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Equal marriage opponent Lord Dear withdraws bill amendments

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  1. I would like to know what cases he talks about when he says people have been sued for voicing their opposition to same sex marriage.

    Chances are he can’t provide any hard evidence of this and is still clutching at straws in his attempt to derail the bills progress through the upper house.

    1. People have been sued because they have denied services on the basis of sexual orientation. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, as Lord Dear wants to make us believe.

      1. Indeed, they are breaking the law on the provision of goods and services which as you say is nothing to do with freedom of speech.

    2. Dear said, “There are people out there who are now very concerned about opening their mouths . . . for fear of being dubbed homophobic”.

      Goooooood!

      People “out there” SHOULD now be very concerned about opening their mouths and saying things that are homophobic!

      This old policeman really doesn’t see himself as a in a mirror, as others see him. He really is blinkered.

    3. “We have heard of a number of cases in your Lordships’ House tonight where people have expressed a view and been sued for it.”

      He is a liar pure and simple, if that is what he has said. Reading what he was told by baroness Stowell it seems his amendment was impossible to bring in as it was meaningless. She basically told him he had got it wrong.

      “People are clearly able to express themselves, to hold religious beliefs and express those beliefs, and to do so freely.”

      So what on earth was he blathering on about? He made a big mistake, got it wrong and has now had to back down. He is therefore very embarrassed or should be for being such an idiot.

      1. No, you have it all wrong. He absolutely will NOT see himself as having got it wrong. He will claim persecution by members of the ‘Gay Mafia’!

        1. Terry Eastham 18 Jun 2013, 7:46pm

          I’ve always wondered about that. Do the gay mafia recruit via normal methods or are we all automatically enrolled as soon as we come out? So many homophones talk about the gay mafia and how powerful they are that I really want to join.

  2. We’re not out of the woods yet by any means

    1. Still to go trough granny’s house I guess but there is a happy end after all.

  3. might want to change the double negative in the headline

  4. He is “now very concerned about opening [his] mouth and saying anything at all, for fear of being dubbed homophobic.”

    I suggest that he keeps his mouth shut then.

    1. Why are all these homophobes terrified of being called homophobes?

      1. Because the truth hurts!

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 18 Jun 2013, 11:56am

    There’s more to come. Nasty Lord Dear is introducing the following at the next Committee meeting:

    Secretary of State MUST arrange for the operation and effects of this Act to be reviewed two years and five years after this Act is passed;

    (b) for the report on the outcome of the first review to be produced and
    published within thirty months of this Act being passed;

    (c) for the report on the outcome of the second review to be produced
    and published within five years and six months of this Act being
    passed; and

    (d) for both reviews to be conducted by a Lord Justice of Appeal taking
    appropriate evidence with particular regard to the impact of this Act on civil liberties and the rates of—

    (i) opposite sex marriage, and

    (ii) same sex marriage.”

    http://www.LobbyALord

  6. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2013, 11:58am

    This idiot just doesn’t get it does he.

    People aren’t necessarily being sued for what they saying but more as what they do.

    Suing a couple that discriminates against a Gay couple using their B&B when their B&B is a business.

    Suing a registrar who refuses to perform a Civil Partnership when we all pay taxes that pay for them to perform CPs.

    Suing a Councillor who refuses to help a same sex couple.

    The list is endless but none of them are being sued for their opinion, that they are entitled to like everyone else.

    What they’re being sued for is their actions. It’s very different and very deceiving for Lord Dear to continue on this lying, misguided path.

  7. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2013, 12:00pm

    This idiot just doesn’t get it does he.

    People aren’t being sued for what they saying but more what they do.

    Suing a couple that discriminates against a Gay couple using their B&B when their B&B is a business.

    Suing a registrar who refuses to perform a Civil Partnership when we all pay taxes that pay for them to perform CPs.

    Suing a Councillor who refuses to help a same sex couple, again when equally pay taxes that pay for them.

    The list is endless but none of them are being sued for their opinion, that they are entitled to like everyone else.

    What they’re being sued for is their actions. It’s very different and very deceiving for Lord Dear to continue on this lying, misguided path.

    1. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2013, 2:45pm

      Sorry for the duplicate, it kept coming up page not reckonised.

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 18 Jun 2013, 12:01pm

    Three very nasty loons, Anderson, Cormack and SIngh want a referendum on 7th May 2015 or before June 1, 2015.

    Lord Dear meanwhile was quoting C4M’s script regarding the decline of marriage in Holland, Spain and Argentina, no factual evidence to support it but parroted everything C4M have been saying.

    I also smell MPs Loughton and Burrowes fingers all over these amendments. It’s quite apparent the Lords have been getting help from somewhere.

  9. As a gay man I really appreciate Pink News bringing us this information. However I would feel happier if the content of the story was as clear as possible. Looking at the transcript of the session in the Lords it is clear that the minute Lord Dear said “Shot through” he withdrew that remark. Although I am on the side of same-sex marriage I would prefer it if false impressions of the debate as a whole were not given.

  10. It seems to me that it’s ok to pull people up for saying anything against religion, colour or disability, but a different matter when it comes to homophobic remarks. And yes; when you’re saying that homosexuality is equal to such things as paedophilia or bestiality, or that if we allow gay marriage we may as well allow animals to marry and so forth, then yes you are homophobic!

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