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Senior Tory Councillor: It is a shame that some voters have gone to UKIP over equal marriage

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  1. … and a LOT more deserted the Tories and voted for UKIP because of gross misinformation and false fears about immigration! Racism, sadly, is alive and well!!

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 7 May 2013, 2:30pm

      UKIP is notorious for exploiting fear, especially among the under-educated. What they don’t realise is that up until 2009, they were drawing more support from Labour supporters according to an article by Robert Ford of the Guardian.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/06/ukip-5-things-people-get-wrong

  2. Jock S. Trap 7 May 2013, 2:03pm

    Indeed it is also a shame that those people are not very educated then, isn’t it!

  3. People really need to look long-term about these things.

    The current government have implemented a Bill that is currently going through the Houses. It got majority support from MPs across all parties. If it is passed and becomes law it will positively affect thousands of people for many years to come. (And will likely help the economy somewhat.)

    Pandering to a minority of voters, and removing the Bill, simply to stay in power for another four or five years affects the Conservatives *for another four or five years only*.

    Thinking short-term is irrelevant to the future.

  4. Robert in S. Kensington 7 May 2013, 2:24pm

    There is no way the government are going to drop the equal marriage bill which would guarantee a Tory defeat in 2015 anyway. If there was so much Tory disaffection with their party, UKIP would have gained far more Tory dissidents. How would UKIP explain why Labour gained 291 seats, a party which voted for equal marriage by more than two thirds, the largest. I’ve noticed that not one Tory opposing MP has resigned or defected if it’s such a contentious issue for them, aside from the power and privileges they enjoy, but I wonder why none have? I don’t see any of the Lords resigning over it either. Not even Tebbit could bring himself to throw in the towel and give up his seat.

    1. Godric Godricson 7 May 2013, 3:33pm

      The grass roots Tories are angry and this anger isn’t acknowledged by the ruling elite in any way. The rank and file are frothing at the mouth with rage! There is no logic to any of this blather from the grass roots. The only truth for them is that equal marriage must go and go now……Cameron’s days are numbered because Tories dislike defeats and in his abrupt fall we could see the death of current equality legislation.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 7 May 2013, 4:09pm

        They came into power with a very slim majority, a hung parliament. There are always losses in a mid-term government, no matter if its Labour or Tory. Equal marriage is going forward. The Tories’ days are numbered anyway and even more so if they were to drop equal marriage not because of it but because of the economy, austerity measures, the EU and immigration reform. EM is just another convenient excuse to throw in. They didn’t exactly defect to the UKIP in droves did they and still don’t have one MP in Parliament, not that that would be significant. They’re going to need far more to have any impact on the other two parties.

  5. I think a lot more “voters may feel pushed away from the party ” if they move more towards the UKIP party and undertake somkind of pact with the UKIP party …..

    It’s taken 13 yrs for anybody in the UK to trust theTories in govt again and despite Labour leaving the economy in a poor state and having a fairly undynamic leader under Gordon Brown, they still couldn’t be trusted enough to get a majority govt.

    I for one still remember the old Tories and talks of moving towards UKIP type policies scare the pants off me…SSM was a pleasant surprise and made me think the party had truly modernised. I hope Cameron doesn’t disappoint and back down on this one.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 7 May 2013, 4:02pm

      Cameron isn’t going to back down, john. If he did, it would surely guarantee utter defeat in 2015. Don’t forget, they only came into power by forming a coalition in a hung parliament and equal marriage wasn’t even a controversial issue at the time, in spite of it appearing in the Contract for Equalities alongside the manifesto shortly before the election, so it wasn’t as if nobody didn’t know about it, public knowledge in fact yet they still won narrowly. This entire EM controversy is a red herring more than anything opposed by a smaller minority thankfully both in and outside of Parliament. The consultation proved the point and so did the vote on February 5th which was huge, larger than any country where it is legal.

  6. Michael 2912 7 May 2013, 3:28pm

    I live in Leicestershire. I’m a life-long Labour supporter and longtime party member so I didn’t vote for this guy and have no idea who he is. Notwithstanding that: Thank you sir. You’ve done and said the right thing. We need more people like you in local and national politics. You ever thought of changing sides?

  7. I too am a sitting Conservative Councillor and I have to say, I sincerely hope that any narrow minded voters who is against Equal Marriage don’t vote for me. I REALLY don’t want to represent them and I certainly don’t want their support to get in to office. I would rather lose the election than get it with the support of bigots.

  8. Well they didn’t vote for UKIP then did they? Why bother traipsing all the way to pole booth only spoil their chance at voting at all. Anyway, who’s to say they were ever conservative voters in the first place? Eejits.

  9. … just goes to prove the old adage: “Once a Tory, always an old bigot”. Scarey to think that Farrage (French immigrant name ..?) has taken over anti-gay issue where rabid old homophobes like Norman Tebbit (Tory) left off. Homophobia is safe in the hands of UKIP. Oh dear.

  10. Wow, UKIP sounds terrible! They’re like U.S. Republicans, though ultimately the Republican Party still seems further to the right.

  11. how much is how many 3, 5, 100 1000

    As he does not say how many , it is not worth worrying about. Half a million signed a petition and that did nothing

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