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Alice Arnold: Pride is important because it shows that LGBT people are ‘confident to be who we are’

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  2. I’ve had enough of this: so the theme is love and marriage.

    Hello? I thought that the whole marriage thing was to make gay people just like the straights. OK, fair enough, if that’s the case.

    But, sorry, can’t have it both ways: can’t have big parties to show how ‘different’ gay people are anymore.

    You’re either part of boring old ‘straight’ society or you’re not.

    Once ssm is allowed, I fully expect this Pride movement to stop.

    1. Midnighter 26 Jun 2013, 9:22am

      Your first dilemma is easily solved thus; you misunderstand the point of “the whole marriage thing”.

      While it is hoped that it will have a positive contribution to the overall cause of equality, it would not be reasonable to predict equality in on this specific matter (marriage) would automatically and instantly result in equality in all other regards.

      Your second statement is fallacious. People can have parties for any reason they please. Removal of all inequalities in law or treatment by society would not constitute a cause to stop partying; n the contrary it would be great excuse for celebration.

      Your third statement is simply silly because it is not accurate to describe society as straight, any more than it would be to describe it as “White”, “Christian”, “Conservative” or any other single facet of its compound nature.

    2. Jock S. Trap 26 Jun 2013, 11:44am

      It isn’t about difference it’s about acceptence.

      It’s ok for heterosexuals they’ve had all the rights but Gay people are still discriminated against, still fighting.

      You state “Once ssm is allowed, I fully expect this Pride movement to stop” but as far as I know straight people are being killed, injured for being straight. Sadly many in the LGBT community are and that’s why we celebrate ourselves out and proud.

      Many straight people also enjoy Pride so as it’s attracts all then I don’t see a problem with it continuing.

      It’s a festival, it’s fun and I for one will always enjoy a good festival.
      You can sulk in misery if you wish but don’t stop others enjoying themselves.

  3. Colin (London) 26 Jun 2013, 8:54am

    To me Pride Parade and party is very important.

    My first Pride march in 1994 showed me I was not alone. This year I will be taking my 18 year old niece on her first Pride march as a young gay woman.

    Many gay people feel isolated even today. I recently stood outside Parliament with my big pink flag. The first time in my life at 52 and it felt wonderful. It’s about confidence, family, equality, visibility, honesty, feeling part of society. I want an inclusive society going forward. To me Pride sends a message that society can change, public opinion can change. Each person is valued and important and sends a beacon to others that if gay people can fight for equality so can they.

    I will have a tear in my eye on Saturday as I did the first time I walked with my brothers and sisters in 1994.

    Many are dead just because they were gay and nothing else. Look at the recent killings in Russia, Africa, Middle East and recently USA, France and the UK.

  4. But sadly the message of pride and the power and voice it can give to gay rights is overshadowed by the loud, camp, or outrageous minority who give it a bad name by living up to the stereotypes and negative ‘image’ of gay lifestyles that people dislike so much.

    A few years ago my local pride event was criticised because families were having to explain to their children why men were walking around with with their buttocks exposed (leather backless trousers, dog collars on etc). There was a stall selling sex toys, some extreme stuff to which rises a few eye brows and guys walking around in tiny speedo’s blowing whistles and getting wasted. This was near the town centre in a popular and busy area.

    What message does that give out about the gay community really. I’m not ashamed of being gay but I am fed up of having to explain to people that I’m not really any different even though members of my own community seem hell bent on highlighting the differences as loudly as they can.

    1. This isn’t any different really to any stag or hen do that straight people hold regularly & often begin during the day in any city in the UK.

      The gay community is as diverse as any other & there are all kinds of people within it including the ‘stereotypes’ that you speak of. I see nothing wrong with camp flamoyance or butch lesbians or stalls selling sex toys because that is my community & I am proud of all of us for being who were are & not conforming to other’s expectations. I myself am not obviously lesbian but that is who I am (I tried being a bit butch – no chance, I’m far too girly). But I will never compensate for my brothers & sisters because we are all fabulous (& this is what I will be teaching my own child too).

  5. This will be my first gay pride :-)
    I’m rather excited :)

    1. Colin (London) 28 Jun 2013, 9:54am

      Alex F.
      I so remember my first Pride march and have a big smile on my face as i remember it.

      I wish you a FABULOUS day, lots of fun and to feel you are part of a bigger family. You are not alone. Enjoy mate…Best Wishes

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