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US doctors: New deadly strain of gonorrhea potentially ‘worse than AIDS’

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  1. Buffalo Gough 7 May 2013, 7:01pm

    So no one wants to discuss this, may be it’s because we expected this. We had a chance to bring Safer Sex to the front of everyone’s mind. We started to achieve it to so degree in the late 80’s and 90’s then combination therapy turned up, and since then condoms have gone out of the picture. The porn industry has started to adopt bareback to sell more. There are even websites where you can advertise for bareback sex. How long before we have a multi drug resistant strain of HIV. And if we don’t sit up and pay attention to this, and put Safer Sex back at the top of the agenda, then goodbye us.

    1. Johann Fourie 7 May 2013, 7:39pm

      Buffalo, I caught gon three times last year, each time from safe sex. Condoms are great at keeping blood borne viruses out of our bodies, but unfortunately not very good at keeping bacterial infections at bay. That is because they are easily spread by touch, as occured in all three my infections.

      Nobody puts a condom on the minute you get naked and removes it in a bio-hazard suit when the act is done. People kiss, roll around naked and engage in mutual masturbation. Unfortunately, this is all that is required to transmit the infection. Not to even mention oral sex that very rarely gets performed on a condomed cock. So I’m afraid that the safe sex message is somewhat irrelevant on this ocassion.

      1. Johann, I’m sorry to hear about your experience, but your medical advice is not correct.

        It is true that it is possible to contract gonorrhoea even when condoms are used correctly. But gonorrhoea is particularly likely to be transmitted by genital fluids. Correct use of condoms – including for oral sex – will significantly reduce your chance of infection.

        http://www.tht.org.uk/sexual-health/HIV-STIs/Sexually-transmitted-infections/Gonorrhoea

        1. Johann Fourie 8 May 2013, 2:45pm

          I did not dispense medical advice, as I’m not qualified to do so. I simply shared my experience with you.

          In 20 sexually active years and I’m sorry to have to admit and a huge, huge amount of partners I have not ONCE met a person that requested, insisted or suggested condoms for oral sex.

          Did you know that the Centres for Disease Control in the US, along with nearly all state funded sexual health advice actually teach abstinence as a one of the ways to prevent STI’s? Here in the UK the advice is far more realistic because we know that expecting abstinence from young adults is simply not a viable option.

          The same goes for expecting gay people to use condoms for oral sex.

          Wake up! Its just not going to happen and nothing that you say or suggest will make a difference to this generation.

          And while it is not going to happen, people will be contracting bacterial infections even though they will be using condoms gor penetration.

          As happened to me three times last year.

          1. Rudehamster 9 May 2013, 2:29pm

            It is not spread just by mere touch. Your infections were probably caused by your either swallowing the infection or having smears of the nasty little green gunge on his/your fingers.The ‘touch’ of whatever holds the bacteria (fingers / penis) has to then transfer it to your to your urethral opening, mouth or anus.

            As far as the safe sex message is concerned: it has long been agreed that the best way to reduce your exposure to STD is to wear a condom from the start and throughout. HIV may not be easy to transfer through oral sex, but gonorrrhea is. Oral sex is arguably the most common mode of transfer.

            A small tip for you next time: grab his penis from the base and squeeze firmly right up to the tip. If there is any obvious sign infection, you will have squeezed some discharge out as evidence.

            Point it out to them. Then wash your hands before showing them the door.

    2. Johann Fourie 7 May 2013, 8:09pm

      Buffalo, I caught gon three times last year, each time from safe sex. Condoms are great at keeping blood borne viruses out of our bodies, but unfortunately not very good at keeping bacterial infections at bay. That is because they are easily spread by touch, as occured in all three my infections.

      Nobody puts a condom on the minute you get naked and removes it in a bio-hazard suit when the act is done. People kiss, roll around naked and engage in mutual masturbation. Unfortunately, this is all that is required to transmit the infection. Not to even mention oral sex that very rarely gets performed on a condomed cock. So I’m afraid that the safe sex message is somewhat irrelevant on this ocassion.

      This is the second time that im posting this. Why on earth wasit censored and deleted? Is it an uncomfortable truth?

      1. Johann, keep in mind that for some odd reason one occasionally needs to “reload” or “refresh” a comments page several times before one’s comment appears.

  2. Christopher Kay 7 May 2013, 7:58pm

    Point 1: The theory of evolution predicts that bacteria evolve and will eventually become resistant to current antibiotics.
    Point 2: New antibiotics are released on the market almost every year.
    Point 3: As long as there are new strains of bacteria, drug companies will continue to produce new antibiotics.

    This is not new, and has been a constant process of disease control since 1928 when penicillin was patented.

    1. Johann Fourie 7 May 2013, 8:12pm

      Please report my duplicate post and apologies. There seems to have been a problem with my browser.

      1. Johann Fourie 7 May 2013, 8:31pm

        Delete not report.

    2. There is no guarantee that bacteria will eventually become resistant to a given antibiotic. As a bit of a reductio ad absurdum, I’d like to see bacteria develop resistance to an incinerator. The process also happens slower than you seem to be suggesting – penicillin is still widely used, for example. A species of bacteria becoming resistant to a particular antibiotic can cause major problems.

      1. Spanner1960 8 May 2013, 12:25am

        It is not the fact that they become resistant to an antibiotic, it is simply they mutate into something else and so the antibiotic becomes ineffective.
        Evolution does adapt to external influences to a certain degree, but it is far more simply the case there are new variants appearing all the time.
        Also, bear in mind the fact that complex life forms contain trillions of cells and do not reproduce that often whereas microbes are single cells that can multiply many times in just a few hours, meaning there is a much higher chance of a viable mutation appearing.

    3. Spanner1960 8 May 2013, 12:20am

      Why are people flagging this down? I think Christopher’s statement is totally spot on.

      1. LeatherNun 8 May 2013, 1:58pm

        Christopher’s points are all wrong. If everything is hunky-dory why are public health officials, including the World Health Organisation, warning about antibiotic resistance ? If the next super antibiotic is only a year or two away why are they worried ?

        1. Christopher Kay 8 May 2013, 3:43pm

          Listen, don’t get your knickers in a twist. Yes, many species of bacteria are resistant to many different antibiotics. But new antibiotics are always being developed. Don’t worry your head about genetics, evolution or other “sciency” things; it’s obviously not your strong point. Just leave it to these guys, yeah? They know what they’re doing sweetie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISXX4RRIm8o

    4. Maccus Curia 11 May 2013, 5:06pm

      Oh that’s okay then – carry on infecting one another.

  3. Which doctors are declaring that the new strain of gonhorrhea MIGHT be worse than AIDS? The article mentions the US National Coalition of STD Directors. What is that? Who funds it?

    Does it have connections to Big Pharma?

    This article doesn’t clarify this.

    It might be pertinent information.

    1. Harlequin 8 May 2013, 3:12am

      The ‘doctor’ in question appears to be this bloke: http://dralanchristianson.com . As for his speciality, see James’s comment below.

      The board of directors of NCSD (whose Executive Director, William Smith, provided the quote about it being able to kill “in a matter of days”) is listed here: http://www.ncsddc.org/who-we-are/board . They mostly seem to hold management and directorial positions in state health departments.

      1. And that must be the most confusing downvote I’ve ever received.

  4. “Alan Christianson, a doctor of naturopathic medicine, told CNBC.”

    Seriously? Naturopathy? You are basing this on the testimony of a doctor who believes illnesses are caused by an imbalance of some kind of magical life energy?

  5. Spanner1960 8 May 2013, 12:18am

    I have to be honest here, I was unaware Gonorrhoea could be lethal, or have things changed?

    1. Harlequin 8 May 2013, 3:16am

      Same here. I would have thought that the existence of a lethal strain would have become public knowledge long before it also became antibiotic-resistant.

  6. Harlequin 8 May 2013, 2:58am

    “… gay and bisexual men are more likely to catch gonorrhoea.”

    Errm… Why? And according to whom?

    1. moral.. compass..... 8 May 2013, 12:56pm

      Due to the fact that they are far more promicuous and risk taking. Did you konw for instance that AIDS is 50 times more likely in homosexual males than hetero/normal males?
      Just imagine a word where every male was gay. AIDS would threaten to wipe out humanity before they naturally disappeared duo to the fact that homosexual couples cannot breed.

      1. Christopher Kay 8 May 2013, 3:45pm

        you f*cking moron.
        I hope to god that you never breed.

        1. Rudehamster 9 May 2013, 2:13pm

          OK moral cumprat,
          They really did a cracking job with that lobotomy, so let me put it in a basic form so that your lowly homophobic intelligence can understand it:

          YOU ARE BEING A BIGOT AND A FOOL

          ‘Normal males’ indeed. You’ve obviously no clue about gay male sexuality outside what you’ve read in the Daily Mail.

          If you really need to be told where you’re wrong, there is little hope of the information wading through the sludge of your partially-fired synapses, far less you actually being able to understand your mistakes.

          Please feel free to never stick your bigoted little beak out of the burrow again, unless you’ve done a great deal of homework and eaten the same weight of humble pie as the excrement you’ve just posted.

          Any clearer?

      2. Maccus Curia 11 May 2013, 5:05pm

        Well said!

      3. Li Thotomist 13 May 2013, 9:57am

        Erm, in a world where every man was gay, the species would die out anyway through lack of reproduction….. but it’d be one heck of a party on the way out !

  7. I was relieved to read that this new deadly strain originates in Japan…Now the likes of Mr Fisher and his homophobic cronies can revert to type and also blame the “yellow peril” for the inevitable downfall of mankind.

  8. I have never heard of gonorrhoea killing men, only women through Pelvic Inflammatory Disease, so it is unlikely to kill men.
    Saying that it could potentially be worse than AIDS is extremely irresponsible and scare-mongering. Yes, gonorrhoea is very easy to transmit but the evidence strongly suggests it will just be harder to cure rather than impossible. Drug resistant gonorrhoea means treatment will involve more drugs for a longer period of time until a new drug becomes available.

  9. Maccus Curia 11 May 2013, 5:02pm

    Are you people serious?

    Catching gonorrhea once is a year is haps tunate but three times! One trusts all partners before and after these infections were contacted and informed.

    And can you get infected from oral sex?! And does it really kill?! And we’ll develop another drug soon to combat it?!

    How irresponsible and naive. It kills; its nasty; its highly infectious; itsdeveloping resistance to antibiotics and it can be caught in a variety of ways.

    Wise up and if you can’t stay monogamous then for goodness sake cover up and keep your mouths away from those areas that can’t be!

    1. Here’s an idea. Stop being a whore and work at being in some sort of monogamous relationship. Your arguments posted here about the science of this and that are showing the rest of the world that we are this diseased population that deserves what it gets. Ask yourself if you are actually capable of that. Monogamy. Its what’s for dinner.

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