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Australian Senator Cory Bernardi: ‘I was right to warn that equal marriage could lead to polygamy’

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  1. Is a relationship between an animal and a human ‘a consensual relationship between two adults’ – no

    Is a relationship between three or four people ‘a consensual relationship between two adults’ – no

    Is a relationship between two men ‘a consensual relationship between two adults’ – yes

    therefore the argument is invalid

    1. Frank Boulton 22 Jun 2013, 5:48am

      I agree. The ethical problem with bestiality is that animals can’t give consent.

      Polygamy is a more subtle matter. Firstly, allowing men to have many wives objectifies women and turn them into chattels. Marriage equality is about everyone having the same rights, i.e. we can all have one relationship with a consenting adult,, which is recognized equally in law. Polygamy would upset the balance again by allowing some people to enjoy more marriage than others

  2. Those countries that still allow polygamy (usually theocratic cesspits) allow heterosexual polygamy. By his spurious and mentally-defective argument, we can correlate the two and say that straight marriage has caused polygamy.

    Except it would be manifestly intellectually dishonest to do so.

    That the concept of legally competent consenting human being does not register in this thick skull is really nothing new. It is a moronic argument, relied on by the stupid, that simply illustrates that they have a belief that we are not quite human.

    Just another tedious ignorant homophobic repeating arguments that have been debunked thousands of times to try and conceal what he would really like to do – slap down the uppity homosexuals because how dare we not know our place.

    1. More to the point the lion’s share of those countries which legalise polygamy have a much more draconian approach to gay rights of any description… let alone gay marriage.
      Slippery slope fallacies rely on the notion that if you legalise one thing you have to legalise everything rather than lawmakers judging each case on its own merits.
      Perhaps we should ban hetero marriage with its ‘proven track record’ as a slippery slope to polygamy?

      1. “There is now a petition being put together for the Parliament by green activists to recognise multi-member unions.”

        Right, and? What a non sequitur.

        1. Same-sex marriage was voted down, yet the petition still exists.

        2. A petition does not equate to legally sanctioning polygamy.

        3. In countries where polygamy is legal, homosexuality itself is illegal.

        4. In countries where same-sex marriage has been legalised, polygamy remains illegal.

  3. There certainly is some creepy people out there Mr Bernardi, you being one of them!

  4. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2013, 2:42pm

    Funny coz I don’t see any of that in countries that have marriage equality.

    Maybe in countries though that don’t allow, where we also campaign against young girls being forcibly married at ages as young as eight, that is true but to compare marriage equality to those countries is backward in itself..

    Funny how they use such stupid arguments to justify their assumption (that’s is all they are after all) just because they wish to stereotype and label us to THEIR agenda.

    Pathetic.

    1. Sandgroper 18 Jun 2013, 6:02pm

      The only groups I know of that want polygamy are religious groups.

      1. Quotes from HuffPo Canada from earlier this month.
        “Two years later, B.C. Supreme Court concluded that even though the ban against polygamy infringes on religious freedoms, the harms associated with the practice, such as child brides and sexual abuse, outweigh those rights.”

        “The constitutionality case was prompted after polygamy charges against two leaders of divided factions of the Mormon sect, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, were thrown out in 2009.”

        “The sect, prominent in the tiny community of Bountiful in southeastern B.C., condones polygamy. However, prosecution against the two rival leaders, Winston Blackmore and James Oler, failed because the court ruled that their rights were violated when the government chose its prosecutors.” http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/06/02/polyamory-legal-recognition_n_3375955.html

  5. ooo 25 signatures! that’s major!

    1. Sandgroper 18 Jun 2013, 6:00pm

      And where is the evidence, even with its 25 signatures. Even if true, what politician with any credibility would even rely on a petition with 25 signatures as credible evidence of community support?

      He is as Julia Gillard says, a nut job.

  6. That There Other David 18 Jun 2013, 2:53pm

    How exactly do same-sex couples marrying lead to these things in Australia when Australia doesn’t allow same-sex couples to marry?

    The only logical conclusion to draw is that opposite-sex couples being allowed to marry is leading to polygamy and bestiality across Australia. Best Senator Bernardi hurry up and bans it eh?

  7. Yes, this stupid bigot was right because as we all know bestiality and polygamy are legal in The Netherlands, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Denmark, Belgium, South Africa, New Zealand, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Spain, Portugal, France, Mexico, Uruguay, and the US states that have legalized ssm. Dolt.

  8. Polygamy doesnt equal bad. Law would be complicated around it, which is what makes it prohibitive apparently. But I fail to see what’s wrong with it if it’s open, trusting, consensual.

  9. “Consensual sexual relations between humans and animals”? Where are these animals that can hold a meaningful conversation with a human in order to then give reasoned consent to sex with said human?
    Only in this idiot’s head, methinks.

    1. Maybe he was chatted up by his horse…..
      Or he was high on something and thought he was chatted up by his horse…
      Or…

      needless to say he is a tit!

      1. Sandgroper 18 Jun 2013, 6:05pm

        In the great Australian tradition, Cory Bernardi wins the Horses Arse of the Week award. (I hope that doesn’t arouse him).

  10. Polygamy is and has historically been associated with various religious groupings? Polygamy has nothing to do with two consenting adults wishing to marry, it’s a seperate issue altogether.

  11. Robert in S. Kensington 18 Jun 2013, 3:46pm

    Bernardi = Italian descent = catholic loon. Now, I have a question for him. Before 1893, the Mormon sect in America actually sanctioned polygamous marriages. What exactly was the cause of that I wonder? Oh I know, the bible told them so. Delusional loon. To think that’s what gets elected to office? Frightening!

  12. Christopher in Canada 18 Jun 2013, 4:36pm

    You can’t fix stupid, but why keep voting stupid into public office?

    1. Sandgroper 18 Jun 2013, 6:13pm

      He got in on a ‘Senate Ticket’. Essentially you vote for a party for our upper house, the seats are apportioned according to the proportion of votes that party receives. The political party nominates the order of preference of their nominated candidates. If a senator leaves mid-office there is no fresh election, the party just nominates their candidate. This is how our Foreign Minister, Bob Carr got his seat in the Senate.

  13. Sandgroper 18 Jun 2013, 5:51pm

    This man is extraordinarily dangerous. He was the Private Secretary to Tony Abbott, leader of the “Liberal” Party (Conservative) leader of the opposition until he was sacked for making these claims earlier this year. He is a Christian Fundamentalist who has spent time with the Tea Party in the USA studying the techniques they use to promote (indoctrinate) the public with their ideas.

    As far as I am aware, he has provided no evidence for his claim that gay marriage is the slippery slope to the legalisation of polygamy and bestiality.

    Hopefully his verbal bile will convict him as an extremist that ought not be taken seriously.

  14. Jancis M. Andrews 18 Jun 2013, 7:50pm

    Bernardi is woefully out of date on his reading of international documents concerning the rights of women. Australia ratified the Convention on the Elimination of All forms of Discrimination Against women on July 28, 1983, and is legally obligated to uphold its provisions. CEDAW condemns polygamy, and there is much research stating that polygamy (one man, many women) contravenes women’s equality rights and harms and impoverishes their children. No country that has ratified CEDAW can legally allow polygamy. Thank God for that!

  15. Christopher Coleman 18 Jun 2013, 7:51pm

    Membership of a legislature is no guarantee of intelligence.

    Polygamy is not a logical result of the acceptance of same-gender unions. Polygamy and polyandry are ancient practices and are still found in some societies.

    Polygamy is still practiced in some traditional Mormon communities in the USA, without gay marriage to inspire it. There are occasional prosecutions, whenever under-age girls are thought to be involved.

    It is conceivable that American Mormons, or Mormons elsewhere, would have begun a push to legalize polygamy. It is just an accident of history that the call for same-gender marriage has become the trailblazer. Would gays have dreamed of such a development 30 years ago?

    Bestiality has also been around for a very long time and must have been practiced in our Western societies for it to have been made illegal.

    All these sexual practices, including “traditional” marriage, are linked in one way only — human beings are involved.

  16. Ruth Tidemann 18 Jun 2013, 10:49pm

    Looks like our wonderful parliamentarian Cory is projecting his own bestiality into the argument.

  17. Kristyana Finch 19 Jun 2013, 3:00am

    This man is a first class idiot! To even suggest a link to beastiality and polygamy would suggest he has no idea what he is talking about. A sad reflection of the quality of political representation in Australia today .
    I am a transgender woman and I am married , now I am sure that Bernardi would have some perverse veiw of what that means,but as I am married it means I must divorce ,in order that I can legally change my designation male to female on my identity . And it makes no difference what surgery I have .
    I must admit that I’m amazed that such a backward thinking mind set can obtain political office . It is the same deranged mind set that would suggest the marriage of a human and an animal . I for one believe it has no place in a modern intelligent Australia .

  18. JackAlison 19 Jun 2013, 4:07pm

    oh cummon
    the guyz a nutjob
    runaway mouth , always after a headline.
    he’s a media whore with the worst of them. he sort of australia’s version of rick santorum in the USA…just a neva ending barage of “gays have sex with their dogs their parents their cousins and even he said a couple of months ago with their brothers and sisters…he was frothing at the mouth and very excited by this prospect?!”(u join the dots)

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