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Tory MP Richard Drax: The equal marriage bill is ‘intolerant legislation’

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  1. Funny how these types are going on about a lack of intolerance. Now they know how it feels and what we have had to put up with for a very long time.

    Heterosexuals can only marry, well yes, but they have always had the option and they have already said that they may look to open Civil Partnerships to straight couples. Personally, I think that they should abolish CP’s once equal marraige arrives on the statute books.

    As for registrars, they are there to carry out a civil service, for which they earn salaries from the tax payer. They are not there to carry out a religious service, if they think that then they are in the wrong job!

    1. That There Other David 24 May 2013, 5:11pm

      Indeed. Registrars don’t get to opt out of performing weddings between atheists, people of other religions etc. They put their own feelings aside and do what they are paid to do. Same-sex weddings shouldn’t be any different.

      And you know what? Six months after they start doing them they’ll not see what the fuss was about.

      1. WE should be so lucky – these phobes wll go o their graves like hte southerner who said Segregation now, segregation forever.

        Ohter people will not understand what the fuss was about.

        Great fear of these conservatives- With equal marriage they will have the option to marry the sex they love (same)

  2. And marriage still will be between an man and a woman, you oaf.

    It will *also* be between two lads or two ladies. It adds to marriage, not detracts from it.

    That said, I do agree with him (more of less) re CPs. Dump the damn things!

  3. funny how GBLT peopel dobn’t tolerate homophobes

    Or Black people don’t tolerate racists

    Or women don’t tolerate misogynists

    Why oh why would that be do you think? Could it be that we have no duty to play nice with our abusers?

  4. Midnighter 24 May 2013, 4:54pm

    “There are no protections for teachers who refuse to promote same-sex marriage”

    Teachers are there to teach facts, not proselytise – thats what your lot does. I’m not surprised you are confused on that point.

    If your dissent has been “silenced” how is that I am sick of hearing from empty headed fools backing a thoroughly flawed argument that was always doomed to fail in any rational debate?

    If religion has had to accept some hard truths then I for one shed no tears – for far too long the LGBT community has had to suffer the slings and arrows of self proclaimed Christians who seem to believe that hate is a Christian virtue. Their ilk bring shame to other Christians and faith groups who have managed to use the same texts to support the LGBT community.

    You are on the wrong side of popular opinion and the wrong side of history, Richard. Tantrums won’t change that.

  5. “the lack of “tolerance” towards “the millions who believe that ‘marriage’ can only be between a man and a woman.”

    Sorry, but how exactly is allowing two people of the same sex going to affect these “millions”? The answer? Zero.
    This directly affects gay men and women in their everyday lives and in no way will damage what already exists as the concept of marriage, it will only add to it.

    1. It’s like saying, that because gay people are allowed to watch television the pleasure that straight people get from watching television will be undermined.

      1. Midnighter 26 May 2013, 9:23am

        Good analogy. Along those lines, this reminds me of watching TV with my obstreperous Grandad; the issue with society up until now is there has been an over privilidged Christian sat there hogging the remote control. Society is trying to politely get everyone on the couch a fair say in what to watch, but this is causing some tantrums.

        1. Midnighter 26 May 2013, 9:25am

          *privileged, apologies.

  6. Christopher Kay 24 May 2013, 4:58pm

    Imagine the headline, “Mixed-race marriage bill is ‘intolerant legislation’ and discriminates against racists”

    Piss off you homophobic idiot.

  7. He’s arguing for affirmative action for those who choose to discriminate. Isn’t that the same ‘logic’ which could be applied to people who hate others on the basis of race, gender, religion and ethnicity etc? Should they be similarly respected and similarly allowed to act on their consciences?

    No one is saying they cannot believe as they choose. Only that to act on it to the detriment of others is prohibited.

    But in this case, they are NOT being discriminated against for not being allowed to openly doiscriminate themselves.

    By this ‘logic’ the killers of Lee Rigby should be respected and even tolerated for acting on their beliefs. I doubt the MP would like that pointed out.

  8. Richard Drax is a moronic bigot.

    Can he not grasp the simple fact that even if same sex couples can marry, then it doesn’t mean that he will have to marry a man?

    And can he not grasp the simple fact that a civil servant (who gets paid by the taxpayer) is required to follow their contract of employment before their religious beliefs?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 24 May 2013, 5:07pm

      If anyone refused to do their job for whatever reason, they would be terminated. Simple as that. Why would he think religious nutters should have more protection and rights than any others? Bloody bigoted hypocrite.

      1. Well I hope it would be the person’s contract terminated rather than the person themself. : )

  9. Yet another tory bigot who fails to see his own lack of tolerance being “controversial and emotive” for those of faith who wish for same sex marriage. Whilst SSM is not for me I am glad to see equality being available for tax paying LGBT person who wants it in spite of small minded nasty bigots like Richard Drax and his ilk

  10. Robert in S. Kensington 24 May 2013, 5:05pm

    Oh, stop the bogus outrage, Mr. Drax! He’s now jumping on the CP bandwagon for straights. If Loughton’s amendment had carried, he was going to vote against the bill anyway.

    I’m sick and tired of being told we’re intolerant when it’s these bloody right wing religious nutters trying to inject religion into everything and controlling how our government works. Get over yourself, Drax including your loony god-bothering constituents most of whom are old age pensioners.

    1. @Robert in S. Ken

      …”most of whom are old age pensioners”.

      Ah I see, Ageism makes it OK. We can happily discriminate against some people just because they choose to be older.

      Hmmm…

  11. Beelzeebub 24 May 2013, 5:05pm

    So we should be tolerant oh his intolerance.

    I don’t bloody think so.

  12. That There Other David 24 May 2013, 5:09pm

    Sigh

    How many times does this have to be spelt out to them? They are free to live their private lives according to whatever rules their beliefs demand, but when it comes to the public sphere society’s rules are the ones that must be followed. And that’s where the law comes in.

    Honestly, are they really so brainwashed by their own self-importance not to see this simple principle?

  13. bobbleobble 24 May 2013, 5:20pm

    I think he needs to start by looking up the word tolerance in the dictionary since he clearly doesn’t understand the concept. He then needs to consider that what he actually wants to see is those who are intolerant of us have legal protection for that intolerance.

    As for these millions, well they may exist and they may not. But why does their view trump that of anyone else? Just because a lot of people believe something doesn’t mean they are right.

    1. Beelzeebub 24 May 2013, 6:15pm

      You just need to look at “all” faith based religions and it proves your point.

      I feel honored at being born with a brain that sees through all these cults and there multi-various methods of control and power.

      Its a pity the politicians do not, or perhaps it suits there purpose.

      Perhaps once humanity “grows up” we will get there, but humanity generally is inordinately stupid so I do not hold out much hope.

      I as a gay man “TOLERATE” their stupidity.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 24 May 2013, 10:11pm

      There’s another word he can look up in any dictionary. The word is ‘bigot’, and one definition states…’ a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance,’ be it racial, ethnic or based on sexual orientation.

  14. Robert in S. Kensington 24 May 2013, 5:23pm

    Oh, Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax (that’s his full name), a whinging Tory religious loon, do us all a huge favour and f_ck off!

    1. I thought you were joking about his name, so I looked it up.

      Tee hee.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 24 May 2013, 6:31pm

        Amazing isn’t it. You couldn’t make it up if you tried. Weird parents he must have have or had, but then a lot of those old school Tories have similarly odd names. One of Jeremy Hunt’s middle names is ‘Streynsham’. Boggles the mind. They’re a peculiar lot aren’t they?

        I just tweeted Drax. Interesting to see if he comments but I won’t hold my breathe.

    2. Beelzeebub 24 May 2013, 6:18pm

      Its obvious then.

      Buggered at private school daddy sent him to.

      Hence the homophobia.

  15. Robert in S. Kensington 24 May 2013, 5:28pm

    I do wish someone like Chris Bryant or Nick Herbert had asked this moron last tuesday if CPs for heteros were introduced during the 2004 legislation, would he think it unfair that we’re not allowed to marry? Would he not vote for the bill if he’s so concerned about tolerance and fairness? Of course he wouldn’t. BIGOTED homophobe.

  16. “Richard Drax?” Wasn’t he a bond villain?

    1. That was his brother Hugo. ;-)

  17. keith francis farrell 24 May 2013, 5:50pm

    another effing homophobe. He thinks discrimanation is quite acceptable. I think he needs a head scan to see if their is any brain there or if he is operating in a vacume

  18. Since 2001 marriage has not only been between a man and a woman but also between persons of the same sex.
    The millions of knuckle-draggers Richard Drax wants us to indulge can believe whatever they want but the reality is that same sex marriage exists already and will continue to do so in an ever increasing number of countries and jurisdictions around the world.

  19. Beelzeebub 24 May 2013, 6:30pm

    “……we have trampled on conscience and faith with abandon.”

    Yes.

    Just as that poor bugger hacked to death in Woolwich trampled conscience and faith with abandon just walking down a street.

    The divisive religions are the cause.

    When will you people realize that religion is the CAUSE of these problems.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 24 May 2013, 6:33pm

      One of the perpetrators was brought up in a devout ‘christian’ home then later converted to Islam in 2003. Yes, religion is at the heart of many of these problems.

      Is there any official confirmation that the victim was actually beheaded?

      1. Beelzeebub 24 May 2013, 6:46pm

        They ran him down with a car and than hacked at him.

        I think the gory details are irreverent.

        1. Robert in S. Kensington 24 May 2013, 7:34pm

          In terms of newspapers reporting any incident they should aim for accuracy. I’m on holiday right now in the States and the press here all seem to say he was beheaded. I’ve not read any of that in UK papers online.

  20. Hey Mr Drax, newsflash. Same sex marriage alreay exists in the world and nobodies marriage in the UK has been affected by it so far so why will it suddenly have an impact now that we’re introuducing it as well?

  21. Not worth the breath.

  22. johnny33308 24 May 2013, 9:45pm

    Another ordinary bigot who does not have the intellectual ability to use the word “equality” and instead calls freedom “intolerance”……what a tired old refrain he sings, as do they all. This issue is about a SINGLE matter; equality for all people under the Law. It is about nothing else, no matter how much or how creatively the twit bigots complain about the downfall of western civilization blah blah blah *yawn* ….let them continue to speak since it only reinforces rationality and empathy within normal people for our just cause; to correct a terrible and historic injustice done to vast numbers of innocent people simply because they happen to be LGBT.

  23. Swivel eyed loon. An embarrassment to British politics.

  24. Let these public servants have their discrimination – if I can discriminate who gets salaried from my taxes.

  25. inntoelrance of discrimiantion is a true xtian value.

    not the anti’christs value.

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