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Eight professional footballers reputed to be out to PFA, but won’t go public for fear of fan reactions

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  1. That There Other David 5 May 2013, 1:24pm

    One of these names will be brave enough at some point. It’s coming, especially after American sports stars have now taken the step and received pretty much universal support.. Whenever they’re ready we’ll be there in support.

  2. Some gays are footballers. Get over it.

  3. Michael Felse 5 May 2013, 2:33pm

    As Manchester Pride Queen 2011 let me say it takes a brave gay to come out as gay. The great support group “Just A Ball Game?” would no doubt offer free peer patron membership for any professional footballer that needs friends around at the time they decide going LGBT public. No need to stand alone – share the pain and make the world a better inclusive place for all.

    1. ColinJones 5 May 2013, 4:58pm

      No wonder they wouldn’t come out if they had to endure the embarassment of being called a queen, why the hell do we still use that silly effeminate word.

      1. because if it happens in londonland then it speaks for the whole country, innit (as the vernacular goes).

  4. They should all grow a pair. People are so pathetic about coming out.

  5. Spanner1960 5 May 2013, 6:13pm

    I can understand their reticence – sport is one of the last bastions of homophobia, and soccer is probably the worst. It will change in time, but it does need some brave man to stick their head above the parapet.

    One thought that crossed my mind was if the PFA are already aware of these people, maybe it can organise a “coming out party” for all of them – this would alleviate pressure on individuals, and show a strength of force, whilst demonstrating this is not just an isolated circumstance. If all eight stood up together, they may well get a lot more in the closet to open up too.

  6. Spanner1960 5 May 2013, 6:19pm

    You are right, it is not important to these guys that they are gay, but unfortunately it seems to matter to a lot of other people.
    It’s all very easy for you to sit back and make remarks like that, but until you are in the situation where you are constantly living a lie you can have no concept of the ramifications of something which is actually a very personal matter; The alternative is to be open, and then become a target for everything from snide remarks to bullying and possibly worse.
    Just look at the abuse a lot of black players get, and they cannot hide their colour, when gay guys do the same, you can be sure they will get serious stick for it.

    1. Spanner1960 5 May 2013, 8:26pm

      Precisely what difference does ones annual earnings have to do with this?
      Does it make it any easier to take the spiteful jibes and nasty comments if you can afford a Ferrari instead a Fiesta?
      And also, this 50k a week thing is a fallacy, only the top end people get the big bucks.
      The majority are on far more humble incomes like the rest of us.

      1. Spanner1960 5 May 2013, 11:22pm

        “Any homophobia is low key today. ”
        How the hell would you know? What homophobia have you experienced recently?
        Just look through the articles both home and abroad at the malicious spite, beatings and even killings of LGBT people just because of their sexuality.

        You are talking out of your arse, sir.

    2. Spanner1960 5 May 2013, 8:28pm

      I’m having a for more balanced and civilised debate with this guy than I have with a lot of the other overly-sensitive leftie queens on here.
      With enemies like this, who needs friends?

  7. Kelvin Beer-Jones 5 May 2013, 6:55pm

    Odd we ‘worry’ about the reaction of the fans. Elton John seems to have a happy time of it at Watford and the fans love him. I think the boys are protesting too much

  8. footballers should just be allowed to be themselves and let their talents speak for themselves. sadly britain is a narrow-minded country that look to footballers to be role-models for their children (and tattoos!). if i were gay and a professional football player, i would probably just stay in the closet and only come out when i was retiring like robbie rogers. until such times as the fans are educated (and society at large!) that being gay has nothing to do with effeminacy, and everything to do with just being human, it will always be the case that their career options will be limited after coming out in the so-called macho world of divers, biters and hackers…

    1. That There Other David 6 May 2013, 9:31am

      The vast majority of football fans actually don’t care either way. To us it’s all about the performance of the player. The only off-pitch activities we care about is that they don’t do anything that may then affect their ability whilst playing.

      The tabloid press are the ones that have fostered this pro footballer as celebrity nonsense, mostly it seems to encourage brain dead teenage girls that if they can’t become instant stars on X Factor they can at least sleep their way to the lifestyle they want.

      As for macho, openly gay men serve quite happily in the armed services. That’s a far more macho career than any sportsman manages.

    2. Spanner1960 6 May 2013, 10:00am

      The problem is, everybody expects a macho football player to be seen with sexy chicks hanging off their arms. If they don’t, then there is something seriously amiss.
      Football is such big business today that people want to know EVERYTHING about players, and that can sometimes come at too high a price.

  9. Colin (London) 6 May 2013, 2:21am

    Yes they need to make their own decisions as they are the ones who will live with the consequences.

    Look I’ve lost 2 senior jobs due to being gay. One with an MD shouting you gay bastard in an open plan office. The other a public company and i was on the Board.

    However in the last company I never told anyone I was gay and there were clearly others. It was the first time in my life and I’m just in my 50’s that I did not have to be careful. I was asked by an 18 yo and said yes. No issue.

    If some people don’t come out then the prejudice will stay. When others come out their mates, colleagues family realise that they still love us as they did before. They then laugh at themselves for holding beliefs that they were given by society, schools, parents, churches etc. I live in London as it’s easy for gay people but around the country it’s still patchy.

    I’d suggest that the football players wait until SSM bill gets passed. This is an enormous change for society and part of a world change.

    1. Spanner1960 6 May 2013, 10:02am

      I seriously hope you took those people to a tribunal.
      I would have ripped them a new arsehole.

  10. That There Other David 6 May 2013, 9:22am

    If it truly didn’t matter those footballers who are gay would be out, and nobody would care. That reality is so different to that means that fear of exposure still exists within football. That’s a good decade behind the rest of society. That’s why it matters.

    1. Hypercube 6 May 2013, 2:18pm

      Yep. Bigots posting rubbish about “gay agendas” and lying that no significant national homophobia exists simply demonstrate that our work is all the more necessary. These people, of course, don’t want footballers to come out en masse, because then they can no longer claim (or imply) that gay men can’t play sport, are not “real men” and thus are inferior and deserving of the discrimination that they so desperately push to retain.

      So, the bigots want gay people to stay in the closet (at their own expense) so that they can continue to push homophobia and persuade gullible idiots that gay people “don’t do” things like football because they’re “lesser beings”. They also fight equal marriage because they know that’ll bring about normalisation and acceptance too. How unpleasant they are. Why don’t they mind their own business and deal with issues that affect their own lives instead?

      What exactly is this “gay agenda” anyway? And why do only homophobes ever mention it? Not ANOTHER lie surely?

      1. Hypercube 6 May 2013, 2:32pm

        And how “clever” of him to claim that it “doesn’t matter” if you’re gay, then have a go at anyone who “announces they’re gay” in a situation where unless you say you’re gay everyone assumes you’re straight. Clever, clever little homophobe. He doesn’t care if people are gay, he just has a problem with them *communicating* that they’re gay in any way whatsoever. Not like that’s the same thing as far as everyone but the gay person is concerned, or anything, is it?

        Of course it wouldn’t be necessary for these people to continually use such sneaky and pathetic tactics if there was any scientific, objective substance behind their spoutings, as opposed to, say, I don’t know, irrational hatred, combined with an unbelievably self-centred wish to make everyone else go along with that hatred, instead of being quietly ashamed of it as they should be. To be so up yourself that you want everyone else to pretend that no gay people exist, just for the primitive comfort of you and other bigots…wow.

  11. It would be absolutely wonderful if there was a way for all eight of them to come out at once, together, on the same day. That would be a stunning cornerstone and if there was a lot of nasty flak to be had from chanting fans, there would be strength, or rather moral support, in numbers from seven others in the same boat.

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