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US: Iowa Governor: My state will ‘live with’ the Supreme Court ruling on DOMA

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  1. GulliverUK 1 Jul 2013, 6:52pm

    The US really does seem to have a cock-eyed legal system. If, despite the Supreme Court ruling they could have a referendum and then ban the existing equal marriage provisions, that provides an environment of total instability – gay couples married one day, and depending upon how much the Catholic church or Mormons throw at it, forcing a referendum and removing it at some later date. How can people live and plan their lives, and feel free with that system.

    That’s why it really needed to be a ruling striking down all those constitutional bans, then forcing all states to allow equal marriage, and recognise all marriages from all other states. Nobody should be able to take away equal rights, ever.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Jul 2013, 8:00pm

      That’s why we should be thankful we live in the UK, faults and all. Ours is a much fairer system in spite of the opposition.

      This man has no backbone. Hinting at a referendum is a typical republican way to placate the right wing religious loons and other homophobes and a way to get re-elected. How would he like a referendum too overturn tax exempt status of religious cults? He’d be the first to veto it.

      The Supreme Court didn’t go far enough by striking down part 2 of the act which would have legalized equal marriage in all states and would have made referenda meaningless. What an awful system. The U.S. will never have marriage equality in all states for decades to come because of this decision last week.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Jul 2013, 8:01pm

        …by not striking down part 2 I meant.

    2. Jacob Dugan-Brause 1 Jul 2013, 9:49pm

      Ah, there are things here that are just as strange. Politics is a many wondrous thing and as someone who has now lived in both systems, I can attest to pros and cons in each — and to admit that gets me no friends in the USA. I imagine it won’t here in this forum, either.

      Oh well. As to the court and section 2, that was the huge win for conservatives in the US. It was this court further expanding state standing in the federal system, to the exclusion of unitary law. It was a thread running in the Shelby decision as well re state voting protections of minority interests.

      To see a British parallel, look to the efforts to rewrite national sovereignty status in the EU. It tracks states’ sovereignty issues in the US fairly well.

    3. the idiot from iowa ignored the fact that it was ruled you can’t take marriage rights away after people already have them. he’s a typical bigot religious moronic republican.

  2. Gov. Bransted’s opinion on the DOMA decision is irrelevant — that only deals with federal benefits for married couples. It has no effect on state laws.

    Since polls are showing that most Iowans favor the existing marriage law, and are pretty sick of the whole thing anyway, he shouldn’t rush to get a referendum on the ballot — he’s likely to get a nasty surprise.

  3. Education. In schools and at home; make up for the centuries of repressed sexuality already, lawd. It all comes down to nobody having a proper education on the subject because nobody has taken responsibility. Ignorane and prejudice spread like disease, and it seems it’s only through casual persuasion/fierce debate over the last 40 years or so that we’ve even got this far, really. Once the schools and parents start teaching the kids the facts and reality will we start to see real change, but that won’t happen till the old prudes in charge retire… everywhere!

    1. GulliverUK 2 Jul 2013, 9:21am

      We’re already seeing the change in young people, Catholics, Evangelicals, and the majority of young people, are very strongly for equality and fairness. People are leaving the Catholic church over these issues (I was just reading an article about this an hour ago), and some Evangelical colleges are allowing LGBT groups and Gay-Straight Alliances. And the opponents of equality are sounding more shrill and warped day after day – two Pastors just said the wildfires in Colorado were caused by abortion, gay unions and Christian women wearing pant-suits !!! The fringe fundamentalist religious right have a loud voice, but the truth is that a majority of Catholics here and in the US support full equality. You can only keep denying the wishes of your followers for so long, and there is also an obligation on Catholics and Anglicans, and others, who don’t agree with their leaders to have the courage to say so, to ensure fairness and equality for all.

      Totally agree, education, is key.

  4. A referendum would be illegitimate, and struck down in the courts – this is an equal protection issue, and a majority cannot vote away a minority’s civil rights.

  5. interesting how ignores the prop 8 case which held that taking away a right people already have is unconstitutional. in CA it was 4 months. in his state it’s 4 years. typical republican bigot and moron.

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