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Coalition for Marriage: David Cameron’s support for equal marriage explains the rise of UKIP

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  1. Jock S. Trap 1 May 2013, 4:48pm

    Pure ignorance. Seems it worth them forgetting that the democracy of the House of Commons got the Bill through because the Lib Dems support it too.

    It’s a weak argument and a nasty one to blame marriage equality but then from these people what do you expect.

    Fact is the majority of the public support this bill so the UKip party (BNP no longer in disguise) and it’s so called ‘supporters’ can go jump somewhere nasty themselves.

    ComRes know if you ask a certain question to the right audience that’ll get the poll they want. For the Telegraph and the Daily Mail it’s hardly surprising such polls are hyped.

  2. I think we know all about these Com Res polls by now.

    Still, we don’t have to wait long to find out!

  3. Chester666666 1 May 2013, 4:54pm

    UKIP arose for immigration and racist hatred
    This claim is yet another lie from the homophobes who think that gays are behind everything that ever happens no matter what

  4. I think that is basically what Melanie Phillips believes. But we all know how wrong she was about MMR – and that had pretty nasty consequences for lots of people.

    Ms Phillips on BBCQT a few weeks ago –

  5. If equal marriage is such a big issue then surely UKIP would be streets ahead as Labour and Lib Dems also support Equal Marriage.

    Still it is the C4M, the group that supports free speech and actively campaigns against any attempt to stifle debate. Unless you’re on their FB page and disagree with them of course. Morons

  6. Robert in S. Kensington 1 May 2013, 4:56pm

    Bull-shite! C4M spin as usual. As if ComRes is a reliable source for polling statistics and to this day has refused to divulge its methodology for the C4M’s anti equal marriage petition, among others.

  7. I’m afraid the main reason for UKIP seeming to be popular is the irresponsible amount of media coverage they’ve been getting – largely care of the BBC

    1. And yes, COMRes poll data is not very reliable when it comes to “christian” concerns

  8. No it doesn’t. Most people UKIP voters or not couldn’t give a shit about equal marriage, unless they A want to get one or B are in a tiny minority of bigots.

    The “rise” of UKIP can not be explained by a tiny minority of bigots. People are disillusioned with the three big parties and are looking for an alternative or protest voting. This is the same reason why George Galloway is an MP and why we have a coalition government.

    1. Spot on. Imagine people who are worried about their jobs, mortgages, debts, lying awake worrying about “gay marriage”? Ridiculous.

  9. UKIP’s decision to become a far-right, populist political party rather than a single-issue campaign group has unquestionably won it votes. It will do well at this election and, I suspect, at the next general election.

    Colin Hart’s comments about Lady Thatcher are far better aimed to Nigel Farage. UKIP cynically took the opportunity to be “liked” by the Tory right’s refuseniks. But in the long run there is no future in this kind of petty divisiveness. Britain has never wanted a mainstream far-right party. UKIP has sought – and may well achieve – some measure of political power, but does so at the expense of its core message.

    Meanwhile David Cameron has stuck with this policy despite its unpopularity with his own party because he thinks it’s necessary to detach Conservative philosophy from right-wing identity politics. It was always a huge gamble (which I think will fail), but it is about ideology and policy, not about vote-grabbing.

  10. UKIP is trending on Twitter in the UK at the moment. The party is very good at getting their supporters out. We need as many people as possible to counter their efforts.

    1. Spanner1960 2 May 2013, 12:27pm

      Why? Would you rather support a bunch of liars?
      In light of this onslaught by UKIP, Cameron is now backing down and offering a referendum in 2018.
      He must think we are as stupid as he is.

      1. What makes you think that if UKIP got into power that they’d be more honest than any other party?

  11. I can bet the majority of straight people really don’t care.

  12. backdoorfascism 1 May 2013, 6:49pm

    Remember to contact the police and name the UKIP Councillor if you’re denied any public service.

  13. Yeah right, it has nothing to do with the economy, unemployment, social services, schools, tax, cuts to welfare, immigration etc etc. They think it’s because of marriage equality. Stupid right wing idiots.

  14. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 7:43pm

    What complete and utter COCK.
    This is just a false cause logical fallacy.

    Just because the Tories are pro same-sex marriage, and UKIP are anti does not mean that is the primary factor behind the shift.

    The answer is plain and simple: successive governments have offered referendums, and then lied and backpedalled when it came to the crunch. People are sick to the back teeth of these people licking the EU’s arse. THAT is why people are moving across in their droves.

    You had the chance and you blew it.

  15. This coalition Against marriage as that is what they are, should consider that any protest vote for ukip, maybe frustration of some of the public with the governments austerity cuts, lack of housing, overcrowding, inadequate justice system and un controlled immigration. I doubt anyone with half a braincell is worried bout 2 gays making a commitment when they are in fuel poverty, trying to put bread on the table, unable to afford buying a home or even rent one etc. This coalition against marriage are obviously for complete idiots, their rhetoric is embarrassing and a slant on conservative voters .

  16. First they came for the communists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

    Then they came for the immigrants,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t an immigrant.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.

    1. Spanner1960 2 May 2013, 12:29pm

      Nobody would speak for a leftie pinko whinger like you anyway.

      1. Are you still afraid of befriending gipsies Spanner? What about gays?

  17. Are UKIP a fascist, extreme right wing party?

    What is now not debatable is that they are attracting people who are. You have to ask yourself why that is and do intelligent, rational UKIP supporters feel uneasy about being associated with such people?

    Interesting piece from Alan Sked.

    1. The founder of UKIP.

    2. Dig deeper. Do not be afraid of asking : “Is the British an essentially racist, extreme right wing culture?”. Do you think the appearance of the KKK and the apartheid system in places colonised by Britain are only a matter of coincidence? Of course not. The whole nation has been in denial mode and its criticism of Nazzi Germany is only skin deep. Racism, Nationalism, Xenophobia and Fascism are all part and parcel of the British psyche, and are now rearing their ugly heads once again, as easily political exploitable traits. And many “conservative” gay peeps are promoting and enjoying this extremist resurgence. It has all happened before, and has been predicted.

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