movies and continuous promotion of his porn site? (All artistic of course…)

      1. Rudehamster 10 Jul 2013, 11:39pm

        What a ridiculous comment to make: what the hell does he have to make his parents proud for? What century are you living in?
        We work to please ourselves, not the morals of our parents.

    2. He wasn’t enrolled at the time he did porn, and was not subject to RWB rules at that time, obviously. If he had done porn WHILE an RWB student he could be said have broken the rules. As it is now he did no such thing, Miss Grundy.

      1. You need to get your facts right.
        He was enrolled at the RWB school in September of 2012.
        He made the porn in February of 2013.
        He broke the rules.
        He’s a little idiot and now he’s whining because he got caught.

        1. Rhod Gates 10 Jul 2013, 9:13am

          How did he break the rules you quoted?

    3. that statement reffers specifically to not being allowed to perform dance without permission from the school director, he performed porn, not a striptease act

  12. It’s their school, and they can have in it who they want. Just because he’s gay does not give him the special moral right to impose himself on the ballet school. It’s not like he doesn’t have another career beckoning.

  13. James Savik 9 Jul 2013, 1:59am

    pretty twinks = high art in my eyes.

  14. Omg, I’d have been more shocked to find out that he was straight!

    1. You clearly have more prejudice than knowledge of that world. Exactly how many well-known male ballet stars can you name who are known to be gay?

      1. are you kidding?
        Let`s start… Rudolf Nureyev, Wayne Sleep, Anthony Dowel, Patrick Dupond, Jorge Donn, Paolo Bortuluzzi…shall I continue?

        1. Yes please, and include some who are stars still dancing today if you can. You might find the number you can come up with is a disproportionately small fraction of the total, especially given the assumption the sillier types sustain that all male ballet dancers are gay.

          1. I actually stuck to stars who danced in the past as I`m not here to out anyone. Neither did I ever say that all male ballet dancers are gay. you dared someone to give examples of famous dancers being gay… I took the challenge but don`t put words in my mouth please.
            I`ve been in the ballet business for over 40 years and I do know that the amount of gay people in ballet companies has drastically decreased since the 80s. Most people don`t find ballet artistic anymore as it`s become something of a display of circus tricks only Russians and Cubans used to perform in the past. Most gay men who want to be ballet dancers and train hard at it don`t get jobs and go towards more flashy type of performing (once more nothing wrong there, just saying…)

          2. So when you say you’re not here to out anyone, you’ve completely missed the point I made, ie who are known to be gay. Thanks for proving my point so efficiently.

          3. Neither did I ever say that all male ballet dancers are gay

            I didn’t say you did, but that was more or less what Jessica implied above – I was referring to her, not to you.

  15. Yes, he probably made a miscalculation – underestimating how stuck up the ‘high’ arts people are – but I think he should fight his corner.

  16. Well it’s two careers that end when you’re young. Neither is a long term choice anyway.

  17. John E. Harris-White 9 Jul 2013, 8:24am

    Jeppe should be readmitted to his ballet school. What he did was art, and earning his pocket money.
    If the school fails to admit him, im sure other top class ballet schools will welcome him, so we can all enjoy his dancing in the future.
    Remember NUREYEV WHO GAVE US JOY BOTH ON AND OFF THE STAGE !

    1. I’m sorry John but art? Really? Come on, If I want to watch some art, I’ll go to the cinema, theatre, gallery, opera or ballet, to be entertained, astonished, mesmerised, and maybe even moved to tears. Jeppe had that ability.

      If I want a w**k I’ll watch his porn. I’m not being prudish, nor a snob, nor am I being pompous about it. I enjoy both actvities, but it’s a very different type of joy. And it is most definitely not art. lol

  18. Would it be ok if he had a 2nd career that wasn’t porn?? Say he was a model for underwear, would that be ok or is it the fact that he is having sex and getting paid? Some people are just prudish!

    1. no, actually, it would also break the rules of the school.

      no outside performance of any sort without prior approval of the school’s director/board.

      He is being given a SCHOLARSHIP. and it is not a cheap skimpy affair, but if that amount of money isn’t enough for him, then he is in the wrong line of work.

      He is being paid AND given the chance to study with the best, and be on career track with the best.
      How complicated is it to understand that the school, and the dance company, have EVERY right to expect the recipient of a scholarship to actually CONCENTRATE on DANCE?

      1. So if he worked a few shifts in McDonalds…not exactly a performance, would that be ok?

      2. that`s BS… sorry but in a lot of vocational dance schools apprentice dancers take part time jobs and don`t have to ask for permission from anyone to do so. Modelling is not dancing so if they had a problem with it they should rewrite their rule book into something like the student is OUR exclusive property and should not do ANYTHING outside the school.

  19. Colin (London) 9 Jul 2013, 9:11am

    To me just as he has the right to get involved in porn they have a right to run their business as they see fit.

    Their business has to take into account what the public will accept economically and public acceptance. They need bums on seats so if they feel anything will damage their business they have a right to make changes.

    This is not about ART and I have no problem with porn but about both Mr Hansen’s and the Ballet companies rights together with consequences.

    The ballet school had a code of conduct. Trivial story really

  20. What a stupid young man. He made his choice. A terrible waste of talent, really. Lets hope he’s as good at porn as he apparently is at ballet. Comparisons with Nureyev and Nijinsky are ridiculous. Dance has always had lots of Gay men. – promiscuous or otherwise. What’s that got to do with doing porn movies that will soil the aesthetic of the company that has put their faith in you? Shallow little burke.

    1. Mihangel apYrs 9 Jul 2013, 11:54am

      you are aware that some dance is performed in the nude “for aesthetic purposes”. In actual fact it could be performed as well or better in a body stocking. Getting their bits out is high-art titillation (i.e. porn) to get the hioity-toity in to whitter about art while gazong on c*ck and c*nt.

      In this case who has benefitted from his expulsion? Not the “art”, but maybe his replacement.

      1. Some modern-dance companies, yes – very few, if any, classical ballet companies. Whatever the intimacy of some of the moves, and however much is more or less visible, and despite the accusations of double standards, you’ll agree that scarcely any “high art” features erections or graphic penetrative sex.

        1. Mihangel apYrs 9 Jul 2013, 2:50pm

          I recognise that they’re different “art” forms, but he claim of the purety ballet of “high art” is rather snobbish considering some of its history.

          My bottom line is that I can’t see what the conflict is in this young man’s activities. The culturati still listen to Wagner despite his anti-semitism! It seems too much of a pearl clutching exercise

          1. I think that’s his bottom line (arf) too.

            Wagner’s personal anti-Semitism, along with that of the vast majority of Europeans for centuries, is utterly irrelevant to this discussion.

          2. In case you didn’t know, there is STILL debate in the musical community regarding Wagner, his anti-Semitism, and how this is reflected in his creative output.

            So no, there is no comparison with a kid who wants to fu** on screen instead of working at what he is being PAID to work at: ballet. And yes, he is being paid to do so, he is a SCHOLARSHIP student.

        2. Christopher in Canada 10 Jul 2013, 3:02pm

          They should. It’s an integral part of life, and art is supposed to imitate life, is it not? Again, this is nothing but prudery and shaming someone for sex, which only shows how screwed up we are as a society.

          1. Heh – it’s actually rather amusing to speculate what parts of life Swan Lake, The Sleeping Beauty, Giselle, Coppelia, Petrushka and Firebird imitate: suicidal interspecies love, wicked fairy godmothers, ghosts called Wilis (not willies), love among dolls and puppets, and a magic bird. It makes my own life seem sadly colourless…

    2. Rudehamster 10 Jul 2013, 11:36pm

      You really are as bad and as blinkered as the idiots who made the decision based on blind bigotry.

      and…it’s berk, not ‘burke’.

      1. He must have know that his conservatoire would object to his appearing in porn. If he had made the movies before beginning his training there `I would take a different position. Blue Peter fired presenter Michael Sundin when they discovered he had previously appeared in Gay porn. I felt sorry for him. Not feeling sorry for this berk.

  21. GingerlyColors 9 Jul 2013, 9:47am

    Unlike regular film-making, the porn industry does have a seedy image. For a start you don’t get the red carpet rolled out every spring for an Oscar ceremony for porn stars!
    Ballet on the other hand has an ‘upper class’ image which is incompatible with the image of sex films and therefore it makes it difficult for the likes of Jeppe Hansen to choose between the two.
    Personally I do not think that anybody who watches porn are going to complain if they see a ballet dancer they saw last week at Sadler’s Wells in it. As for ballet itself, the outfits leave little to the imagination so I do not know what the problem is.
    Incidently there was an all-male version of Swan Lake, choreographed by Matthew Bourne who is himself gay. While it did stir up some controversy, it did not mean an end to ballet as we knew it.

    1. Actually, you know, there are the AVN Awards (Woodys) held annually in Las Vegas. I believe there are even red carpets involved …

      (The wonderful Bourne Swan Lake wasn’t all-male BTW, only the swans were.)

  22. Suddenly Last Bummer 9 Jul 2013, 10:18am

    Jett Black? These guys are nothing if not dumb.

    1. The chief protagonist in Swan Lake is a black swan, so in fact it’s not a bad porn name for a male ballet dancer…

      1. Rudehamster 11 Jul 2013, 12:03am

        Jeppe is a very bright guy. He’d wipe the floor with Suddenly Last Bummer, that’s for sure.

    2. Rudehamster 11 Jul 2013, 12:01am

      You’ve just shown you are shallow enough to read a book by it’s cover.

      I have, over the years, known of and known personally, a number of porn stars and prostitutes that have degrees, doctorates and have full careers off screen. Some are among the nicest and most down to earth people I’ve ever had the pleasure to meet.

      Your suggestion that they are ‘dumb’, just shows your own bigotry and stupidity.

  23. He made his bed, he now has to lie in it. This has nothing to do with being gay and everything to do with the commitment necessary to be a ballet dancer.

    1. Agreed. I’m sure if a girl got her buns out in a porn she’d be kicked out too. It’s the school’s image. It’s not homophobic at all.

      1. I didn’t get the sense that his being gay had anything to do with it. They could be sex-phobic, but as long as it’s applied equally – to men and women, gay and straight – I am apt to agree that he made a stupid decision.

        1. Can’t help but disagree a school or employer can ask for commitment WHILE YOU ARE ON THEIR PREMISES: in their classromms, on there stages ect, but your they have no right to ask a thing when your not there: as soon as you walk out at the end of the day your a private individual again and what you do is nobodies business but your own. Also a lot of people have to do sex work in order to fund there education because of the time involved in a ‘regular’ student job would take away from the study time and student loans don’t quite cut it. His choices he makes outside school are nothing to do with his school

  24. Three women I went to Drama School with – worked as escorts all through their training – they left better than debt free – as apposed to all of us who left in debt to the tune of 10k plus – I think it is a job and any judgement of such a pursuit is just an obnoxious high ground taken to make discrimination palatable.

    1. were your three hooker friends at Drama School also getting scholarships from that Drama School?

      1. Christopher in Canada 10 Jul 2013, 3:07pm

        Who cares? Why are you so “hooked” on demeaning sex workers? I had a part-time job at Marks Work Wearhouse while I went to drama school – does that make me a whore? You are discriminating against sex workers because of your own hypocritical sense of “morality”. Now go have some sex and feel better.

  25. I fail to see how he can fairly be punished for actions taken when he wasn’t a student there and which were not illegal. He even used a pseudonym, The matter might never have become public like this had RWB not made a huge issue of it.

    1. Facts, dude, you really need to get the facts.

      He was enrolled at the RWB school in September 2012.
      He did his first porn in February 2013.

      He broke an explicitly stated rule (page 12 in the student handbook) regarding “outside performance” without authorization from the school.

      As a scholarship student, one taking a place that is coveted by dozens of other equally meritorious dancers, he was absolutely correctly dismissed from the school.

      1. Mihangel apYrs 10 Jul 2013, 4:21pm

        but he was BETTER than those meritorious students – that’s why he got the scholarship.

        This smacks to much of prudery and in artistic terms focuses on the man off stage rather than the dancer

  26. Porn star or ballet star. He chose porn. His choice. Why has he got a problem with it if that’s what he wanted? Or did he really think it wouldn’t be a problem? Seriously?

    1. What an unforgiving person you are.

      People make choices that maybe they later regret in life, that doesn’t mean they dot deserve a second chance.

  27. Perhaps Canadian LGBT organisations should consider incorporating sex work or occupational status antidiscrimination provisions into their antidiscrimination laws? It’s been done in Australia.

    One hopes Jensen gets to dance again.

    1. nothing is stopping him from dancing.
      he’s simply been kicked out of a prestigious professional school and had his scholarship revoked for breaking one of the rules of that school.
      HE is the one who wanted to do porn.
      And by the way, HE is the one calling porn “artistic expression”.
      So in effect, he is admitting publicly that he broke the rule, and that he knew about it.
      He may be cute, he may be a great dancer, but it doesn’t mean he’s particularly intelligent.

      1. Mihangel apYrs 10 Jul 2013, 7:11am

        I didn’t realise inntelligence was a criterion for being a dancer.

        I’m afraid what has come out of your contributions is that you se ballet as being too pure an art form to be sullied anyting “icky”.

        Would it have been OK for him to flip burgers if he needed cash? Would it have been OK for him to do anythin gwith his time apart from eat sleep [necessary activities] and dance?

        I’m grateful that you admit that he may be a great dancer (probably since he got a scholarship) but are willing that he is discarded because he didn’t meet the nannying standards of the company he attended.

        I wonder if they would have encouraged him to sleep with a suitable wealthy sponsor?

        1. What part of “he broke the rules” is unclear to you? From the student handbook:

          “Please note that RWB School Professional Division students are not permitted to perform outside of the RWB School without permission from the RWB School Director. Any student wishing to participate in any additional dance program during RWB School breaks must also receive approval from the RWB School Director in advance. Requests for authorization must be submitted in writing.”

          He performed outside of the RWB School without permission from the director. Surely he knew he was supposed to obtain this permission if he didn’t want to risk dismissal, so why do you suppose he didn’t request the director’s permission? Perhaps because he knew perfectly well that he would not receive it under the circumstances?

          You don’t need a PhD to be able to follow rules you agreed to when you signed on. He made a choice, now he has to live with the consequences of that choice.

          1. Hmmm….Any student wishing to participate in any additional dance program during RWB School breaks must also receive approval from the RWB School Director in advance.

            Was he dancing?

      2. To tell you the truth after seein a video of him training in a NY dance studio, I don`t see him as a great dancer. He does have physical potential but nothing out of the ordinary that would put him into the principal dancer position in any ballet companies…especially at his age. He would already be kind of old to join his first ballet company and would probably spend most of his career waving flowers and dancing in the corps de ballet

    2. Christopher in Canada 10 Jul 2013, 3:10pm

      Prostitution is in the process of being taken off the law books as we speak. It’s this British heritage about bawdy houses we are trying to crawl out from under. Think that’s bad? Look at being gay in Jamaica…

      1. What “British” heritage? Can you name me one other nation that has known porn actors in their national ballet companies?

        1. Christopher in Canada 11 Jul 2013, 12:49pm

          Why can’t the two be compatible? It’s this heritage that condemns it, not reality nor common sense. Why should sex workers be seen as less than any other occupation?

          1. Is that an answer to my question? You brought up the British issue, kindly clarify in which way it’s different from others in this respect.

            Oh, and while you’re at it, could you please list the [non-British-influenced] cultures that readily accept known and filmed sex workers into their national arts companies: I’m ignorant enough to know of none, so look forward to being informed otherwise.

        2. Rudehamster 12 Jul 2013, 12:08am

          What is your problem with porn actors having other jobs?

          You come over as a blinkered prig with attitudes from a bygone era.

          1. I was taking issue with Christopher’s suggestion that this individual’s dismissal was due to “British” influence. Please read the comment and provide a relevant answer, if you can.

  28. First, he has no recourse because he signed the letter. He could have, and should have refused. Second, the school has the right to make its own policies, however, it should be forthright about those policies, and admit they dismissed him for his actions.

    1. The school did him a favor in offering him the option of signing that letter rather than just dismissing him. If they had simply dismissed him (which would have been for cause, as he knowingly broke the school’s rules) it could have affected his future ability to get another place at another school if he changed his mind about his career plans. In employment parlance, he was given a choice to resign or be fired. This happens all the time in the real world, where the former is generally preferable in terms of one’s future plans. Making a fuss about being “forced” to sign such a letter is ridiculous. Again, he knowingly broke the rules. The school quite rightfully could have dismissed him and instead offered him the option to go quietly. He has no real complaint, it’s just whining for publicity’s sake.

      1. what rules: the only mistake he made was not writing “signed under duress” before his signiture so he’d be able to prove he was pressured and didn’t want to sign it.

        1. Christopher in Canada 10 Jul 2013, 3:11pm

          Prostitution is in the process of being taken off the law books as we speak. It’s this British heritage about bawdy houses we are trying to crawl out from under. Think that’s bad? Look at being gay in Jamaica…

      2. At 22 years of age I don`t think he will be looking for a place in another school. At that age he should have already been under contract with a professional ballet company so he shouldn`t have signed it and let them fire him..
        He should just carry on training, surely he makes enough money with his “side job”, and go on an audition tour everywhere he can (Europe might be a good idea so he can start brand new). But in my opinion after watching a small video of him in a dance studio, it might not be as easy as one thinks there are thousands of guys much better dancers than he is…and younger.

  29. Well this article was a waste of time and effort. Who cares about a stupid little boy who lost his scholarship for breaking the conditions under which it was offered?

    1. Commander Thor 10 Jul 2013, 9:35am

      He didn’t break the conditions of his scholarship. If he did, they wouldn’t have had to bully him into signing a statement claiming he “voluntarily withdrew”.

      Next time, read the fcuking article before commenting.

      Misquotation alert: I don’t think this is news either, but the comment-first-think-later approach annoys me.

      1. yes he did break the conditions of his scholarship, the school hand book says “Please note that RWB School Professional Division students are not permitted to perform outside of the RWB School without permission from the RWB School Director. Any student wishing to participate in any additional dance program during RWB School breaks must also receive approval from the RWB School Director in advance. Requests for authorization must be submitted in writing.” What was he doing if not performing?

        1. by your own quote you admit that the handbook reffers to dance. He didn’t perform dance – he was in a porno not a strip joint.

          1. it refers to dance programs true, but the restriction on outside performances is general, not specific.

    2. Rudehamster 10 Jul 2013, 11:54pm

      Who cares? We ought to.
      Have you ever felt that you’ve been treated unfairly? Or made a mistake? Or been wrongly accused?
      Your comment makes you come over as a horrible bitch, with a life so perfect that you can the finger and sneer.
      Next time you cock it up, I hope you’re met with some miserable tosser making remarks just like yours.

      I bet you’ll be as hypocritical as to watch his films though.

  30. what you do in your own time is your own business, he used a psudonym onstage not his real name so whats the problem, plently of students do porn/striping/escorting to supliment their budget

  31. Spanner1960 10 Jul 2013, 1:21pm

    I don’t think this is a matter of being gay or not, but more the fact that this sort of history can give an established and renowned organisation a bad reputation.

    Nobody denies that porn is part of many people’s lives, but nevertheless, it has an image that people do not wish to associate themselves with,

    The bottom line is, if you want to work with big names or get your name in the spotlight, you have to stay squeaky clean or your history may come back and bite you in the arse.

    1. Paul Brownsey 10 Jul 2013, 5:34pm

      Well said. The organization may fear–not unreasonably–that it would get a reputation as a less-than-serious ballet school, and that could put off sponsors, grant-awarders and potential students.

    2. Yes well Spanner is the voice of conservatism as per usual.

      If a person is so thick that they can’t separate an individual’s personal life from their career then they’re plain stupid.

      Didn’t nude photographs of Madonna surface in Playboy in 1985 and it went on to help her career.

  32. Those people are hypo­crites. He didn‘t use the school name and even took a dif­fer­ent name for this job. So what… he did porn… that‘s his choice.
    I sup­port this kid 100%. What‘s next in line for dan­cers… hav­ing to ask per­mis­sion to date someone out­side the com­pany? Being told what to wear in the streets? My… this is tak­ing us back to ancient times when couples on stage also had to be couples off stage…and we all know how good that was and how many careers were wrecked because one would have an injury and the other would be taken off the cast list.

    If he had advert­ised him­self on that porn video as “Jeppe Hansen the bal­let boy from the Royal Win­nipeg Bal­let School” then yes it would have been a prob­lem (though it prob­ably would have attrac­ted a new audi­ence… or is that not good enough for them… people can‘t enjoy porn AND ballet?

    I sin­cerely hope he finds a com­pany who will accept him for who he is des­pite his choices.

    1. Paul Brownsey 10 Jul 2013, 5:36pm

      I don’t see how they are *hypocrites”. “Hypocrite” is not an all-purpose synonym for “bad person” or even for “dishonest person”.

      1. thanks for the English lesson

  33. JackAlison 10 Jul 2013, 4:21pm

    wow
    lookd at his vidz 2day
    very hot and the acting or lack of it is hilarious
    but he can sure move his ass in any direction> I dont know wot the problem is? Arent half the men in the corp de ballet usually gay? ……but oh that’s right were not allowd to talk about it. I do note that ballet companies go to great pains to promote “boy meets girl” straight romance live happliy ever after quite a bit in different companies. So i think he has a point… bit of homophobia i would say.

    1. you have a brain I presume? try using it.
      read the article.
      he was NOT dismissed from the school and scholarship program for “being gay”.

      the number of gay male dancers in a company has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on this particular situation.

      he was dismissed for taking time OUT from school to go film porn.

      if one of the female dancers had done the same, she’d be out on her arse also.

      1. Rudehamster 10 Jul 2013, 11:45pm

        …it’s ‘she’s also be out on her arse’. Having the ‘also’ at the end is a very bad habit the Americans have.
        Please don’t let it breed here.

        1. JackAlison 11 Jul 2013, 6:08am

          ohhhhh ouch Mikey ….lol
          i feel so hurt…..lol
          I must tug my no brain head furlock and defer to my ‘betters’ like u. NOT!!
          …..there are lots of gay male dancers…and having worked in the field 4 many years the pecking order is straight and the companies are usually at great pains to present a heterocentric picture to the public.THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE WAS RUDOLF NUREYEV WHO WAS HOUNDED TO PROFESS WHO HiS GF WAS….until 1 day Michael Parkinson cornered him.He was always billed with Margot Fontyn who was old enough to be his grandmother…but anything to keep the hetero normal myth alive
          I guess its called reading btw the lines or having honed instincts but someone like u doesnt dig toO deep AS ur too busy an assh+le.

        2. ‘she’s also be out on her arse? Muphry’s Law strikes again!

  34. ElbertDijkgraaf 11 Jul 2013, 2:14am

    Oh for crying out loud: wake up and smell the coffee! He’s placing himself in the role of the victim, but somehow forgets that the world of ballet is incredibly conservative, old fashioned and filled with tradition that dates back hundred years ago. What happens behind the curtains, stays behind the curtains. There are plenty of other examples of scandals in ballet companies and most of them having the same ending (quelle surprise: it’s not in favor of the dancer). Would Maria Callas have the same carreer, or be the same star if people knew that she was a porn actress/call girl/courtisane etc?

    Chris hits the nail with his comment that certain carreers, jobs and associations are having an image to uphold. It’s incredibly dumb of Jeppe Hansen to think he could get away with it. What happened to common sense?

    1. Rudehamster 12 Jul 2013, 12:20am

      A friend of mine lost his job as a Senior Nurse in London, after being photographed wearing fetish gear in a club.

      The photo was in the gay press, amongst hundreds of others, but some prissy-arsed woman took offence and had him hauled up for bringing the NHS into disrepute. He lost his job within a fortnight of the photo being printed, despite it being on his own time during his holiday and being unrecognisable (he was wearing a small mask).

      The decision was taken by a heterosexual, bible basher who hated homosexuality and, in particular, couldn’t abide gay nurses.

      It’s the bigotry of those in powerful positions within organisations that are the root problem of these ridiculous decisions. Get rid of the bigots and the religious, then we’ll all be in a better place.

  35. Anyone else feels this is all a one way conversation under the dictatorship of 2 or 3 specific people who don`t hesitate to report you if you think differently and somehow making it impossible for people to reply to them whenever they feel cornered? We are all entitled to our points of view and should respect others and try to understand them instead of sounding like vicious old queens trying to get the last word in.
    This was my first time on this site, only came here because someone sent me a link to this story as they thought it would interest me… those people need to get a life and stop playing the “little Hitler” role game.
    Greeting from Japan

    1. JackAlison 11 Jul 2013, 6:20am

      Hey Guy-Paul.
      Thx 4 ur comments
      yes there are some undesirables who treat this site as their personal blog with accompanying bile and poison if u dare to disagree.
      Everyones opinion is important
      there are however also homophobe nut jobs who have way to much time on their hands who also trawl this site
      I enjoyed what u said
      hope u continue to contribute
      Cheers
      Jack :)

      1. Thank you Jack for your kind supportive words.

        I have to admit I was kind of shocked to be personally attacked by those people on my first time here..
        Speaks very highly on how supportive gay people are of each other.
        I actually saw a thread about this issue on another website dedicated to ballet,opera and theater and comments were much kinder and respectful to one another.
        Makes you think… maybe the people who are actually directly concerned with this story (dancers, directors, teachers, choreographers…) are more understanding than everyday folks.

        What made me laugh is one of the trouble makers pretends on this page to be involved in ballet himself and on another thread he claims to have regular talks with Prince Harry…
        Made me smile…
        Anyway thanks again for your message
        Guy-Paul

        1. JackAlison 11 Jul 2013, 6:21pm

          LOL
          youll get lots of that here
          delusional with lotsa ‘airs and graces’
          but there are also some really good comments and the site itself is very informative
          anyway u take care
          and btw we’re kinda ‘neighbours’
          I live in Beijing
          cheers
          Jacks

    2. I have to disagree, one of the things that drew me to this site is because it’s full of LGBT people around the world who are free to discuss and debate. LGBTI are a direct mirror of diverse society; we are inevitibly going to bicker and squabble like everyone else.

      This site is an INVALUBLE tool. We need forums like this to talk about issues within the LGBTI community and work them out because we’ve been denied a place to talk for so long. Our “culture” simply hasn’t been allowed to develop. It’s been supressed and oppressed for centuries so we have totally been denied any kind of personal of communal development. The internet, and sites like this, play a huge role in social development. For the first time the whole world can talk about sexuality and gender without censorship! This is so important.

      I don’t have many gay friends, I don’t really go to gay bars, I don’t join gay clubs, where else am I going to learn? My school? Television?!?! HAH! Lot of good that did me, i’ll tell ya

  36. I don’t know that he should of done the porn. He’s no Nick Iacona, at least yet. In respect to drugs, I pray he never is.

    Regardless, he made some money like we all do selling his mind and body. Why, it’s not my call.

    It has and will always be part of his legacy. I think the straight community can deal with it.

    If he can dance, [I don’t know,] let him. Seems silly to me if he has the talent not to take advantage of it. Not like there are no Gay people in Winnipeg, I’ve been to Assiniboine Park.

    Seems a shame to lose talent.

  37. If the boy is half as good a dancer as he is a porn actor, we have just lost another Nijinsky.
    (If you subscribe to Naked Sword you can see his film Paint it Black on there.)
    Basically he’s a kid and like we all did at his age he did a mad wild thing. The tired old farts with withered hearts who chucked him out can’t even have tried to imagine what it is to cut someone’s career off at the roots for a youthful piece of folly. It’s the callousness of it that is so appalling.

    1. Don`t worry… Nijinsky is safe and still unique..LOL
      I haven`t seen his porn work so I won`t comment on it. as for his career being crushed, as far as I know from reading about all this, he is in NYC, there are hundreds or professional dance studios there, if he really wants to get back into his dancing shape, I`m sure he can. It`s been done before, I`m sure his porn filming schedule can allow him a few hours each day for ballet classes. when you really want something and you have some of the best teachers in the world at your doorstep… do something about it. Screw RWB put it behind you and get back in the game. prove them they were wrong.

      1. Rudehamster 12 Jul 2013, 12:23am

        I’d suggest you checked his porn work out.

        Take my work for it, Jeppe is a lovely guy. Honestly, he really didn’t need this crap. His porn work was done before he was offered the position with the RWB. They just didn’t like the retrospective association.

        1. sincerely although he`s kind of cute, he`s really not the kind I would watch doing porn. as for the dates, unfortunately for him, he did join the school before filming those…. if I recall what I read on other sites… joined the school September 2012, made the film in February 2013

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