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Labour Lord Collins: ‘Passing equal marriage in the Lords will show LGBT people are equal’

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 4 Jun 2013, 4:06pm

    I’m sorry, Lord Collins but you’re not legally married in the UK. CPs are not marriages under the law. So, there is no full equality until we’re allowed to marry.

    1. Robert – he knows it, which is why he’s just made a thoroughly impassioned speech in the Lords. One of the best

  2. mmmm not sure this constitutes total equality – certainly a necessary step towards equality though –

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 4 Jun 2013, 4:24pm

      No, CPs don’t constitute total equality, but suddenly have become an expedient tool for the opposition to justify a ban on equal marriage. Many of them never even voted for them in the first place. They feigned support for them last month in the Commons as a means to wreck the bill, nothing more. Proof is that none pro-actively campaigned or tabled a bill since 2004 to allow straights access to them.

  3. You’ll never change the minds of the bigots and homophobes by reforming the legislation. But by making marriage open to all sends out a powerful signal to bullies and religious zealots …”it’s pointless trying to discriminate, alienate and isolate gay people. WE’RE EQUAL UNDER THE LAW … whatever your archaic ‘belief’ system says.

  4. If we gain marriage equality we will still not have equality.

    At least not equality with ‘Lords’ such as MISTER Collins, who is allowed to decide whether LGBT people have equal rights under the law, despite having no electoral mandate to do so,

    If the Bill is successful then we must remember that these unelected people have rights that no-one else in the country enjoys. The House of Lords needs to be replaced irrespective of the outcome.

  5. Is there any other country in the EU with an unelected Upper House which has the power to stifle the will of the democratically elected politicians.

    The House of Lords is utterly appalling and an absolute embarrassment.

    1. Yes, let’s follow the example of, say, Italy, shall we?

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