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Lord Singh calls for equal marriage referendum in October

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  1. Did we have a referendum on the pillaging of the NHS? On the billions of pounds of the nation’s blood and bounty wasted on wars? Things that affect every man, woman and child in the UK?

    No.

    So why have a referendum on a subject where the majority have NO skin in the game and no appreciable consequence is not to display thinly veiled bloody bigotry.

    Do these fools really think that we don’t see right through them? How sad it must be for them that they can’t do what their behaviour infers – that they just want to scream “we hate homos and they can’t have it.”

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Jul 2013, 1:58pm

      One sick sikh in my view!

      1. nixiotemba 5 Jul 2013, 2:56pm

        maybe a referendum about allowing people to be sick

  2. I have a better idea. How about a referendum on us having an upper chamber which is entirely unelected, hold their seats for life, many inherited through (institutionally sexist) rules while others have them gifted because of their religion, and has them able to claim a tax-free allowance of up to £300 per sitting day.

    And they have the audacity to expect people to address them as “Lord”.

  3. This singh creep needs to stop his hatred of minority groups and his persecution amendments. He’s like a colonialist trying to inflict his will on others.

  4. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Jul 2013, 1:56pm

    Did we have a referendum to ban the wearing of turbans in public or worse, in Parliament? Stupid loon!

    This cretin is a walking zombie. Just listen to him speak. I cringe.

    If anything makes disestablishment of the state cult and abolition of the Lords more relevant, it’s this Bill. I’m sick and tired of their persistent traducing of it, our rights and our lives because of their imaginary sky pixies. The entire upper chamber is anachronistic and totally undemocratic. In my view, it’s mob rule, unelected bigots who already have their equality at birth. This must end.

    1. Good point – I might email him through LobbyaLord and ask if he would advise a referendum on the wearing of Sikh turbans in place of helmets in the police, and so forth – not to mention being allowed to carry a kirpan at all times.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Jul 2013, 3:50pm

        Do it, Rehan. He needs to be reminded that discrimination can be a two-way street, give him a dose of his own medicine and should be very careful what he wishes for.

  5. bobbleobble 5 Jul 2013, 2:03pm

    I propose a referendum on whether Sikhs should be allowed to sit in the House of Lords. I suspect Lord Singh wouldn’t be too keen on that idea though but what’s sauce for the goose…

    Putting the rights of minorities to a vote of everyone is a very dangerous precedent to set and as a member of a minority group himself Lord Singh should recognise that but he’s too blinded by his homophobia to recognise the damage he’s doing.

  6. I suspect that this would be thrown out of the house, as it should be.

    Given that it has got this far, with such high majorities I don’t see how they could possibly put it to a referendum.

    Secondly, if they did, then can we also propose the these two items to be included in a referendum at the same time:
    1. Ban divorce for all
    2. Disband the House of Lords

    1. 3 Ban marriages from Sikh temples

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Jul 2013, 3:52pm

      3. Disestablish the state cult, no public funding of them or their schools.

  7. If anyone is at home sitting in the sunshine and you fancy a laugh, tune into Parliament live and watch the bigots in the Commons, lead by Peter Bone, try and get their bill to rename the august bank holiday Margaret Thatcher day through second reading this afternoon. Should be a hoot. This is defo one bill that is going to be wrecked. Regardless of whether you were pro or anti the late Baroness – her supporters seem to have a deficiency in mathematics and a failure to grasp they do not have a majority in either the commons or the lords. I feel Lord Singh, Lord Dear and Baroness Williams also suffer from the same deficiency in numerical calculus when it comes to how the Lords will vote on SSM!

  8. If anyone is at home sitting in the sunshine and you fancy a laugh, tune into Parliament live and watch the bigots in the Commons, lead by Peter Bone, try and get their bill to rename the august bank holiday Margaret Thatcher day through second reading this afternoon. Should be a hoot. This is defo one bill that is going to be wrecked. Regardless of whether you were pro or anti the late Baroness – her supporters seem to have a deficiency in mathematics and a failure to grasp they do not have a majority in either the commons or the lords. I feel Lord Singh, Lord Dear and Baroness Williams also suffer from the same deficiency in numerical calculus when it comes to how the Lords will vote on SSM!

  9. St Sebastian 5 Jul 2013, 2:20pm

    Rubbish Lord Singh, this is a human rights issue and not an issue that should be politicised or allowed to be the subject of a populist vote (do you think they would have been able to ban slavery if subject to a plebiscite?).

    How would you like us to hold a referendum on whether Sikhs should wear turbans (or whatever else their religion insists they do)? I bet not, and neither would I advocate such a referendum on Sikh turban wearing. It would be unfair, unnecessarily inflame, antagonise and polarise public attitudes to the minority that are the turban wearing Sikhs – all for no real reason or benefit.

    So get real, focus and stop prevaricating on the inevitable road and fair progress of this Equal Marriage Bill through the HoL.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Jul 2013, 4:09pm

      http://www.LobbyALord.org and let him know we support a referendum on sikh’s who should be banned from wearing turbans outside their homes and in Parliament because it offends our beliefs.

  10. GulliverUK 5 Jul 2013, 2:35pm

    Fine, no problem.

    Amend to read Referendum on Same-Sex Marriage and the Abolition of The House of Lords.

    I’m confidence both measures will be passed overwhelmingly.

    This has zero chance of being accepted, but I suppose you can’t blame a bigot for trying. Hey!!! New web site idea – Blame-A-Bigot.com – where we get to blame anything at all that goes wrong in the world on bigots, seems only fair :-p I blame Global Warming on Lord Singh, for all the hot air he produces :)

  11. How many times are they going to bring it in ? it was suggested at the third reading or when ever! and it was agreed for it to be removed so why bring it up again??!

  12. Jock S. Trap 5 Jul 2013, 3:23pm

    So many wrecking bills from so many unelected Lords.

    Fact David Cameron was elected along with the Lib Dems both being the Only parties to say they would look into Marriage Equality.

    Therefore the electorate has already voted, had it’s say but voting for the coalition.

    I suggest Lord Singh and the rest stop wasting time on a bill that has the majority support from both the Public AND the House of Commons… the elected side.

  13. There are people who would have supported a referendum on immigration from the sub continent and some who still would given the chance. Wrong of course as referenda on equality would be ethically wrong and stop progress in it’s tracks.

  14. A question for Lord Singh. If you had been a politician in the USA’s upper house some 60 years ago, would you have demanded a public referendum before civil rights for non-white citizens of the US were introduced? Chances are this would have resulted in a No – keep the status quo vote. Would you have been happy to support such a measure denying equality for all?

  15. George Broadhead 5 Jul 2013, 3:57pm

    It seems that the Sikhs are as homophobic as the rest of them.

    1. Many appear to be, yes. It’s impossible to make a sweeping judgment of all Sikhs, just as it is with any other very large group of people.

      1. Beelzeebub 5 Jul 2013, 10:23pm

        Who cares. Sikh, Jew, Muslim, Christian.

        They are all as nuts as each other in their stupid simplistic beliefs.

        It frightens me that anyone in a position of power is so stupid that they
        believe any of the drivel these cults espouse and then use their ignorance and
        stupidity to formulate laws that governs everyone whether they believe that drivel
        or not.

        It is patently clear that they only follow “insert religious cult here ” as it was their parents
        enforced cult from their parents in less enlightened and educated times.

        Their inability to extrapolate that simple logic makes them dangerous deluded brainwashed idiots and not fit
        to hold positions of power.

        1. Tolerance my friend, tolerance: you can’t be more suspicious of the platitudes of organised religion than I am, but it can’t be denied that there are some good people out there who, baffling though it may be to us, believe in such nonsense. It’s best to focus on the good, don’t you think? In addition, I’m violently opposed to making sweeping generalisations about gay people (or any other minority, come to that) so I think it’s only fair to extend that courtesy to other groups.

  16. Phyllis Baker 5 Jul 2013, 4:13pm

    Why do we need a referendum on this issue? We’ll be having referenda on everything next. This is why we ave an ELECTED government, who HAVE voted to allow same sex marriage. We don’t need a second house or teir approval. Perhaps we should ave a referendum on that!

  17. samej82000@yahoo.com 5 Jul 2013, 5:18pm

    Can someone provide a list of these anti-gay lords, so people can not vote for them the next time?

    Oops, forgot, nobody votes for them.

  18. Wow! I don’t remember being asked about such things as Poll Tax, Screwing the NHS, education, MPs salary’s and so forth. But they want to ask everyone and my mother about, what is, my personal life!!!

  19. This is clearly a wrecking amendment and as such dishonest because Singh has no intention of supporting the Bill event if his amendment is passed. As an utterer of pious platitudes on Thought For The Day on BBC Radio 4 he claims the moral high ground – telling the rest of us how to lead our lives. I for one will be writing to the BBC saying I am hugely disappointed that he is taking a prejudiced and homophobic line in the Lords and I do not wish to hear him on Thought For the Day in future. If enough of us do it they will not use him any more.

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