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UK: The simple state of play on the same-sex marriage bill and civil partnerships amendments

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  1. barrybear1980 20 May 2013, 3:21pm

    Why, why, why are the ministers arguing over this?

    These people are all in government to represent their constituents and their views.

    If anyone from Pink News picks this up, please remind the MP’s that they are there to represent the whole country

    Thank you… Barry.

    1. ChrisMorley 20 May 2013, 4:09pm

      Pretty simple answer, Barry: the Prime Minister agreed to give Tory MPs and ministers a ‘free vote’, the freedom to vote just as they please. Inevitably this means bickering publicly about it.

      The Tories are arguing about it because the party is fundamentally divided on this issue (like they are divided on other issues like staying in the European Union), and because by voting against equal marriage MPs can show their discontent with the Prime Minister and give him an embarrassing slap down. Lots of Tories really dislike him and the coalition’s policies.

      On equal marriage every constituency has some people both for and against it. MPs can’t represent divided opinions in their constituency. They have to make a choice and vote for, or against it, or abstain.

  2. Angel Perez 20 May 2013, 4:04pm

    This is a smoke screen to take attention away from the fact that Cameron has caved in and we will NOT see same-sex marriage while these fools are in power.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 20 May 2013, 4:09pm

      Delusional to even think that. Don’t you realise the significance of Cameron’s brilliant strategy? Labour supporting Loughton’s amendment would mean that if the bill were scuppered, Labour would take the responsiblity for its failure and that won’t be a recipe for re-election in 2015, giving it away to the Tories, their worst nightmare. Many gays would not vote Labour and more would probably support Cameron and the Liberal Democrats.

  3. Racism, Xenophobia, Homophobia etc etc. It has all been predicted when the Nasty party usurped power in 2010, bringing these arguments and seeking to legitimize them in the public square. Where are all the Gay Tories? Probably moaning about “foreigners”, whatever that means.

  4. British gays and progressives are apparently very politically lazy. When a Prime Minister (especially a Tory of all people) is fighting for gay marriage, but the lazy British gays don’t bother to help him out any by marching, protesting, contacting government officials, staging media events, running ads in media, then you’ve pretty much given up to the opposition.

    You snooze, you lose.
    As with the NRA in the US, the victory goes to those who care enough to show up and show out over their issues. There is a shameful passion gap on this issue, with the antigay side kicking the butt of the gay community in how to put political pressure on government. Having gotten no backup from British gays and progressives, Cameron is at the breaking point. No one should blame him now for giving up.

  5. Sigh. This straight civil partnerships malarky could have been avoided if the Blair administration did what our Clark administration did when we passed our equivalent Civil Unions Act and included straight access to civil partnerships to begin with. Why shouldn’t straight couples have access to it? As for the other questions, good to see that they were dispatched .

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