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  1. A nonsense hyperbole with no foundation. More commonly known as “a lie”. Funny, isn’t it, how christians are cherry-picking hypocrites who defy their own bloody dogma…

    I long for the end of the would-be tyranny of this phoney middle eastern death cult, which spread through blood and conquest, and which was developed to this state in this country because some bloody king couldn’t get away with killing any more women.

    1. It’s not well known but the IOM is a rats nest of Christian fundamentalists of various descriptions. These four are well known nutcases. Murcott is the death cults rent-a-gob who has been described previously as the Stephen Green of the IOM. They have done themselves no favours with this crackpot stunt most people are not impressed or amused to have the IOM in the spotlight for this kind of bigotry.

    2. And presumably they live in the Isle of Man so they don’t have to pay tax? So who cares what they think as they contribute nothing.

  2. Commander Thor 3 Jul 2013, 5:16pm

    Timothy 2:11-12

    Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

    1. Commander Thor 3 Jul 2013, 5:18pm

      Misquotation alert: while the original author of the above words was dead serious, this poster (Commander Thor) does not take the message seriously, any more than he takes the tooth fairy seriously. Please do not accuse me of being misogynist.

    2. Which led on the the popular Victorian sentiment,
      “She is not entitled to an opinion until she is married and then her husband will tell her what her opinions are”

  3. ‘since the dawn of creation’ – what Six thousand years ago? – One Lie after another – do these backward morons really believe the earth is only that old –

    Christian my ass – vile repugnant human beings with more hatred than heart!

  4. GulliverUK 3 Jul 2013, 5:29pm

    4 dropkicks write to Queen – I quaking in my boots. :)

    And yes, Isle of Man will get equal marriage, although because you are a part of the UK which lives in the past, it will take another 5-10 years.

    ps. God is a man-made illusion, sorry, but the truth hurts. It’s all bullsh1t. I’ve done quite a bit of research in this area, waaaaay more than most Christians ever do, and I can confirm there is no god, no nothing, no afterlife, no Hell or Heaven, just the hear and now, and the dropkicks are wasting their time praying to … thin air.

    Another 30 years and these anti-gay complainers will be dead and buried, along with their stupid religious beliefs.

    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 3 Jul 2013, 7:19pm

      Beautiful, GulliverUK-Just beautiful !

    2. Sacre bleu 4 Jul 2013, 6:44am

      As usual, well said GulliverUK, but I beg to differ on one word.

      ‘God is a man-made illusion”, should read ‘God is a man-made delusion’.

      I hope you don’t mind my correction. :-)

  5. what a lot of tosh by some men who haven’t the first clue about love

  6. 4 people living in a self-governing territory are complaining about a nation of almost 60 million people that exists outside of the jurisdiction of their own government. Complaining as though all 60 million or so people living here should all live and die according to the beliefs of just four people.
    It takes a special kind of stupid to believe such a request will even be seen by the Queen, let alone accepted by her.

  7. Oh for goodness sake. Who cares that Mrs Windsor swore in 1952 to uphold the laws of ‘god’.

    True she is the unelected head of state and the leader of the state cult, but hopefully Britain will have separation of church and state sooner rather than later.

  8. Democracy?

  9. Well her rep, the Governor General must have signed in her name in New Zealand a couple of weeks ago – and in Canada several years ago – so why would she refuse for England and Wales? She will have to do the same for Scotland soon, too.

    1. GulliverUK 3 Jul 2013, 6:13pm

      Excellent point.

      The sooner we get rid of the monarchy, expel the Church of England (disestablishment) and rip out all the stupid and crazy leftover remnants of religious from our laws the better.

      Religion is a “personal choice”, and imposing it on someone else, or even evangelizing like they do, should be outlawed. It’s the source of most of the conflicts across the planet at the moment, one way or another.

      They need to keep it in their churches, to themselves, don’t bother anyone else with it, and certainly don’t come in the public square spouting that nonsense. We allowed them the freedom to follow this fcuked up crazy stuff, now will they kindly do it out-of-sight, somewhere else, far, far away from me. If I never hear the word Christianity again it will be too soon.

      As you can see …. I’m getting very close to the last straw where religion is concerned :D

  10. I bet you Her Majesty does not even read the bills. Either way, she shall sign it into law.

  11. Robert in S. Kensington 3 Jul 2013, 6:15pm

    I guess all the praying away the gay and the marriage bill haven’t worked for them. One last desperate attempt. Delusional loons actually believe the Queen signs the bills, she doesn’t. An assent isn’t necessarily a signature.

  12. 1. Stupid numpties – The Queen doesn’t actually sign legislation into law, an official automatically does it on her behalf.

    2. IF she was so moved as to refuse Royal Assent she would create an unholy political stink – no monarch in centuries has refused to sign legislation passed by both Houses of Parliament.

    These guys are sad deluded fools!!!

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 3 Jul 2013, 6:43pm

      Those same numpties don’t know English history either. Under the Bill of Rights of 1689, the monarch isn’t allowed to override Acts of Parliament which would include refusing to give assent.

      1. Robert, whilst your correct in that the monarch isn’t allowed to overide acts of parliament as stated in the Bill of Rights in 1689. Royal Ascent, remains as one of the powers of monarchy unchanged by the Bill of Rights.

        The Scottish Militia Bill 1708 is noteworthy as the last bill to be refused Royal Assent by Queen Anne. Although this veto power remains with the Monarch, it has not been exercised since.

        1. Dan Filson 4 Jul 2013, 1:05am

          Royal Ascent? Climbing out of reach of the rest of us?

          1. Well caught! no matter how careful one tries to be it happens.

  13. Helge Vladimir Tiller 3 Jul 2013, 6:47pm

    I haven’t been laughing much today- but finally I got the chance. Thank you !

  14. Helge Vladimir Tiller 3 Jul 2013, 6:52pm

    Hopefully my loud laughter can be heard even on The Isle of Man- –from Norway !

  15. lukefromcanada 3 Jul 2013, 7:01pm

    to say that it would be catastrophic but not saying what would happen turns the whole letter into one big dramatic example of hyperbole. Of course even if they had they still would have been guilty of the same Bunch of Drama queens

    1. The Queen has never vetoed any bill permitting divorce or abortion, both of which directly violate Christian “law”. So why does anyone think she’ll deny the Royal Assent to the Same Sex Marriage Bill?

      These people are living in cloud cuckoo land. Maybe they’ve watched one too many episodes of the White Queen and think the monarch still has power of life and death over her “subjects”.

      A modern day Windsor can’t act like a medieval Plantagenet. Although in saying that, I sure wish she could. If only in the costume department. Maybe Angela Kelly should take inspiration from Duchess Cecily’s hat rack and give us a queen with half a ton of velvet and cloth of gold on her head. Autocracy might come back into fashion then. But as long as Royal headgear is limited to the lightweight candyfloss creations currently favoured by females of the House of Windsor, I think democracy is safe for the time being.

  16. “It continues: “If enacted, the effects of this measure upon the nation will be nothing short of catastrophic; but of even greater importance is that it will set the nation on a direct collision course with the Courts of Heaven, with all the attendant consequences.””

    That pronouncement’s got a kind of Taliban ring of lunacy about it.

    1. GulliverUK 3 Jul 2013, 9:30pm

      And she’ll probably say …. “damned religious wingnuts!”

      I bet she’s an atheist ! :D

  17. Similar arguments were made prior to the Netherlands passing marriage equality over 12 years ago. The sky didn’t fall and life went on. (crickets chirping?). These fundie wanker twits just don’t get it. Loopy people never do.

    Religion is the last refuse for a man with no argument.

    The only un-winnable argument is an argument with a moron.

  18. GingerlyColors 3 Jul 2013, 8:39pm

    Can the Queen refuse to give a bill Royal assent? A common urban myth is that Queen Victoria refused to give assent to a proposal to criminalize Lesbianism when laws against homosexuality were being introduced in 1869 and 1885 and it is because of this that Lesbianism has never been illegal in the UK and many of the former British colonies which even now still outlaw male homosexuality but not Lesbianism.

  19. I would certainly be interested to see if she sends a response and indeed the what contents.

    These 4 are seriously deluded too.

  20. allwaysniceman 4 Jul 2013, 1:55am

    Its logical: how can the “Defender of Faith” sign an law, against whom are all but three faiths here in the UK ?

  21. I have already written to the Home Secretary who is the legal advisor to the Queen on the bill and also to the Queen.
    The Home Secretary passed it to another dept which evaded the question – what is the Kweens prerogative on the matter?? Buck palace is yet to respond!

    It is important as the Church is refusing to perform Christian Marital rites for LGBTs and they are hiding behind the fact that they cant go against the Royal Prerogative which is assumed is a NO. The Truth of the matter tho is that if the Queen does give a Royal Assent to it then the Church would be in contempt of breaking that Royal Prerogative!! But we need to know what ER in doors thinks, it is NOT a matter of seperation of duties as both of the roles are Her Duty as sworn at Cornonation and as it has always been , law maker(assent giver) and head of Church.

  22. St Sebastian 4 Jul 2013, 6:58am

    Note to all PN readers re: Peter Murcott, Ian Davidson, Christopher James Keig and Michael Justice.

    Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

  23. St Sebastian 4 Jul 2013, 7:03am

    The four allegedly Christian haters should remember that “Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.”

    Christianity is primarily about love, not hate.

  24. St Sebastian 4 Jul 2013, 7:06am

    Peter Murcott, Ian Davidson, Christopher James Keig and Michael Justice are like Slinkies … not really good for anything, but you can’t help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.

  25. Jock S. Trap 4 Jul 2013, 9:33am

    These people just can’t stop themselves, can they?

    They’re so bitter it must be a complete struggle to live any kind of life.

    They know the Queen remains impartial (she could actually teach the BBC a thing or two!) and does the will of Her Elected Parliament and the will of her subjects.

    The marriage Bill wouldn’t even be considered unless it had merit and was supported by the majority. Why do these people get so angry, so bitter when they loose control.

    I being like this is what religion is about then leave me out of it!

  26. Royal Assent is a mere formality anyway. The Lords Commissioners sign Bills with the Great Seal, but in HM The Queen’s name during the Prorogation Ceremony at the end of each Parliamentary year, so these people are ignorant as well as silly

  27. The hatred,bigotry and dogmatism of the pro-homosexual section of our society is way beyond that of any other section of society. You only have to read posts on here to prove that.

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