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Liberty: Pensions inequality remains in marriage bill

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  1. Writes the woman who colluded with the Leveson enquiry to muzzle the press and potentially endanger the very existence of news sites like Pink News.

    In light of recent revelations about the NSA/GCHQ spying scandals and the Stephen Lawrence family smear campaign sponsored by our wonderful police force, the world is now waking up why we need a free press:- to hold the morally corrupt who hold sway in most seats of power today to account.

    Who’s side are you really on, Mrs. Chakrapatti?

    1. That’s right, red arrow away if you find truth too inconvenient or painful to contemplate.

  2. Robert in S. Kensington 24 Jun 2013, 1:14pm

    I agree, Ms. Chakrabarti but this should not be an issue to hold up progress in getting this Bill passed first and foremost. There isn’t one equal marriage bill in 14 countries where there isn’t at least one anomaly or more. Let’s address this imbalance after the Bill is on statute please.

    1. Why? Being in the House of Lords, it’s in the perfect stage to get an amendment dealing with this problem. I don’t even see how it could hold up the progress, given that amendments being debated is what’s already happening. It’s certainly a more constructive amendment to add to the debate than the “let’s call them unions instead of marriages” amendment was.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 24 Jun 2013, 2:54pm

        There are other amendments such as CPs for heteros that were proposed by the disingenuous opposition during the third reading in the Commons, all done to derail the Bill. That has now been addressed by the manuscript Bill which will be up for review in the autumn. There’s no reason why the pension imbalance can’t be handled the same way. The intention of the Bill in its current form is to allow us access to marriage, nothing more. This Bill can’t be everything to everyone, least of all the opposition. No Bill is perfect. Improvements to a Bill in the Lords aren’t always what they’re cracked up to be. Since none of these amendments were carried in the Commons, to do so now would indeed delay and hinder any further progress which is what some of them are attempting which would mean this would not be on statute in the current session, more time for the opposition to try a few more wrecking amendments, their ultimate goal.

  3. This is the ONE thing preventing proper marriage equality? I agree it’s an important one, but talk about throwing trans people under the bus! What about trans people being required to have their married partner’s consent to transition, in case it leaves the precious partner in a gay marriage? What about the requirement to have fiancĂ©’s be informed (and have legal witnesses to the fact) that a person, even with a GRB, is trans, at pain of annulment, because ewww trans people?

    Gay Inc. cares about none but their own. I agree this pension issue is important. but other issues are as important.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 24 Jun 2013, 3:55pm

      I agree, Gabrielle. Since this isn’t going to happen with the current Bill, I see no reason why we can’t all start to petition our MPs for additional changes after its passage, same as for pensions.

  4. GulliverUK 24 Jun 2013, 4:28pm

    The fist thing to do without waiting for this wadte-of-space government is to identify each and every provider and which ones discriminate – then organise a boycott. The regulaor should be able to provide a list, we could then use a system to split it into chunks and get hundreds of ppl each making a few calls.

    And if our boycott causes some to fold and the government has to bail then out – tough s**t.

  5. Only one inequality, Shami? Did you somehow gloss over, for example, the spousal veto?

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