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Lord Tebbit: ‘Homosexual men are already equal, subject to the laws on incest and bigamy’

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  1. Just keep digging Lord Tebbit. We can only hope that once you have finished digging, that you then decide to reside in the hole that you have dug forever more!

    You’re a vile old has been who should have no place in modern politics

  2. Beelzeebub 4 Jun 2013, 11:43am

    ”rights of a homosexual man are identical to mine. Subject to the laws on incest and bigamy.”

    Except they can’t marry.

    You know. That thing you are currently “debating”.

    Senile old fool.

    1. Beelzeebub 4 Jun 2013, 11:56am

      Actually thinking about it, the old goat has shot himself in the foot with that blurlb.

      The definition of bigamy is as follows:

      “In cultures that practice marital monogamy, bigamy is the act of entering into a marriage with one person while still legally married to another.”

      We are NOT married and legally cannot be married. See the problem you old fart.????

      1. We legally can be married to persons of the opposite gender. I tend to agree with him that the bill seems to have been inappropriately framed in a context of ‘equality’ for individuals who want to marry persons of the same sex. Does it make bisexual people more ‘equal’, for instance?

        His argument regarding polygamy also seems valid to me. I know people in truly polyamorous relationships who shall still be denied the right to marry the persons they love after this bill becomes law. Should they also be made ‘equal’? Is marriage supposed to be about love, legal benefits or inter-family social contracts (historically, I think, the latter has been the main factor) and should it be possible to separate these?

        Amongst the rubbish he’s spoken, I think that Tebbit has highlighted some very salient points raised by same-sex marriage law.

    2. Tebbit’s – and the other bigots’ – point is that he and gay men all have the same rights – to marry women, and not to marry men. The point he’s missing is that we don’t all have the right to marry the person we love, which is the right being fought for in this legislation….

      1. Well said Mark.

  3. Lord Tebbit, I swear to you, you will be dead by the time a lesbian queen comes along, if there ever is one. You will not have the privilege of seeing one! So settle down now.

  4. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2013, 12:04pm

    Norman… You’re boring me now… Next!

  5. I hope they speed things up today and get the vote done quickly.

    Not sure I can stand another full day of elderly 70/80 something peers coming out with more stupid outrageous comments….

    If it wasn’t so serious ,it would be quite funnny…..most of the peers objecting to the bill wouldn’t vote for any LGBT rights anyway, it’s a complete farce to say the HoL scrutinse bills and make them better….

    1. That There Other David 4 Jun 2013, 12:09pm

      Quite a few of the peers that have spoken have been incredibly eloquent in their support of the bill. Of course those in opposition have no real reasoning going on behind their arguments, and that clearly shows to the observer when contrasted to those speaking in favour. However, you can’t fault how the Lords on either side of the debate are articulating their points. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by just how civilised the debate has been compared to that rabble in “the other place”.

  6. That There Other David 4 Jun 2013, 12:06pm

    Just the same old nonsense he’s already spouted. Nothing to see here, move along!!

  7. God….this ancient old fossil is despicable. He’s a vile, homophobic, bigoted old man and has absolutely no business debating on something like equal marriage. It’s for future, hopefully more accepting and enlightened generations when he will be dead, gone and hopefully forgotten.

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 4 Jun 2013, 12:10pm

    Thank you, Lord Tebbit for helping pass the Bill into law, keep it up old duffer.

    What an extreme embarrassment he is to the Tory party and to the Upper Chamber and importantly, to himself, an eccentric, delusional buffoon.

  9. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2013, 12:11pm

    “Marriage exists not just for the convenience of couples but to stabilise society”

    Hypocrite.

    If it’s good enough for a couple of the opposite sex to ‘stabilise society’ then it’s good enough for same sex couple, bigot!

  10. Regardless of the outcome of this vote, the House of Lords must be abolished. Allowing an unelected house of extremist geriatrics to pervert the will of the elected Commons makes a joke of the idea that Britain is a democracy.

    1. That There Other David 4 Jun 2013, 12:20pm

      To be fair, many of the peers who spoke yesterday mentioned how aware they were that they have no real right to halt a Bill that the Commons had passed so overwhelmingly in a free vote. The chambers are not equivalent in their powers, and the Lords are fully aware of that.

  11. why does not this old man and all the old fogey,s retire and leave running the country to younger more capable. Oh and im an old fogey

  12. Greatest living argument for mercy killing!

    1. “Greatest living argument for mercy killing!”

      Agreed, but not for his sake, for ours.

  13. Non-consummation? Bastard claims to the throne!? Has he been confusing real life with “Game of Thrones”?

    1. :) he is a delusional old scrote, to be sure.

  14. It’s shame he didn’t die in the Brighton hotel bomb, the world would be a better place without him.

    1. That There Other David 4 Jun 2013, 12:46pm

      Had that happened he’d now be considered a worthy hero, and his views back then would be venerated due to his “martyrdom”. Would you really have preferred that, or him being around now to make an idiot of himself and discredit his political allies by association?

      1. He wouldn’t have been considered a ‘martyr’ by any stretch of the imagination, his achievements are not that great.

  15. Every time that man opens his gob I swear I keep hearing this tune…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tKsH8PHyog

    - So what if there was a lesbian queen? Even in the unlikely event the lineage of the royal family was broken, other royal dynasties are available. or did he forget about the Plantaganets, the Tudors, Stuarts, Hanovarians, Saxe-Cogburgs/ Windsors? It’s not the end of the world as we know it.
    We could even have a republic if we wanted it.
    - As for incest and bigamy, gay marriage is no more a slippery slope to those than straight marriage is, given both of them are still illegal in the UK.
    On balance those countries that do permit bigamy aren’t so keen on gay marriage or gay rights of any sort.
    I wonder if they ever hear the argument that bigamy is a slippery slope to gay marriage in these countries or do we just accept the two as entirely seperate propositions to be judged on their own merits?

    1. Christopher in Canada 4 Jun 2013, 12:54pm

      We’re sorry, your response has been deemed “too intelligent” for mass consumption. Please relisten to the lyrics of the ABBA song “The Visitors” and expect them to start happening to you any minute!

  16. Christopher in Canada 4 Jun 2013, 12:51pm

    Who are these people and why does Britain keep them around? Even the dinosaurs became birds once the age of mammals came around…

  17. His speech was mercifully short – in time and on content.

    The pity is that a good and reasoned vote of another lord has to be wasted counteracting this loon’s vote.

  18. Oi Tebbit, on yer bike!

  19. Does he think it is funny to say that gay and straight men have the same rights – they can both marry women? Is it b ad humour, or complete stupidity that he doesn’t understand what it is to be gay, or cruel that he would subject a straight woman to a life of misery married to a man who has no sexual interest in her (we know he doesn’t care how the gay husband would feel)? Probably all three.

    His simplistic, shallow views reveal his barrow boy origins. Perhaps he would have been more useful as a barrow boy- that or blood and bone fertiliser. Dreadful, awful man.

    1. That’s a supposedly smartass meme that’s been doing the rounds.
      The same logic that says “paraplegics can use the perfectly good stairs”, “black people can choose anything from our wide range of skin whitening cosmetics”, “Jewish people can choose from the hotel’s breakfast smorgasbord of bacon and French charcuterie” and not forgetting “Women requiring toilet facilities are free to use the urinals in the gents”.
      Apparently this is what passes for equality in some quarters… at a guess remote backwaters such as you might get in a hollywood slasher movie which haven’t had contact with the human race or soap since the 1950s.

  20. Colin (London) 4 Jun 2013, 1:10pm

    Yes senile fool….A man I once respected. But society has moved on when he has not and actually I’m just a tad sad for him. He actually did some good for the Uk in his day but his day has gone now.
    Politics aside he lives in the not so glorious past.
    I believe in the Britain of today and the massive tallent pool of today. Be a light UK as we have always been to others. just keep going..keep going.

  21. This is what happens when you have in-breeding in the ‘aristocracy’.

  22. CH Brighton 4 Jun 2013, 2:25pm

    Poor Norm. The prospect of the artificial insemination of a sovereign lady lesbian queen is clearly causing him disturbed nights. If Kate and Will have a daughter next month, Norm may well have a total breakdown as it could appear to him that his fantasy might be starting to come true.

    1. Nob Lord, more like.

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