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Church of Scotland: Ten Congregations set to split in rows over gay ministers

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  1. Godric Godricson 20 Jun 2013, 2:00pm

    I’m happy for the Church of Scotland because they have made a decision that will eventually separate out those who want an exclusive Church and those who want an inclusive Church. Best wishes to them all.

    I see ‘splittism’ as the future for the Church of England as that lumbering coalition moves towards an inevitable down sizing. Now that the bullies in Sub-Saharan Africa are becoming less and less appealing as companions and the Anglicans have antagonised LGBT people, the Right wing, Evangelicals and the Anglo-Catholics who’ll be left to pass the plate.

  2. Fine. Let them go.

    Don’t let the vestry door smack you on the bottom on the way out!

  3. Jock S. Trap 20 Jun 2013, 3:29pm

    Why do hateful people seem to love the negative attention they get?

    So 10 congregations of nasty, bigots.

    And all because all they can think about is sex!! They are a joke!

  4. Robert in S. Kensington 20 Jun 2013, 3:33pm

    A very good thing, fewer bigots to deal with. Now if only there were a mass exodus of Anglican clergy flocking to the inclusive Episcopalians. I can only imagine the huge blow to Canterbury that would be. I bet you’d see a sudden u-turn by Welby.

  5. GulliverUK 20 Jun 2013, 4:05pm

    What? All the people in these ten congregations are zealot bigoted homophobes ? Unlikely. It may be that some of the congregation will choose to go elsewhere, to an inclusive church.

    Happy for these congregations to marginalise themselves, although it is sad that they don’t have any kindness in their hearts. That is not what Christianity is supposed to be about. The Good Samaritan, helping others, loving your neighbour, doing good deeds without wanting anything back — we were led to believe those were the things which Christianity stood for. Perhaps the other 1390 congregations got the memo and these 10 didn’t?

    1. As a member of one of these congregations, Thank you GuliverUK, yes I can assure you that I’m not a bigoted zealot homophobe. However I don’t think that most of the rest of the congregation are either. Also as far as one can tell they mostly are kind people who would go in for the ” The Good Samaritan, helping others, loving your neighbour, doing good deeds without wanting anything back” stuff.
      As always the truth isn’t pure and is far from simple. It isn’t really about gay clergy. Gay clergy in a relationship was the catalyst, but it could have easily been something else set this off. CofS set up a theological commission to decide if married gay clergy was OK with the bible. Instead of debating the results (basically no) They went for a fudge. Gay ministers stay against church law but individual churches can opt out. Evangelicals think this now puts church law at odds with the bible. It is this that has resulted in the split.

  6. Shame on PinkNews and Benjamin Cohen for their relentless promotion of homophobia with these worthless stories.

    Shame on PN and Benjamin Cohen for constantly gaybashing their readsership with these worthless stories.

    Joseph Patrick McCormick is a terrible writer by the way.

    1. GulliverUK 20 Jun 2013, 5:03pm

      Seriously? It’s important that we know these things. I realise that there is a tendency to report news of the haters, but how is that homophobia or gaybashing – you choose to come here and read them. And quite unfair to target individual writers and the management of PN when they are simply reporting the news which is picked up by many dozens of other LGBT news sites. I would rather know these things, if I choose to come here and see them, than to not know about the important things which affect my life.

      These stories are upsetting when there is story after story about bigotry and homophobia and I would encourage PN to consider creating a new front page with two links “I want upsetting news”, and “I want positive news” ! :) Just as an example, Huffington Post do try to strike a balance which allows people be informed, whilst also trying to ensure they have some “good news” stories.

  7. Its better they leave now so they cannot poison any future debate on the subject.

  8. Makes little difference in the long run. Religion as a whole is dying out pretty fast in Scotland judging by recent figures possibly at a faster rate than the rest of the UK. Over one in three Scots now consider themselves non-religious. The figure was less than one in five just over a decade ago. An ever fracturing church will only add fuel to the fire. Me thinks.

  9. I wish they’d hurry up and ‘split’ themselves into non-existence.

    1. Better off without them anyway – Tron church traditionally very militant and bigoted

  10. Closeted gay clergy in a secret relationship? Good.
    Married gay clergy? Bad

    Two-line definition of hypocrisy. It’s worked really well for the catholic church!

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