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Brazil: Judges rule in favour of nationwide same-sex marriage

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  1. Jessica Lovely 14 May 2013, 8:52pm

    Yaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

  2. Come on Britain… we were beaten by France and New Zealand and now Brazil and several states of the US.

    When are we going to pass this thing?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 14 May 2013, 9:39pm

      I agree, but in the U.S. equal marriages aren’t recognised at the federal level, the one that matters most.

      The government need to whack this through and get it out of the way. It’s been far too long, longer than any country where it’s been introduced. There is something definitely wrong with the way our system legislates. Far too much bureaucracy and formality, so unnecessary.

      1. Brazil’s bureaucracy is worse. This was not a legislative thing, this was a judicial ruling based on the Brazilian constitution. If it were down to the country’s politicians, this would have taken decades.

    2. Don’t forget Uruguay.

      Your point still stands though, four nations, and a bunch of US states started after us and finished before us.
      And the Purple-tickets-on-the-blue-bus in Parliament still think we’re either going too fast, or in the wrong direction.

  3. Ordem e Progresso indeed- well done Brasil!

  4. The UK homophobic Party are blackmailing Cameron…. MASS PROTESTS REQUIRED NATIONWIDE!

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 14 May 2013, 9:29pm

      I wish, but we’re a lazy, complacent lot. They opposition have beaten us in contacting the Lords. All of this negativity we’re hearing is a result of their cohesion, determination to make the loudest noise and influence the Lords because there are many sitting there just like them. If they don’t hear from us, then we can’t expect success.

      1. If I knew which lords to contact, writing to them would be a lot easier. Do you have any ideas about this?

        1. Robert in S. Kensington 15 May 2013, 12:17pm

          Luke, its the ones who are opposed we need to contact. There’s no way of knowing that of course but you can always try the link below. You’re allowed to contact no more than six. I received on positive response from Baroness Beverly Hughes of Stretford, lovely lady who will be voting for equal marriage. The others that I contacted randomly included Lord Carey of all people. Of course, no response from him, and not surprising.

          I strongly urge everyone to contact the Lords. The opposition have mounted a very large campaign. They need to hear from us. SPUC (Society for Prevention of the Unborn Child) have been very aggressive and their site allows unlimited numbers of Lords you can contact.

          Fight back and contact them:

          http://www.writetothem.com/lords

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 14 May 2013, 9:36pm

    Another one to add to Maria Miller’s list. What an embarassement this is becoming for the UK. The foot-dragging and bureaucracy is insufferable and Liberal Democrat Simon Hughes thinks it’s being fast-tracked? What an idiot!

    Delaying legislation is code for stopping it. All of the useless drivel and claptrap from Burrowes about building consensus and a referendum are a ploy to toss it out. Thankfully, the delusional buffoon won’t succeed.

    1. Peter & Michael 14 May 2013, 10:57pm

      Well, let’s hope that David Cameron implements the Parliament Act if the House of Lords throw the SSM Bill out! Hopefully the proceedings will be shown on Parliament TV from week beginning 20th May.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 15 May 2013, 12:22pm

        Last December, Maria Miller indicated in Parliament that she wouldn’t rule out using the Parliament Act. Speaker of the House, John Bercow who is a strong supporter of equal marriage will be the one with that honour to invoke it.

        The Lords can only delay it for one year. It makes no sense to reject it in light of this, but that’s their prerogative unfortunately.

  6. That There Other David 14 May 2013, 9:44pm

    Wow. Amazing news. Congrats to Brazilians everywhere.

    This is huge when you think about it. The whole of Latin America is now only a matter of time.

  7. “Brazil is the largest Catholic country on earth, it joins fellow Catholic states Spain and Portugal in making same-sex marriage legal.”

    I would like to add another two countries to that, Argentina and Uruguay.
    Not Mexico yet though, since their laws are regional as opposed to national.

    1. bobbleobble 14 May 2013, 9:52pm

      Mexico’s a funny one because SSM can only be performed in Mexico City and one other state but marriages performed there have to be recognised everywhere else throughout the country.

  8. Britain always waits for other countries to take the lead on social progress, it’s a big joke when those speak of Britain as a beacon of equality.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 15 May 2013, 12:33pm

      I agree. There will be some in opposition who will traduce equal marriage legislation next week, as Pope Benedict did, by referring to it as a politically correct fashion trend.

      One thing I’ll say about Cameron, he’s demonstrated leadership in this issue, something that the backbenchers are incapable of. Doing the right thing in the face of opposition is a courageous thing to do. Leadership require that. For example, supposing millions of Britons contacted their MPs demanding a return to the days of women not having the vote, would they really accede to their wishes and support it? They claim they voted against equal marriage because they didn’t hear from supporters. I’m doubtful if some would have voted yes even if support surpassed opposition in their constituencies. There are still remnants of old school religion-based homophobia in the Tory party which has more to do with their opposition I think. It’s still the nasty party in spite of the legislation.

  9. It’s the most unusual and strange situation one could ever imagine. There doesn’t seem to be any protesting. Legalisation just like that: no joyful songs, no happy screaming. As if this were all the time and needed just a “small” clarification :)

  10. Colin (London) 15 May 2013, 12:10am

    Congratulations Brasil. Great news and all gays world will be be cheering.

    As for the UK we need to get as many as possible to contact every member of the House of Lords asking them to support SSM.

    After this bill is passed I think David Cameron will be seen as a PM who moved society forward as this Bill has ramifications for others equality not just SSM and minority groups. The world is changing and our country will be seen to be part of that change and I hope influence others.

    Regardless of your politics just as many MP’s with a free vote have shown SSM support I hope the Gay community can find a way to thank David Cameron for getting this Bill before Parliament.

  11. Very good, but I would not trade the UK for some of these countries that have passed gay marriage, such as Brazil, Argentina and South Africa

    Gay marriage came first than to the acceptance of the homosexual in those countries, and nearly one shut up, you get married and shut up. And of course the typical problems of Third World countries, gay marriage will be legal here until 2015, so we can expect a little more.

    1. For you to say that Brazil and Argentina are third world countries shows your horrific Eurocentric ideology. Those countries legalized gay marriage with nary a whimper, while your country had Thatcher.

      Your good friends across the pond legalized gay marriage and those beacons of culture and gay acceptance literally rioted in the streets.

      Homosexuality Decriminalization:

      Brazil–1830
      Argentina–1887
      Uruguay–1934
      United Kingdom (England and Wales Only)–1967

      South Africa legalized homosexuality in the 90s but that was after the U.K. forced their anti-gay laws on them, and they finally rid themselves of the horrors of British Apartheid. They thought your country was so horrible to LGBT South Africans that they put it in their constitution to make sure that every last vestige of your country’s evil was dislodged.

      I’ll take Brazil, Uruguay,South Africa, and Argentina any day over the U.K. and the rest of Europe.

      1. Also, look at Australia and Germany. Not to insult these countries but we are always told they are the most ‘livable countries’ in the world outside of Scandinavia, yet they keep on rejecting equal marriage. Basically they are the best countries to live in…as long as your straight! Likewise there are countries which have bigger economic and social problems than the UK, for example Spain, that dont have as many problems when it comes to legalising equal marriage or homophobia.

      2. MattISaTOOL 15 May 2013, 10:52am

        Just because homosexuality was legalised earlier and gay marriage doesn’t make it socially accepted. Brazil and South Africa while the government is progressive the people remain very conservative. Im a realist.. so i doubt a gay couple would last 5 minites in the slums without getting shot by a group of thugs… And nations like south Africa and Brazil have HUGE social problems gangs shooting everyone and the government is so corrupt they don’t give too sh*ts to fix anything!. And i doubt life is great if 50% earn less then 2 bucks day.. But you know.. must be paradise for the average person huh?

        1. I can’t speak for South America’s slums as I don’t live there , but a gay man was murdered in Trafalgar square, central London just for holding his partners hand and there is no visible gay affection in Britain’s ghettos.

        2. Have you ever been to Brazil? or Uruguay? or Argentina? We don’t have groups of thugs shooting us in Montevideo or any other major city in Brazil. You’re confusing the problems of Northern South America and central America with the much more stable southern parts of South America. You’re an idiot. I’ve walked the streets of Montevideo at 3 am and I’ve never been shot by a roving gang of ruffians. That is very different than in Germany where they murdered millions of Jews. How progressive you are Europe. You breed a special type of psycho across the ocean don’t you?

      3. Robert in S. Kensington 15 May 2013, 12:43pm

        As I Brit, I agree, but across the pond in the U.S……In 2004 discrimination in the penal code concering gay men was removed.In the U.S., Illinois was the first state to decriminalise sodomy in 1962. By 1984, 25 out of the 50 states decriminalised sodomy. By the end of the 1990’s, the number of states where oral or anal sex between people of the same sex or opposite sex was shrunk to 18, most of them states in the south. By 2003, it was shrunk to just 14. So, it was a long and continuous process. However, in the states that still had sodomy laws, the laws were no longer enforced, or if they were they were enforced against sex in public such as public toilets and cruising in parks. Today there are no states with sodomy laws. In June 2003 the supreme court struck them down in Lawrence vs. Texas.

        I think the UK did a lot better than the U.S. in that respect. With 12 states having equal marriage, they’re not even recognised at the federal level and no portability in 35 or 38??

      4. and they finally rid themselves of the horrors of British Apartheid

        ‘British’ Apartheid, eh? Does the origin of the word apartheid suggest a British quality to you – or do you consider Afrikaners British?

        You’re welcome to South Africa – I’d rather live somewhere you can walk in safety, even after nightfall.

        1. Oh come on. Just because the Dutch Afrikaners (once again asshats from Europe) instituted apartheid, the Brits benefited greatly from it. Colonialism (The British Empire) is well documented, and most sodomy laws across the world (including in the U.S.) were not created by the natives, but by the anti-sex Brits. You all have exported your anti-gay laws throughout the world in the 1800s and 1900s, and we’re all paying for it now. At least South Africa has a government that supports minorities, the Tories don’t seem to be too keen on passing same sex marriage legislation. Marriage Equality in Uruguay (3 months) Marriage Equality Britain (Still waiting.)

  12. PeterinSydney 15 May 2013, 12:52am

    I hope Brazil embraces marriage equality soon, if possible before the Catholic Circus of World Youth Day, where they will try to indoctrinate the kids against equality.

  13. Christopher Coleman 15 May 2013, 2:44am

    Don’t chastise Parliament too much for taking its time passing the marriage equality law. Britain loves going the long way round. It’s traditional to “muddle through”.

  14. Hint hint, SCOTUS…

  15. MattISaTOOL 15 May 2013, 9:03am

    Thats great.. But i wouldn’t call Brazil as progressive as lets say Australia or UK.. I mean the government is liberal but being around the ‘average’ person you’ll see Brazil is still very conservative (Just like MOST South American nations).. And will all the slum and gang culture their it wouldn’t me my first on the list to move to…

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 15 May 2013, 12:12pm

      Its economy though is far ahead of ours and like Canada, wasn’t affected much by the global financial meltdown. It’s the strongest economy on the Latin American continent.

      Step outside London and other larger cities and you’ll find it a lot more conservative than one thinks which is where the opposition to equal marriage is coming from. Well done, Brazil, it puts our foot-dragging unnecessarily long-winded bureaucracy to shame.

  16. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 15 May 2013, 1:54pm

    Well done Brazil!!!!

    Columbia is next in South America!!!!

    This has been a REMARKABLE month for marriage equality!!!!!

    We all deserve FULL EQUALITY under the law!

    Meanwhile in Australia…. NOTHING

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Both bigots called Julia and Tony are really worried about the election in 100 days time!!!!!!

  17. Well done, Brazil! This sudden shift to federal law comes as a bit of a surprise, but a very welcome one.

  18. Robert in S. Kensington 15 May 2013, 2:11pm

    Very surprise that there was no mention of this in the Guardian online. I wonder why?

  19. This story is confusing. Does this mean gays can marry there now or do we have to wait for legislation? I am shocked that Pinknews didn’t update us on the development there but instead focuses on miniscule developments of organisations and celebrities in the US since they hired the US correspondent.

    1. Brazilians can get married exactly like straight couples (including procedures, inheritance, rights, etc, 100% the same thing).
      Well, until conservative evangelicals change the situation because they are furious and there is a lot of them “working” as politians.

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