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Mike Freer: Government warnings on equal pensions for same-sex couples are a red herring

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  1. Kerry Hollowell 27 May 2013, 5:42pm

    I have been trying to get this message out. Thank goodness some one has seen this blatant discrimination and has voiced it.

    1. GulliverUK 28 May 2013, 7:53am

      I tried to tell people about it, on here, on the day of the vote, and most people didn’t seem to understand or care. They wanted to celebrate – which is understandable – I would have like to do so as well.

      When the difference in the Walker case was between getting £500pa or £41,000pa people will finally wake up and care. I won’t be referring to this as “equal” marriage because it is absolutely not. The cost to change this and put it back on an equal footing with heterosexuals is incredibly small, so any attempt to say it would cost too much is ridiculous. I wrote to the government on the same day and haven’t heard back at all. It would be ludicrous to call this equal marriage without equal survivor benefits in pensions — everybody dies at some point, and those who are gay and married or in a CP will be at an extreme severe disadvantage financially.

  2. Robert in S. Kensington 27 May 2013, 6:07pm

    If he has an ally in the Lords, goodness knows how many there are hearing the voices of the opposition to table their amendments as a means to wreck the bill once and for all. Especially the likes of Loughton and Burrowes.

    Would the government be bound to accept any changes or just scuttle the legislation entirely?

  3. A number of us on this comment blog have been pointing this out for WEEKS !!
    It is blatent and un- accountable discrimination there is NO reason, NO REASON for this blatent discrimination to continue _ do pension schemes factor in that some of their contributors are gay? and are unlikely to not have surviving spouces, was this changed in 2005 ?
    whether that is true or not this is a matter of equality – the insurance industry had to take account of EU law when they were discriminating on grounds of SEX they were forced to! –

    This is no different. I believe it is also illegal under EU LAW to discriminate on grounds of sexual orientation.
    They (the government) have already been told by one court that it is illegal and are appealing the court decision.
    This is a disgrace and they need to be held to account!
    Shout about it, call your MP.
    Complain to Maria Miller, flood her in-box.
    Write to David Caneron
    They are hoping not too many people will create a fuss, dis-abuse them of that belief

  4. Peter & Michael 27 May 2013, 6:52pm

    Yes, We agree, having been together for nearly 36 years now, and having a Civil Partnership in late December 2005, we find, at the moment, that pension rights only accrue from then, so, as soon as this can be rectified the better !

  5. Mark van Fistenberg 27 May 2013, 7:39pm

    I certainly hope (and expect no less) than Lord David Puttenham to be pro equal marriage, otherwise I would be deadly disappointed you can tell him. Best regards (also to Patsy) from a former WEST CORK co-resident, who’s now safely living in Amsterdam :-)

  6. This issue seems to be going mainstream !

    Mike Freer was featured on Radio 4’s Moneybox programme on Saturday 25 May 2013.

    You can listen again here:

    1. Whoops, if I’d read the article more carefully I’d have noticed this info was already there… Still, good that it’s getting plenty of coverage.

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