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  1. UKIP LGBT group: ‘We really need more candidates from the socially liberal side of society’

    So not UKIP supporters then

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:26pm

      Count myself as socially LIberal and will be voting UKIP this time. I’m not sure about some of their policies, but don’t find them too outrageous. They do get loonies, but so do for example the Greens. I’m in favour of equal marriage, but not rabidly so. I can see why some don’t like it and think it’s a comparitively moderate step forward that isn’t that necessary. I suspect you have never had to put up with 20yrs unemployment while people enter the country from all over and get work. Perhaps that might change your mind if you were me! labour etc do nothing and the others are worse, and the LGBT’s attitude frankly downright stinks – selfishness only.

      1. “People put up with 20 years unemployment while people enter the country from all over the place and get work.”

        You for real?

        Listen, friend, I wish no harm, but I run my own company and employ staff and I can tell you first hand that were it not for ‘people coming from all over’ we wouldn’t have a business.

        You think the average Union Jack chav will spend 12 hours a day on a fruit or veg farm picking crop with their bare hands on the minimum wage?

        You think the average UK long term unemployed is there because someone came into the country and essentially took their job?

        Well if this is the case,the UK national certainly didn’t put up much of a fight.

        In my experience, many of those who complain about others taking their jobs wouldn’t get their over-indulged State-sponsored arses out of bed to do the very jobs they blame the immigrants for taking from them.

        But dream on and I wish you well voting for Mr Farrage and Co.

        1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:14pm

          Usual plain ignorance from the present political status quo. Where exactly is the evidence for what you are saying? I got a strangulated hernia, and had to have an emergency op while working in the NHS. After that there was no work. I got a number of good refs from placements, I did the Morrisby profile intelliegence tests and got 100%, 97%, 92,93,92, 85, and my lowest two percentages 72% manual speed and dextrity. I don’t have the right connections so I have spent 20yrs on Incap. Perhaps before you call people liars you should actually investigate what is the truth rather like those bigots who won’t accept the truth of being LGBT. I call you a selfish political stooge only interested in facts that will support your own bigoted bill. You couldn’t give a xxxxx about a certain parto of the population, yet you expect them to care about you!

      2. That There Other David 30 Apr 2013, 9:32pm

        Personally if I’d been out of work for 20 years I’d have the grace to admit it’s down to me doing something wrong. You can retrain completely in 3 years. People from all sections of society do it all the time. What are you waiting for, someone to just notice you for who you are?

        20 years and it’s someone else’s fault? Seriously?

        1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:42pm

          Yeah you can retrain and be reliable and even come top in your exams, but if you have a pile of say 50 people with no health probs and five who have a health difficultu who exactly do you think they are going to employ? Get real. I was joint top of my class in driving instructor training, but funding was pulled half way through. In doing a drama degree a transsexual was played by a heterosexual man. Despite being better qualified the transsexual was left with no part at all. I can give many other examples. As a gay man are you honestly saying you think there is no such thing as prejudice!

          1. That There Other David 30 Apr 2013, 9:50pm

            I’m saying, as a gay man who has experienced prejudice in the workplace, that prejudice can be overcome. All it takes is the right attitude.

            I believe your employment problems are down to a large chip on your shoulder that possibly comes across in interviews. It certainly comes across in your posts here today. Either way, you still need to look at yourself as to why you were unemployed throughout the late 90s and 00s.

          2. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:56pm

            I think that if I had been Gay for 20yrs I’d have got over it by now. All your excuses just show your being gay is just really down to that huge chip on your shoulder!

          3. That There Other David 30 Apr 2013, 9:59pm

            LOL. It’s not my fault I’m gay. It’s those damn immigrants.


          4. Or perhaps just a social upbringing problem you won’t face, and instead put it down to a biological or unchanging upbringing thing?

          5. That There Other David 30 Apr 2013, 10:04pm

            I can see why you would vote UKIP. You’re not right in the head are you? :-D

          6. High level honourable thought there! Can see what you are by your resort to insults the minute you’ve exausted bigoted logic. Happily as a transsexual I can say I’ve seen a number of psychiatrists and every single one regarded me a completely sane. Got any more insults you might like to throw out simply because my views don’t agree with yours, you nice person you?

          7. That There Other David 30 Apr 2013, 11:49pm

            There is no logic in your posts, that’s sort of the point. In several posts you berate others for their selfishness, yet in another come across as disdainful of my friends and colleagues who have achieved their careers despite living with their own disabilities. It’s almost as if you resent others who succeed despite having far more valid excuses not to try than your own. My friends aren’t tokens, or there to make up any numbers. These are people I am proud to know. They are worthy of respect, and if you weren’t intent on carrying around that undeserved sense of superiority you insist on inflicting on everyone you would realise that you are only hurting yourself with your attitude towards others.

            Now, I’m sure you’ll come back with some smart derisory comment or attack rather than taking that in. However, I won’t be reading it. You see, I have work in the morning so I’m going to bed. Think about that.

      3. There are more British people living abroad than there are foreigners living in Britain. Your belief that your inability to find work is caused by immigration is irrational. UKIP’s policies are outrageous to the core – we are talking about a party that wants to start a massive expansion of the military while cutting taxes to near zero. And you are honestly accusing all LGBT people of being selfish while promising to try and vote a bunch of deranged homophobes and xenophobes into power just because you imagine you might get a job out of it?

    2. “LGBTQ in UKIP”: Because gays can be racists too.

  2. Dave North 30 Apr 2013, 5:19pm

    ‘We really need more candidates from the socially liberal side of society’

    You never will.

    All UKIP seems to be is a party where the bigoted morons disaffected by the socially enlightened policies of the other mainstream parties congregate to fester in their own prejudices.

    Candidates from the “socially liberal” side of society wouldn’t touch UKIP with a bargepole.

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:28pm

      Is it socially Liberal to leave parts of your society with a degree and good refs without work for years and then bring in lots of migrants? It’s pro-migration but not socially liberal.

      1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:16pm

        Truth hurts? Don’t want to hear it? Go join those hetero bigots with the same attitude. If you weren’t Gay you just be a bigoted far right xxxx wouldn’t you!

        1. That There Other David 30 Apr 2013, 9:36pm

          Yes yes, we understand you’re another UKIP employee paid to trawl the web and make out the party stands for something worth voting for.

          But you’re not fooling anyone. Toddle off love.

          1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:45pm

            I am not a UKIP member or employee, as I said I will be voting UKIP on Thursday. I am a former member of Labour and the LIbdems, both care nothing about Trans rights, Labour even reduced rights already existing. I have neve been a member of the CONs.

    2. I think spanner has a new name.

      The twat

      1. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 3:22pm

        Screw you. I don’t need other identities.
        This is the first I have seen of this thread.

  3. This is a joke, yes?

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:29pm

      Or is your understanding of the subject perhaps weaker than you imagine?

      1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:18pm

        I think actually given the total lack of concern or sympahty for mine or other plight I will be as selfish as you and stop bothering about Gay rights. Reap what you sow.

        1. We’re all doomed.

  4. Michael 2912 30 Apr 2013, 5:34pm

    ‘Scuse me. Have I missed something. Why would a socially illiberal party want more socially liberal members. Does the RC church want more gay and lesbian members? Does the Nazi party want more Jewish members? Does the Ku Klux Klan want more black members? Like I said: have I missed something?

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:31pm

      Perhaps they tend to attract those to the right of the Con party but know they should in theory appeal to some liberals? The comparisons to other groups you mention just look rather bigoted.

      1. Michael 2912 1 May 2013, 8:47am

        I’m not sure where the appearance of bigotry comes from as I understand that term. The point I make is that as an avowedly socially conservative (let’s dispense with “illiberal”) political grouping it is simply perverse for UKIP to invite social liberals into its fold. Their views on LGBT rights are not unknown and those who’ve criticised them from within are roundly criticised. It strikes me as bizarre that there is a UKIB LGBT group at all and suggests that some people aren’t making the connections that they should and appreciate that there’s more to UKIP than a desire for UK independence. Their vision is one that harks back to less tolerant and inclusive times. They dislike the “stranger within” as much as the “stranger without”. It’s ugly and, I suggest, on all fours with the others groups that I mentioned and which you take exception to.

  5. Socially liberal people wouldn’t join that rabble.

  6. Hodge Podge 30 Apr 2013, 6:12pm

    I know Thomas Booker from uni. Nice guy actually. Should probably leave UKIP.

  7. Robert in S. Kensington 30 Apr 2013, 6:19pm

    I have NO sympathy for this UKIP LGBT group, absolutely none. Supporting a party that is anti-equal marriage speaks a lot about who they really are. I hope more UKIP members continue with their anti-gay rants to bring these idiots to their senses. It’s a party of hate and those gay supporters are just token members to put a false, tolerant face on their party when in fact the opposite is true. They have no shame and certainly no integrity. It’s a joke that they believe they’re libertarians and want less government in their lives, yet they want big government to ban gays marrying. Hypocrisy of the worst kind.

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:33pm

      Let me put it simply for you. 20years unemployment due to unlimited migration is more important to me than equal marriage, though I am weakly in favour of equal marriage. I will vote UKIP on Thursday.

      1. so let me get this straight: you support UKIP because you’re a bigoted racist?

        1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:27pm

          Or you think this of me because you are a bigoted racist, supposedly able to understand that other might have different opinions to you, but in fact just flinging out shallow labels at anybodys opinion you don’t like. I have given money many times in the past to try to alleviate the suffering of other racists, and once, probably unlike you you selfish xxxxx gave up my favourite choclate, nestle, to try to stop them using child labour. You just are trying to make me a stereotype. I have given up meat now for 30 years to stop animal suffering. What are your sacrifices to try to stop others suffering?

      2. Are you saying you’ve been unemployed for 20 years? And if so, are you seriously putting the blame for that on workers from other countries? Many of those 20 years occurred during the boom years. What on earth were you doing wrong in order not to get any kind of employment!

        1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:31pm

          Let me put this simply for you. Figures in the UK ar fiddled. Unemployment is actually nearer 6 million. When jobs are advertised they get lots of applicants. In Liverpool they got 3000 applicants for 60 jobs. When they filter the pile are you trying to say that a health problem like Asthma a nd a badly repaired (cheaply on NHS) won’t get you pulled out of the pile? Just assume lies even though you have no evidence – how honourable!

      3. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:22pm

        No I support UKIP because those who benefited from migration have ignored the suffering of those of us who have suffered terribly for you wonderfully “kind” and “liberal” attitudes. I will return the favour now and pay no consideration Gay rights. Selfishness deserves selfishness in return. I am not against migration, in fact I’m in favour but a reasonable limited amount. Like a party political type you try constantly to misreppresent, and to make your lies my opinion.

        1. Michael 2912 1 May 2013, 8:55am

          I’m sorry if you’ve been employed for so long but I think your understanding of the cause of your situation is flawed. You’re clearly adamant that your view is correct so I won’t try to persuade you otherwise but as someone raised in the North East who saw the mining industry destroyed (and not by Arthir Scargill) and the steel industry while financial services were allowed free rein I place responsibility for your plight elsewhere entirely: God rest her soul. If you expect Nigel Farage to give you a job you’re heading for disappointment.

        2. Dave North 1 May 2013, 9:51am

          Perhaps your just unemployable.

          With an attitude like yours I would not be surprised.

  8. “we really need more candidates from the socially liberal side of the society”

    Is this qusiling speak for “shit, I’m surrounded by homophobes!”?

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:39pm

      I don’t think you need a degree in Literature to work out it means the person thinks they have to many illeberal members.

      1. Jane McQueen 1 May 2013, 12:43am

        I don’t think they do, I am yet to meet one UKIP member who actually supports any policy that could be described in the slightest bit socially liberal. In fact they actually sacked the elected head of their youth wing for saying that marriage equality was a good thing and he supported it.

        As well as some UKIP MEP’s actually voted against a policy in the European Parliament to outlaw female genital mutilation.

  9. UKIP LGBT group?

    Sounds just like black members of the KKK.

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:40pm

      That’s just bigotry.

      1. says the man who blames his problems on immigration.

        pot, meet kettle.

        1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:34pm

          So what would you say th eprobs are down to for somebody after 25 got excellent refs from voluntary work and training, got a degree, came top of the class training to be driving instructor? (before funding pulled half way through. Ignorant people meet the truth about your country and beliefs.

          1. maybe you’re just a twat who blows his job interviews because nobody can stand you?
            have you THOUGHT a bit that maybe your difficulties are actually YOUR fault?
            have you thought that maybe your own attitude is what puts potential employers off?
            no, I didn’t think so.
            You’d much rather blame other people.
            well, have fun finding a job.

    2. de Villiers 1 May 2013, 8:08am

      The KKK murdered and tortured black people.

  10. Maybe the LGBT people of UKIP should join another political party that isn’t homophobic?

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:41pm

      And leave UKIP homophobic rather than putting in the hrd work to explain more moderate policicies?

    2. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 3:24pm

      What would you suggest?

      1. GingerlyColors 1 May 2013, 3:55pm

        For someone who has been called a homophobic bigot, you seem to do quite well on the old scoreboard, coming second behind Robert in S. Kensington. A pint of Black Dragon will be on me when we eventually meet at the Tunnel!

        1. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 4:19pm

          Shout me when you are up this way, name a date and time and I’ll chip up.

        2. Arrow scoring doesn’t mean a thing.

          What matters is the truth and facts,

  11. “we really need more candidates from the socially liberal side of the society” !


    You need to cross over into the socially liberal side of society then, matey, and ditch the narrow-minded Little Englanders of UKIP!

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:44pm

      Narrow minded for you, but perhaps like many have not experienced the problem of being Gay others have not experienced the unfair and negative side of uncontrolled migration? Anybody with a health condition has had years of unemployment as a result, and people like you just don’t care. You’re just interested in what affects you.

      1. That There Other David 30 Apr 2013, 9:40pm

        “Anybody with a health condition has had years of unemployment as a result, and people like you just don’t care”

        I know someone paralysed from the waist down, someone who is blind, and someone who can hardly breathe without oxygen.

        All three have jobs. All three are also very good at their jobs.

        1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:52pm

          I know….so you know there are no problems? I know LGBT people who are perfectly happy with gay marriage so why do you need Gay marriage? These people are the very small number of tokens with a particularly obvious and sympathetic form of illness wh can be used to misrepresent. Or perhaps some had the job before they got the disability and so had employment protection, or got employment from somebody like a charity. Honestly!

  12. “UKIP’s manifesto for the local elections centres on immigration, foreign aid and (of course) the EU: three issues no local council can do anything about.”

    See good article on UKIP’s useless plans here:

  13. Thomas Booker might end up losing his job, just like that person from UKIP’s youth group who spoke out in favor of letting gay people get married.
    UKIP would sooner evict it’s membership than change policy.

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 8:38pm

      The moderates probably have an uphill struggle given some of the candidates certainly – much like the CON party. They only got equal marriage through on the backs of other parties, remember?

  14. Hahahahahahahahahahhsh


  15. Philip Breen 30 Apr 2013, 8:08pm

    Absolutely. In fact, we have an additional but important battle to fight. Have any of you followed the new filtering regulations we can expect to be put through parliament regarding the new CRB/DBS checks? This is our opportunity to campaign to get the prejudicial gay offences ‘filtered’ with the other ‘minor’ offences. While the new statement had said that no serious violent & sexual offences could be filtered, surely this is our chance to get rid of the disclosures for ‘soliciting by man for an immoral cause’, ‘gross indecency between men’ & whatever other homophobic & unserious crimes still exist in the ‘sexual’ category. However, i don’t know where we start the process for such a campaign. Schedule 15 lists anything & everything as a draft legislation. It is terrifying If we are not careful, we will have missed an important opportunity that affects many gay people still. What can we do to address this?

  16. Philip Breen 30 Apr 2013, 8:22pm

    I have not said this before!!! In fact, we do need more candidates from the more liberal side of society PRECISELY to support the possibility of getting prejudicial old gay offences such as ‘soliciting by man for an immoral cause’, ‘gross indecency between men’ included in the forthcoming amnesty of ‘filtering’ of old & minor convictions in the new CRB/DBS regulations. Everyone seems silent about this. These are not serious crimes but they affect many gay people so adversely. Schedule 15 is terrifying. It lists every old gay crime as a ‘specified offence’. How do we set up a campaign with which to fight this battle? We must not miss the opportunity to get these anomalies dealt with for the sake of many gay people.

    1. Philip Breen 1 May 2013, 2:05pm

      I was not suggesting anyone vote UKIP!

  17. ‘…“We do believe in freedom of speech but certainly do not want to accommodate people who say LGBT people are sinners or inferior”…’

    so ukip’s lgbt selectively peddle one bigotry but oppose another, such bunch of hypocrites

    voting ukip? i might as well vote bnp, the proper fascist

    1. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:38pm

      What is this bigotry then? You cannot accept that there are people who while they have normal respect for those who are LGBT are worried about the consequences if marriage is undermined? All those abandoned mothers and kids led a dogs life because marriage doesn’t matter any more?

      1. ok i will try to write clearly and slowly to accommodate your low intellectual capacity, characteristic so common among ukip members.

        ukip’s lgbt complain about other ukip morons calling them sinners and inferior but at the same time they support racist and xenophobic views hold by their party

        to reiterate; voting ukip? i might as well vote bnp, the proper fascist

        1. I am from a working class background (though with upper middle relatives – orchestra solists and music teachers). Psychometric tests gave results of 100%, 97%, 92,93,92, 85, 85, and 72 and 73 for manual speed and dexterity. BA degree, O an A levels from comprehensive. You just want to be able to behave selfishly, so from now get back what you are giving out. You sound a bit thick to me, you know, one of those who just goes with the convenient logic, and doesn’t understand anything that doesn’t further their selfish ends.

          1. ‘…You sound a bit thick to me, you know, one of those who just goes with the convenient logic…’

            err, there is no much logic to hypocrisy, talking about being thick

  18. thelostdot 30 Apr 2013, 9:54pm

    Thing is really in the end, given your selfishness and consideration for your own plight I thiink I just lost any sympathy for any more Gay rights. Congratulations you made a convert!

    1. That There Other David 30 Apr 2013, 10:07pm

      Great. Have fun at the Polling Booth, won’t you?

      1. Me and many other fed up people I suspect. Yes.

        1. Dave North 1 May 2013, 9:52am

          Some people are just naturally losers.

          1. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 3:23pm

            And some people are just naturally sheep and blindly follow everybody else.

      2. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 8:08pm

        Looking forward to it. Middle England is just about to bite back.

    2. A “convert”? Yeah right.

      You’ve done nothing but post pro-UKIP comments here (not any about actual LGBT rights… except to bash our “attitude” towards a homophobic party) and now you’ve been “converted” into a homophobe because of the people here… and you expect us to believe that you actually gave a single fuck about LGBT rights to begin with?

      Consider me not convinced!

    3. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 8:10pm

      Like I said in previous posts, gay men are only interested in what directly affects them.
      The majority are too blinkered and stupid and blinkered to see beyond the ends of their noses, (or dicks).

      1. “Gay men are only interested in what directly affects them”

        More than any other part of society? What a load of nonsense.

        Judging by the comments of many UKIP supporters, they have the dog in the manger attitude. Pure and utter selfishness.

        Like I said before, go on the Mail site and see for yourself.

      2. Unlike most non-gay men? Unlike most women?

        You shouldn’t confuse ‘the majority’ of gay men you know with the majority of gay men. No wonder so many people can dismiss your occasional rants so easily.

  19. David Gerard 30 Apr 2013, 10:14pm

    Well, half of Ukip are so far in the closet their passports say “Narnia”.

  20. GingerlyColors 1 May 2013, 3:50pm

    UKIP has an LGBTQ section but does the BNP have one? Of these two parties UKIP is the lesser of two evils, they both oppose marriage equality but at least UKIP does not plan to recriminalize homosexuality unlike the BNP which would no doubt do so if they are ever elected although their manifesto says otherwise.
    Like them or loath them, we can perhaps be thankful that UKIP seems to be taking votes away from the more poisonous BNP. An increasing number of people are becoming disenfranchised and are fed up of the old three-party system. Don’t forget the vast majority of people are not gay and they have other issues in life and with most of our laws now coming from Brussels we cannot ignore the big issue that is Europe.
    What started off with good intentions as the Common Market has unfortunately grown into a monster and even the French and Dutch have voted in recent referendums against giving Brussels more powers.
    The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

    1. So ukip are bnp lite thanks for clearing that up

      1. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 8:07pm

        Does that mean Stalin was “Labour Lite” then?

        1. Poor comparison Spanner, the difference is that the majority of Labour voters realise that Stalin was a brutal, murderous dictator, but in UKIP there have been several politicians making comments that wouldn’t be out of place in the BNP. Also you only have to look at the online comments to see how reactionary and hateful many of the hardcore UKIP members are.

          Using Stalin to make progressive people who sit on the left of the political spectrum feel guilty is an old tactic used by the right. Unfortunately for them the majority of moderate liberals/socialists find Stalin just as evil as most people do.

        2. I think you’ve got it the wrong way round anyway, what you meant to say is “Does that mean that Labour are “Stalinist Lite” then?

  21. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 3:56pm

    Well after the recent debacles on here I thought long and hard about the subject, and I think it really boils down to this:
    “Which is more important, same-sex marriage, or getting out of Europe?”

    Much that I want to marry my partner, I have to say Europe is actually more important right now; For that reason I have decided to vote UKIP. The chances of them getting in at the next election are zilch, and there seems far more likelihood the Tories will clear SS gay marriage before then, and in the very unlikely possibility UKIP got in, I doubt they would rescind it once it becomes law.

    The bottom line is, this has to be a tactical/protest vote to kick the ConLiBLabs into touch and get the European referendum happening, NOW. I am not altogether happy with the way UKIP operates, but they have to be a better alternative than the other bunch of chinless muppets.

    1. GingerlyColors 1 May 2013, 7:17pm

      Wow, some thumbs up for our latest round of comments here. Like you, I want to send a message to the three main parties that most people are not happy with Europe and with the local elections tomorrow and Euro elections next year there is ample opportunity to let them know. I don’t agree with the idea of an European Parliament and what I consider to be an unnecessary tier of government but I still vote in Euro elections as I still feel the need to have a vote.
      I cannot see UKIP forming a government but there is a chance they could form part of a coalition government and force a vote on Europe. The Liberal Democrats always championed voting reform and as part of the deal in which they formed a coalition with the Conservatives they forced a referendum on introducing the Alternative Vote, a motion which was defeated by 2/3 of voters. Europe is the main issue for UKIP and their opposition to same-sex marriages is a side issue. I plan to visit Gloucestershire last weekend in May.

      1. That There Other David 1 May 2013, 7:55pm

        No chance at all of them being in any coalition. UKIP either disappears or we get a Labour government. That’s the choice facing the electorate in 2015.

        1. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 8:03pm

          Half a loaf is better than none at all. If they have to get in bed with the enemy, they will.

      2. Spanner1960 1 May 2013, 8:04pm

        Cool, shout me a time and date. I will have the pints lined up.

    2. Let’s see, in the last few months they’ve had a member who advocated the abortion of foetuses with Down Syndrome, then came Winston McKenzie who said that gay adoption was “child abuse”, recently Anne-Marie Crompton made comments on her Facebook page for all to see that said that Jewish people financed and planned World War Two and therefore it was their fault that the holocaust happened. Most recently there was that young member pictured making a Nazi salute.

      Now of course you could point out that these are individual cases which don’t represent the majority of UKIP members, however one only has to look at the Mail Online to see comments that accuse the main three parties of running a “smear campaign” because of these stories being (rightly) published, there are even people defending her comments. There is an undercurrent of xenophobia, racism and homophobia that as far as I’m concerned cancels out any of their supposed good points.

  22. Who joins an authoritarian, national chauvinist party whose natural constituency is the kind of provincial bigot that grimaces in disgust at the very utterance of words like ‘BME’, ‘LGBT’ or ‘diversity’ and that, until not long ago, regarded Robert Kilroy-Silk serious leadership material and expects it not to be crawling with the most ignorant thickos imaginable?

    In other news, the BNP’s Jewish division reacts with incredulity when they discover Nick Griffin has not recanted his views on the Holocaust.

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