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Downing Street rejects same-sex marriage criticism from Philip Hammond

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  1. Liam the God 17 May 2013, 4:23pm

    Hammond is actually RIGHT, but for the wrong reasons! All the fuss and Media attention that has been given to SSM has been a very good smokescreen covering the dismantling of the NHS and Welfare State by a Government that DOE NOT have a proper mandate! I know I keep banging on about this, but it’s the truth: Same Sex Marriage is being used as a distraction from the REAL damage being done!

    1. Can I modify that last line of yours, Liam, please, to “Same Sex Marriage has been made into distraction (by a relatively small bunch of traditionalists and religious nutters) from the REAL damage being done!”

      If so, I can agree with your drift.

      I’m pleased to see that No. 10 has clearly and simply rebutted Homophobe Hammond’s assertions of last night. It could have been a stronger rebuttal, but that would be playing into the hands of those who are claiming that No. 10 is putting all of its energies into “Gay Marriage”.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 17 May 2013, 4:31pm

      And Hammond conveniently ignores as do all of the opposition, that there was no mandate, mo manifesto, no white or green paper for dismantling the NHS, among others. Not one voice of protest from any of them about that.

      Well done, Downing Street and David Cameron! About time he started firing back.

      I expect we’ll hear more from the religious loons between now and sunday which is where most of the opposition is coming from.

    3. So wanting to one day be able to get married is a waste of time? Providing equal rights is not a waste of time trust me, what people don’t seem to realise is that the longer we postpone the legalisation of equal marriage the more harm that is done to our reputation as a modern, diverse and equal society. equal marriage has real benefits for the country’s economy and for the perception of the gay community.

    4. Liam the God 17 May 2013, 10:42pm

      Erm, how come I get NINE DOWN VOTES for pointing out a fact??

      1. Because it’s an opinion rather than a fact, and it can be interpreted as wanting the bill to be withdrawn.

      2. You get a thumbs up from me, I didn’t think for a moment you were criticising the bill, just the media frenzy that allows other news to be buried . It’s happening in America too.

  2. There has been no more time spent on this in Parliament than any other bill. It is just people like Hammond who keep going on about it in the way that he is that makes it appear that it is getting more time.

  3. Despite myself being gay and having discussed this subject, via E-Mail, with my local MP, who stated that he would follow the party line, I received the following E-Mail today.

    Dear XXXXX

    You will be aware that I opposed the legislation on the last occasion and I continue to hold this view.

    You may be interested to know that the next stage of the bill will be on Monday 20 and Tuesday 21 May in the House of Commons.

    Unfortunately, I am participating in a trade delegation to China on these dates and will therefore not be able to vote. The visit was arranged in advance and before the Parliamentary Business was announced. It relates to a number of South Wales businesses and plays a part in the wider Governmental target to double UK trade with China.

    Please be assured that when the Bill returns from the Lords at a later date, I plan to maintain my opposition.

    Yours,

    Alun

    Alun Cairns MP
    Vale of Glamorgan

    Therefore I have responded:-

    Thank you for your e-mail.

    As a gay resident of

    1. ….your constituency, you can be assured I will no longer be voting for you.

      Yours.

      XXXXXX

      1. You should have asked him if he will be giving the Chinese a lecture on human rights while he is there. Or perhaps giving them a little talk about society and individual freedom.

      2. Well done, Beelzebub, both for writing to the skunk and for advising him of one less vote.

  4. Tim Loughton MP has put forward a WRECKING AMENDMENT to this Bill-namely that Civil Partnerships should be available to straight people-knowing full-well that if adopted this amendment will wreck the future of the Bill in the House of Lords.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 17 May 2013, 7:59pm

      Well, he can expect some like Chris Bryant to call him out out on his disingenuous support of CPs for straight couples which is nothing more than a political manoeuvre to defeat the bill which won’t happen. He’s a delusional fool. I think it’s shameful that openly gay Liberal Democrat, Stephen Williams, is lending to support to Loughton’s amendment. It won’t succeed, after both of them were part of the Committee Hearings in which Loughton attempted to introduce several amendments favouring christian loons. Thankfully, they were all shot down and so too will this. If Loughton were truly support of CPs for straights, why didn’t he start a campaign before the consultation? The man is despicable and shouldn’t be an MP. He has an religious agenda and as such shouldn’t be allowed to sit in Parliament.

  5. You may be cynical about Cameron’s motives for promoting same-sex marriage as he’s doing, but I have to say he seems to be sticking to his guns rather impressively so far.

    1. Bear in mind he needs to “be seen” to be in control of his party.

      Hopefully equal marriage will get pushed through to make this point.

  6. Mr Hammond’s views on this topic were already very well known, fo example, from what he said on the Andrew Marr Show a few months ago. The BBC was being characteristically mischievous by highlighting Hammod’s views again on their news channel today.

    1. Mischievous? I don’t think so. I think his statement last night stuck out like a saw thumb, it was so inappropriate that it deserved reporting.

  7. i dont understand why it is felt that same sex marriage affects any hetero marriage? they aren’t party to it !!

    what is with the snobbery or standard setting who set the standard anyway?

    1. Lizzie, I believe it’s because in this heterosexist world in which we unfortunately live marriage is held as the heterosexual’s primary achievement. For the heterosexual, not to marry is something of a failure. They are loathe to have to “debase” this great achievement by letting filthy queers like us partake of it. In their eyes that will rob it of its status. After all, if a filthy queer can get married, then getting married can surely no longer have any cache, can it? That’s the underlying thinking, in my view. It’s blatant homophobia. It equates to loathing to letting the slaves walk free. Same thing.

  8. no doubt mr hammond believes mr cameron is just continuing the gay agenda for world domination… toad. i’m sure there is plenty of room in the pub with the rest of ukippers! nasty party – natsi party…

  9. “There is a real sense of anger among many people who are married that any government thinks it has the ability to change the definition of an institution like marriage.”

    Gee, do you think there might be anger from people who have never had equal rights and have been beat up, killed, denied, spat on, and treated as second-class citizens throughout most of history? If you’re not sure, let me clear that up for you. YES WE ARE FRIGGIN’ ANGRY!!!! …and we will not stop until we have full equality. So sorry if that interferes with your agenda of more important stuff.

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