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Lib Dem MPs to be given free vote on all aspects of the same-sex marriage bill

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  1. The free vote given by all parties has turned out to be an advantage for us, since it’s given us a moral mandate.

    In the case of the Liberals it won’t make a ha’peth of difference since most are indeed liberal and rest, such as the likes of Teather take their whip from Rome.

  2. I hope the lib dems who have raised amendments or have put their signatures to them withdraw them before an actual vote is made.I don’t mind them making a point eg straight CPs, humanist weddings etc but the bill is about SSM and any major amendments such as straight CPs would kill the bill. If any vote for the referendum or giving registrars opt out etc then shame on them.

    I’ve also been informed by a Lord that the HoL will be having a vote on their second readng despite apparently the lord’s tradition of not voting on a second reading. How disappointing…I’m still more worried about the lords than than the 3rd reading in the commons

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 16 May 2013, 12:19pm

      Those points were shot down by a large majority in Committee by a vote of 15-4. I’m hopeful the same will happen on Monday/Tuesday. The bigots will try of course but my gut feeling is they won’t succeed after the huge majority vote on February 5th. If you take the number of all who voted no on February 5th including absentees and abstentions in all three parties, those amendments you mentioned would still fail to be carried in terms of their numbers in my view.

  3. Robert in S. Kensington 16 May 2013, 11:46am

    I too am concerned about the Lords vote more than anything. I sincerely hope Maria Miller makes good on her statement last year that the Parliament Act would be invoked if the Lords reject it.

  4. Robert in S. Kensington 16 May 2013, 12:07pm

    Does this mean that a majority of 1 can determine if all aspects and wrecking amendments to carry the vote to implement them? I sincerely hope bigot Burrowes’ referendum doesn’t get much support as well as CPs for straights although I’m sure all who voted no in February will vote for it including absentees and abstainers. CPs for straights can be dealt with after the bill is passed. Just get it done and passed even if it means using the Parliament Act. Straights already have a birth right to marriage, so CPs can take a back seat and I don’t think there would be much demand for them either. Its a step backwards in my view since countries with EM are abandoning them.

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 16 May 2013, 12:20pm

    I encourage all of you who haven’t done so, to contact the Lords. Post the link on Facebook, Twitter if you can. It’s vital.

    1. Thanks for that link Robert.

      A random Lord has just been lobbied.

      I’ll let PinkNews know if he has anything interesting to say.

      Cheers again

  6. A free vote entitles MPs to vote for the majority view of their Constituents NOT their Personal or Faith based views – Do these so called Public Servants know this?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 16 May 2013, 12:56pm

      According to the opposition, the majority of their constituents want the bill killed supposedly because more of them took the time to contact their MPs than those in support. Some even claimed they received few from those in support. I looked at the Out4Marriage chart of those who voted against the bill in February. The overwhelming majority of them gave the reason I just mentioned.

      I’ve not doubt the same will apply to the Lords. There are many pre-1967 homophobes sitting there who supported the illegality of homosexuality. That’s why it’s important to contact them and now is the time.

  7. The pusillanimity of the Lib Dems has become so apparent. Not to mention their hypocrisy. They have proven themselves neither liberal nor democratic. They apparently stand for nothing. Why anyone would vote for them is beyond me.

  8. i would have thought that no Liberal would vote against this.
    There again they weren’t very liberal in supporting the ban on workplace smoking

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