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  1. Demented freaks didn’t feel like we needed a referendum on the pillaging of the NHS – something that actually affects everyone man, woman and child in the UK – but does want to give the mouth-breathing hatemongers a chance to exercise direct democracy?

    How about no. And he goes away and reads up on the concept of “tyranny of the masses” – the very reason we do NOT have direct bloody democracy.

    Simple-minded fool of a man.

    1. Metsän poika 25 Jun 2013, 11:50am

      Yes, he s a backbencher with Attention Relevance Disorder.

  2. They are just like the loony left. Never happier than when trying to lose their own party the next election.

    1. “The loony left”

      Is this the Mail Online? Dear Christ.

      1. The loony left did(or do) exist. (Maybe I should have put the term in quotes too if that makes you happy) And were never happier than when losing labour an election or a majority. They happily kept labour out of power for a generation which amongst other things saw clause 28. The tories never got a majority vote just a majority in parliament.

        I don’t see where christ comes in to it.

        Where I would disagree with the Mail is that we have always had a loony right too, and this article is proof of that.

        1. I don’t know why you’ve had so many thumbs-downs, twitless (though the thumbs-ups seem to be pulling them down now).You are simply stating reality, or at least part of it. I knew some apocalyptic Marxist fantasists in the 80s (I was briefly one of them) who really believed that Labour would win by recreating itself in their image. This is not to say that I ever approved of New Labour’s rolling over to laisser-faire corporate capitalism. We desperately need a mainline party espousing social democratic values now. Where the hell is it going to come from?

        2. I predict the loony left commenters on here will be conveniently offended again, and make some clichéd response about these boards been taken over by daily mail readers, oh they already have, lol.

  3. Since they have made their list include others things that right-wing nutters want besides blocking equal marriage, e.g. bringing back the death penalty, and banning the wearing of burkas in public, it doesn’t look too serious…. and to rename a public holiday after Margaret Thatcher when we don’t even have one for Churchill, is the frosting on the fruit-cake. I doubt Cameron is going to lose any sleep – let them defect to Nigel Farrago, though will he really want malcontents. Be interesting to see which MP signs it.

    1. Christopher Hobe Morrison 22 Jun 2013, 7:34pm

      I don’t know how they left out flogging and hunting with dogs. Maybe they are selling out to the lefties?

      1. Please, Chris, don’t raise the issue of flogging. New Zealand raving rightists can’t shut up about corporal punishment since we banned the parental ‘right’ to hit kids. It gets the fundies strangely excited to redden rearends for righteousness, for some strange sado-maso-Christianic reason…

  4. Their marriage referendum bill is laughable and ludicrous.
    It would be starting the parliamentary process at the time the actual marriage bill is finishing it, meaning that in the time between the current bill passing and the results of the proposed referendum, gay couples in this country would be both able and unable to legally get married.

    The Margaret Thatcher day bill is on an equally retarded level. If these people want to collectively fan-wank over the witch (with an upper case B), then they can do it behind closed doors, not for the whole world to see.
    Same goes for the Kill Clegg bill. Just because they dislike the current DPM doesn’t mean they have to drive a train full of ‘f**k you’ through this country’s Parliamentary democratic system.

    I’m sure the other 39 bills (38 if you discount the repeated ‘leave the EU’ rubbish) are full of just as much brain meltingly retarded nonsense as those three.

  5. Midnighter 22 Jun 2013, 5:22pm

    A day celebrating the death of Maggie seems something I could get behind.

    Sure, ban burkhas. Also hoodies. And crocs. And Ugg boots. In fact people have no fashion sense so they need help; everyone should only wear clothes from a prescribed list so no one looks bad or gets offended. In fact forget the list, everyone wears the same damned thing, that way its fair.

    Prat.

    1. Sandgroper 23 Jun 2013, 2:39am

      ‘A day celebrating the death of Maggie seems something I could get behind.’ – now that is more like it.

      ““This is serious attempt to deliver policies that the British public really want. ” – Freudian slip ‘Bonehead’, I think you are confusing what the British public want with what you want. I think the British public will decide what they want. There is a big difference between ‘democracy’ & the ‘democrazy’ where you think you can decide what the British public want.

      Midnighter, like you I am no fan of burkhas, hoodies, crocs and Ugg boots, but banning them is a bit too close to Bone(head’s) autocratic inclinations. If you don’t like them, think of them as markers of people you would prefer to avoid.

      Finally, I followed one of the links in the article & found this – just about sums up the kind of person he is.

      In 1995, the Daily Mirror dubbed Mr Bone, who opposed minimum wage regulations, the “meanest boss” in the country for paying a 17-year-old 87p an hour.

  6. Ye gods, it’s like a list of the worst possible ideas imaginable! It’s Tory badness distilled in its most pure and sickening form

    1. ‘Tory badness’ – isn’t that a tautology?

  7. Weren’t these the same guys who said the govt should stop wasting time on things like marriage equality and concentrate on getting the economy going again?

    out of touch loons with nasty and dangerous ideas…….pretty scary actually!

  8. It sounds like a joke, like a line of demands put forward in jest by the likes of Paul Merton or Russell Brand.

    But these bloody loons really mean it!

    Yikes! It’s scary.

  9. Can we have a referendum on ‘straight’ marriage and whether or not we need a monarchy and House of (gay) Lords?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Jun 2013, 6:45pm

      You forgot to include the CoE!

      1. Metsän poika 23 Jun 2013, 2:42am

        Yes, separate the state and church.

  10. Gosh! Have they finally lost it?

    1. Metsän poika 23 Jun 2013, 2:44am

      Hmmm, not sure ursus. You actually have to ‘have it’ before you can ‘loose it’. I’d argue that they never had it to loose it! lol

  11. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Jun 2013, 6:44pm

    They’re going nowhere. There ought to be a way to eject Tory loons from their party, permanently. The loonier they get, the less chance they have of re-election. They should all just defect to UKIP and get it over with. Who are the others on the list? Loughton, Burrowes, Dorries, Gale, Leigh, Baldry, Leslie, Coffey, Offord…..?

  12. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Jun 2013, 6:54pm

    The man is an utter buffoon. I watched him stand up and speak during third reading ranting his loony agenda. He even looks absurd with that freaky hairdo. He won’t get very far with this nonsense having now officially made himself the representative of the loony right.

    1. He probably can’t get a decent haircut because he refuses to subsidise “Satan’s sodomitical’ hairdressers, perhaps? :)

    2. Yes, the hair makes him look like a character from “Star Trek Deep Space Nine” or something, however it’s strangeness is nothing compared to the guys petty bigotry and nastiness.

  13. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Jun 2013, 7:02pm

    Even if any of his nonsense ever made it to the floor of the Commons, there wouldn’t be enough votes to get anything through. He wouldn’t get much support from Labour or Liberal Democrats and I’m quite certain only half of the Tories, delusional loon.

  14. All for the banning of burkas but the rest are horrid.

  15. These are genuine MP’s?
    David Cameron should sack them immediately

  16. GulliverUK 22 Jun 2013, 8:05pm

    They can’t do anything without living up to their Spitting Images.

    From pretty much whatever political persuasion you come from, this paints right-wing Tories as total nutters, racist, homophobic, misogynistic. xenophobic – just what I said about the BNP and UKIP. You can paint over sh!t but it’s still there, you have to wash away and disinfect – and Cameron’s modernisation of the party hasn’t worked.

    Although clinging to some sort of false hope that …. somehow .. they can turn things around before the next election, they must be close to the full realisation that they will be in opposition after 2015, and probably not back in for at least a decade, by which time most of these right-wingers will be too old to continue as MPs, and they will be replaced by more well-rounded less gaff-prone ones.

    A lady came to the door today, from Labour, I told her I would be voting Labour, and that’s probably what I’ll do.

  17. Christopher Coleman 22 Jun 2013, 8:14pm

    Nutters they are, but they are all MPs and were elected. That reflects badly on the pool of available candidates, local selection committees, and on the voters.

    And which one of this parliamentary group is the alternative queen?

  18. GulliverUK 22 Jun 2013, 8:16pm

    All these absurd moronic intentions are to be introduced as private members’ bill (EDMs – Early Day Motions?) ?

    What an outrageous waste of time – nobody wants them, just like nobody wants the fox-hunting ban lifted, but the first thing some Tories did when they got in was start talking up that.

    Then … then… they have the nerve to say that equal marriage legislation is wasting parliamentary time. They shouldn’t be sacked, they should be locked up in a psychiatric hospital.

    Why do they think they can take on almost the entire general public on these issues — just when there is going to be a massive push back against their austerity programme?

  19. But banning the burqa is both illiberal and stupid (it would only create more tension and defiance), and a holiday after the old bag who destroyed our industries and sowed the seeds of greed that are now arguably causing our current economic crises, no thanks! I must confess though, I’m not wholly averse to the idea of stringing up child killers like Brady and Huntley. Whether you leftie sops like it or not, there are some very good arguments in favour of restoring the death penalty.

    1. And there are even better reasons against restoring it. The idea that the state should have the right to end its citizens lives no matter what those citizens have done appalls me quite frankly. The death penalty is brutal and barbaric and undermines any claim a country may have to being civilised whether you rightie loons like it or not.

    2. St Sebastian 23 Jun 2013, 3:19am

      “there are some very good arguments in favour of restoring the death penalty”

      And they are?

      1. Jock S. Trap 23 Jun 2013, 11:50am

        Indeed… if the family has to live with the aftermath then why shouldn’t the killer. To kill them makes it easy for the criminal. Make them live with their guilt, in the hell they have created for themselves in prison.

    3. Jock S. Trap 23 Jun 2013, 11:48am

      I actually support a ban on the burka because it goes against what women’s suffrage fought for And it goes against British Culture.

      I think it’s an insult to have a public Bank Holiday for Thatcher when it should sure be for Churchill.

      I used to support the death penalty until I saw the amount of innocent people who would be put to death for crimes they did not commit. I have grown to think how can we justify illegal murder for legal murder.

      Also surely to hang someone is a cope out. As families have to live with the loss of a loved one so too should the criminal have to live with it with a reduction in his freedoms and rights. Those killed had no choice but I think it’s more punishment to make someone live with their guilt.

      I hope Ian Brady looses his case… his rights were lost the minute his killed. I also don’t see why it is in the media at all. It should be the victims who are remembered Not the murderer.

      1. There will never be a bank holiday for Churchill in the uk as there would be objections from the muslim community , considering Churchill’s thoughts on islam.

    4. Robert in S. Kensington 23 Jun 2013, 12:34pm

      State sanctioned murder is no better than anybody else committing such a crime. Hypocrisy! Killing someone legally doesn’t do anything or bring the victim back, nor does it deter others from killing. For example, the American state of Texas executes more people than the entire country combined where the death penalty isn’t the norm, yet it doesn’t deter would-be murderers in that state. I don’t want the death of anyone at the expense of my tax pounds. What if that person were wrongfully convicted and executed? No thanks.

  20. That There Other David 22 Jun 2013, 9:01pm

    LOL. This is a joke, right? Nobody is this seriously demented surely.

    Margaret Thatcher Day? LOLOLOL!!! :D

    1. Conned by the Cons 23 Jun 2013, 3:27am

      And whilst they are at it, how about the Margaret Thatcher and Norman Tebbitt day…
      It’s enough to make you want to cry.
      :-(…..

  21. the referendum is already inserted in the same sex marriage s 48 see it here…it is a spanner!!! thy wont seek it before 2015 http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2013-2014/0029/amend/ml029-iii.htm

    battle is far from done,,,

    1. the campaign now is to pitch and convince jo public
      of the need for same sex marriage,,,bizarre democracy but that is what it has come down to guys

    2. That There Other David 22 Jun 2013, 9:18pm

      That amendment hasn’t yet been voted on by the HoL. It’s a suggested amendment at this point. As such it could (and is likely to) be removed again in a matter of weeks.

      1. no one EVEN challenged it -(will have to watch the archive )was the other thing i was going to say so it looks as if it is remaining see also the last section (59) the three -Anderson, Cormack and Singh are insisting that it remains…I don’t think there is another sitting by the HOL to vote on this guys honestly ..please Pink news check…we cant be sleeping as we approach the finish line….

        1. Nothing gets voted on in the committee stage. The voting happens at the next stage. It will get trounced.

          1. It would be tragically hilarious if both the referendum amendment to the current bill passes, and the proposed referendum bill passes as well. The public will be required to vote twice on the same thing (perhaps even on the same day).

    3. Robert in S. Kensington 23 Jun 2013, 1:39pm

      Not going to happen! Referenda are very costly especially in a current austerity cutting programme and rarely used in the history of Parliament. The EU referendum might be the next one although I think there could even be substantial resistance to it. I just don’t see broad support across the three parties for a referendum on SSM. Bone’s proposals are doomed. He and others tried it in the Commons during third reading and were slaughtered.

      1. u were right!

  22. At least these nuts haven’t completely run your country for a decade like they have hear in America.

    1. Careful, the Brits could start an export industry sending British nutters to the USA. They might feel at home there!

      Just kidding, perhaps we could send them all to the Mars, might cool their heads!

  23. The burka should be banned in public, that’s obviously a threat to security .
    And the bbc should be privatised ,I object paying a license for shoddy , biased reporting.

    1. Get a grip 23 Jun 2013, 3:48am

      ‘And the bbc should be privatised ,I object paying a license for shoddy , biased reporting’

      Well, only when you pay their entire cost of running the BBC can you decide what should be done with them. I don’t agree with everything that the Government spend our tax pounds on, but I understand that we live in a diverse community and there is give and take. The alternative would be to live as a hermit on an island far away from everyone else.

    2. Get a grip 23 Jun 2013, 5:23am

      ‘The burka should be banned in public, that’s obviously a threat to security.’

      Rapture, how many burqas have you seen in Britain? What evidence do you have that they have been a threat to security? Of course anyone with a head covering like burqas and helmets should be banned from entering banks, but this is a general policy not directed at a particular race/culture/religion. If you banned the burqa without much evidence as to the actual threat they have been, the risk of antagonism may actually create greater level of dang Watch you prejudices (we know what it is like to be on the wrong end of prejudice) and be careful what you wish for, the consequences could be quite different to what you hoped.

      1. There is evidence that the burka has already been used in robberies just recently at an oxford street store and as a method of disguise. If the balaclava is banned in public , it would seem obvious that so too should the burka and other face coverings, that’s common sense. I have seen the burka and niquib been used more in the UK as has the hajib and this will continue to increase especially in british cities/ghettos. You need to watch your prejudices in deliberating favouritism to certain communities rather than equality for all. If people believe on here the burka is ok in public then they will continue to see a lot more of it.
        As for the bbc, you don’t understand that we live in a diverse country obviously , because the bbc do not reflect/represent all communities fairly.

  24. Sandgroper 23 Jun 2013, 5:06am

    Check out the business history of this Bonehead(from Wikipedia):

    Varitext Displays PLC, a small company, liquidated by creditors in 1991, the political campaign company C.N.K Alliance, and Palm Travel (West) Ltd that was liquidated by creditors in 2002 owing £1,359,087 In 1995 Bone was described as Britain’s “meanest boss” by the Daily Mirror when he defended paying a 17-year-old trainee at Palm Travel (West) 87p an hour.[6] Mr Bone is a director of A.J.W.B. Travel Ltd which had a negative book value -£59,284 at the end or April 2012.

    Wonder where all the money went? I love to check the Management/Director’s fees of these companies.

    And he thinks he should give advice to
    the British public?

  25. Sandgroper 23 Jun 2013, 6:04am

    Another interesting clip about Bonehead from Wikipedia, puts him in context. Love the bit about quality of his questions and that he says very little very often. Seems he also pads his CV with unverifiable claims. He has runs businesses that went bankrupt or unprofitable. A man of questionable quality.

    Bone is “too old to hope for any extended career on the Conservative front-bench”,[9] but is regularly one of the ten most active MPs in Parliament, in terms of Questions asked and other contributions.[10] However the quality of those interventions was questioned in a 2006 Times article about the Theyworkforyou website.[10] Bone was one of three new attention-seeking MPs specifically mentioned who boosted “their ratings on the internet by saying very little, very often.”[10] Amongst his 109 “speeches” was one which ran to three short sentences (standing up for Royal Mail in that a sub-postmaster in Little Irchester had the only business in the village).[10]

  26. MMM where is my comment?

  27. Colin (London) 23 Jun 2013, 11:13am

    Then labour will win the election then.

    1. Apparently going to discuss these proposals on Andrew Marr (BBC1) soon.

      1. after seeing ed balls this morning, i think i’ll wait for a new left-leaning party to manifest before voting again…

    2. Jock S. Trap 23 Jun 2013, 11:58am

      Then this country is doomed…. I think I trust Cameron/Osborne more than I do with Siliband/Balls.

      At least with Cameron/Osborne you know what you’re getting. I don’t agree with some of it but I would never trust Siliband/Balls with the economy and I would Never trust a leader who stabs his own brother in the back.

      If he has no loyalty/respect to his own brother, how can he have loyalty/respect to run a country.

      Sad thing is I may have voted for David Miliband. Ed… No!

      Boris for PM!!! Mind you knowing the backbenchers it wouldn’t be long before they stabbing him in the back like they do with Cameron.

  28. Great. Peter Bone is my local MP. I couldn’t feel any LESS represented if I tried. How do these nutters get into parliament? The mind boggles!!

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 23 Jun 2013, 12:26pm

      James, it doesn’t boggle my mind. They get into Parliament because of like-minded constituents who turn out in droves to vote for far-right extremist loons such as Bone. If apathetic, disaffected constituents stay home instead then they get what they didn’t vote for and they can’t complain after the fact. No party is perfect, but for those who don’t vote for whatever reason, they’re giving away an election to perhaps a party they never wanted to form a government in the first place. I don’t care for any of the three parties, but I’ll vote for one which supports my equality no matter if some of their other policies are disagreeable. Until we get the right to marry, I’ll continue voting on the single issue of equal marriage no matter the party. We’ve waited far too long in my view.

    2. That There Other David 23 Jun 2013, 1:34pm

      Blame Tony Blair. Wellingborough was Labour until the Iraq invasion.

      With luck it’ll switch sides again in 2015.

  29. Jock S. Trap 23 Jun 2013, 11:31am

    Their day has come and gone but hey nothing shows people up more than acting like the bad losers they are!

  30. is it worth pointing out that it was a hung parliament in the last election? that means that the electorate (ha! people who actually bother to vote!) couldn’t trust anyone to lead this country… why do these types of tory MPs believe that a shift to the ukippers-side makes them more attractive to the unconvinced electorate, when equally, a shift to actually delivering on election promises would be just as attractive? a democracy that people can believe in is needed, not another PR charade.

    1. MPs are convinced they hold majority support in their constituency when they actually don’t, because when they are voted in they are told how many votes they received as a proportion of those votes that were submitted. My local homophobic conservative MP supposedly ‘won’ by 40.4%, and behaves accordingly.
      If a politician should propose any bill, they should propose one that would require non-votes to be given a calling during election results, and for the percentages to be announced relative to the overall number of eligible voters. If counted in this way, then my MP would have came in second place with a more accurate 25.8%, being second to ‘nobody’ which came out on top with 36.1%.
      I would go further and say that constituencies with a nobody majority should remain vacant until an election re-run a year later, but with nobody majorities being the rule rather than the exception in this country, it would quite literally destroy Parliament.

  31. “This is serious attempt to deliver policies that the British public really want.”
    Really, Margaret Thatcher day? Are you serious?

  32. Oh my god this has to be parody

  33. A helpful suggestion to these tories might be to make those groups they object to wear coloured triangles displayed on their clothing (hang on, I thin that idea has been used before).

    If I was Sven-Goran Erikson I’d be very annoyed at the resemblance.

  34. Robert in S. Kensington 23 Jun 2013, 1:34pm

    Yes, indeed it was a hung parliament and to think loons such as Bone et al really believe that one issue in particular, equal marriage is going to cost them the election, they are very much mistaken. Its the austerity cuts and other policies that will kill off any chances of re-election and Bone’s proposals will only hasten their demise. They have to be beyond delusional to think his proposals aren’t damaging their party in general. I’d like to see who the others are who subscribed to Bone’s, though I suspect Burrowes, possibly Loughton are just two, probably Dorries and Gale, Offord, Leslie, Baldry.

  35. Why don’t these dissenters just leave the Conservative party and form their own Traditional Tory Party… oh that’s right, it’s called UKIP nowadays, isn’t it!

  36. Can we have a referendum about people with clear mental health issues and an extremely loose grip on reality standing for Parliament?

  37. GulliverUK 23 Jun 2013, 5:13pm

    You simply cannot, repeat cannot, modernise the Tory party whilst these troglodytes remain in it. Even some of the new 2010 intake are horrific people – wanting the death penalty back.

    They will be out of power in 2015, with a very big loss of seats. They will wake up, just like the GOP, and then start probing every orifice for answers, hurling accusations inwardly and outwardly, and basically in disarray for about 8 years, after which point they may get their act together again.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 23 Jun 2013, 10:14pm

      You can bet though that once they’re out of power in 2015, the majority will blame the Marriage Bill not realising that its the austerity cuts that were the real cause. They seem to forget that they came into power with a hung Parliament and without a mandate, not a good place to start. Their chances of re-election are still rather slim without the Marriage Bill. Bone et al aren’t helping matters. In fact his ilk are deliberately inflicting harm. Cameron needs to deal with the saboteurs in his midst, swiftly and firmly before they do any more damage. It should have been done when the Bill was going through the Commons.

  38. “I think the Prime Minister will be pretty relaxed about this.”
    About what, Mr Bone? Not about lots of voters noticing his party nutcases howling at the moon, that’s for sure. He’s a corporate stooge, but not a mad idiot like you.

  39. They also mention that they want to re-introduce the death penalty, just goes to show how archaic the ‘conservatives’ want to be.

    I am sure that given the opportunity, he would love to be living back at the start of the 20th century where women were also seen but not heard.

    He is a fossil.

  40. “TORY MPS WRITE ‘ALTERNATIVE QUEEN’S SPEECH’ URGING REFERENDUM ON EQUAL MARRIAGE”

    Now all they need is an alternative queen to give the speech.

  41. Look up the Tory party’s page on rationalwiki. This twit’s name appears under the wonderful heading ‘tory wingnuts’ along with Edward Leigh.

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