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Government: Marriage to be recognised in the tax system for gay and straight couples

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 25 Jun 2013, 4:32pm

    I’m sick and tired of hearing the Marriage Bill not being in the manifesto. The NHS reforms weren’t either and not one complaint about that, but Equal Marriage was in the Contract for Equalities released alongside the manifesto on the same day so the opposition really can’t say it wasn’t public knowledge.

  2. bobbleobble 25 Jun 2013, 4:40pm

    Since when was Conor Burns a strong supporter of equal marriage? Just last October he was arguing against it and although he voted in favour at the second reading he had to be guilted into doing so and he absented himself from the third reading. Hardly unequivocal support.

  3. That There Other David 25 Jun 2013, 4:57pm

    Yeah, just what we need. More special cases, exemptions and bonuses you need to annually apply for in our tax system.

    If we’re talking about manifesto commitments I distinctly remember both the Lib Dems and the Tories promising to simplify the tax code before the 2010 election. Where is the evidence of that occurring eh?

  4. Peter & Michael 25 Jun 2013, 5:28pm

    And so we should be, it is a pity that pension rights will only accrue, in our case from 2005, an amendment from Lord Alli was lost in the House of Lords debate which would have given us pension rights from the start of our relationship 36 years ago. With a partner suffering from cancer, and losing his job, because of hospital visits etc, one has been left to financially support him, for the past three years.

    1. Mihangel apYrs 25 Jun 2013, 6:24pm

      wishing you both the best…

      The pension issue will end up in ECHR unless they do something; various cases have established precedent.

  5. What’s thins about “heterosexual and same-sex marriages”? Isn’t the whole point of the current legislation before parliament that we will have simply “marriage”.

    With all this effort to get semantic marriage equality, it seems bizarre that PN of all organisations would start to separate out the concepts.

    1. Tim Chapman 25 Jun 2013, 6:01pm

      When same-sex marriage and heterosexual marriage are equal, I’ll call them both marriage. But that’s not the proposal. The bill perpetuates pension discrimination to the disadvantage of couples in a same-sex marriage, and whilst that persists, there is no equality. So PN is right to make the distinction.

  6. “a commitment is a commitment whether it’s between ‘a man and a woman, a women and a women, or a man and a man’”

    What if it’s between people who don’t identify as either female or male? Does it inexplicably stop being a commitment then, Minister?

  7. gulliveruk 25 Jun 2013, 8:43pm

    This come from Evangelical Christians, more specifically from the Centre for Social Justice, a right-wing think-tank and policy unit which is deeply embedded in the Tory party, and heavily Christian influenced. Former wing nuts include Philippa “I cure gay people” Stroud, who could get elected so IDS make her his right-hand-man in the DWP. It’s time to pay the Evangelicals back.

    Whole thing is a massive con, won’t help 99% of gay ppl and only a few straights. See New Statesman article.

    1. gulliveruk 25 Jun 2013, 8:45pm


      “Could not get elected.”. …. Tablet hell !

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