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US: San Francisco Pride backtracks on announcement of Bradley Manning as grand marshal

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  1. One of the strengths of the American LGBT rights movement is the moral depravity of its critics (anybody who watches Right Wing Watch will know what I mean).

    However, it is now so deeply embedded with the liberal establishment now and the political class (whose lobbying it long ago substituted for grassroots activism), it can’t do anything that would upset militarists, neocons or the Israel lobby on whom it now relies to protect it from the Tea Party/Christian right fascists.

    To do this, it has effectively written Bradley Manning out of its own history. Just as it does people of colour (most disgracefully of all, erroneously blaming black Californians for the passage Prop 8). I’d boycott this event if I were in San Francisco and I urge others to do so.

    1. So it was the Jews that did it. You haven’t by any chance been spending too much time reading The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Thanks for the LOLs.

  2. I’m glad they cleared that up. Honoring Manning at pride would be a slap in the face to a large part of the community, especially those who’ve dedicated their lives to serving their country.

    My own feelings are complicated. I’d have more sympathy for the guy if he’d just leaked the video, which was arguably a legitimate act of whistle-blowing. But he didn’t just do that, did he? He also leaked millions of classified diplomatic cables without even knowing what was in them. As far as I’m concerned, the minute he did that he destroyed whatever claim he might otherwise have had to being a legitimate whistle-blower. That was wrong, full stop, and he deserves to be punished for it.

    That said, I think it’s disgraceful the way the authorities have treated him. He should be treated fairly and given a fair, timely trial, not singled out for cruel and unusual punishment just because he embarrassed the government.

    1. @chrism – I think you forgot to complete a couple of your sentences:

      “…would be a slap in the face to a large part of the community, especially those who’ve dedicated their lives to serving their country”….conducting illicit wars, propping up totalitarian regimes, and are responsible for the deaths of god knows how many innocent people (including GLBT people).

      “He should be treated fairly and given a fair, timely trial” before he is executed.

      Remember, one man’s traitor is another man’s hero.

      1. I have friends and family who’ve served, and they’re not responsible for anything like that. What a bizarre and offensive thing to say.

        One good thing to come out of this is that the leaked cables revealed that we have some smart, decent, and capable people in our diplomatic corps – the ones working valiantly to counteract the influence of Scott Lively in Uganda, for example. Do you also hold them personally responsible for all the perceived wrongs of the U.S. government?

        As for Manning, the damage he caused appears to be fairly minimal, and that should be reflected in his punishment. I certainly wouldn’t support the death penalty, which is extremely unlikely anyway. I don’t think anyone’s been executed for espionage here since the Rosenbergs, and I hardly think we’re going to start again with anyone as small potatoes as Bradley Manning.

  3. manning has done next to nothing and should be freed. Ridiculous laughable Americans. Do they actually think they will be respected fro such enormous persecution for such a minor unimportant breach? Lost my admiration years ago with all their rubbish.

  4. One phrase jumped out at me:

    “It emerged that a committee of former Pride marshals had selected Manning, but the Pride board had decided not to extend the honour to him as he is a controversial figure.”

    Good heavans, a ‘controversial figure’ at a pride march.

    We can’t have Pride turning into some sort of political protest event, it might distract pridegoers from partying and spending money – won’t someone please think of the profit margins!

  5. Stephen Peters needs to get his head out of his arse.

    ”Manning’s blatant disregard for the safety of our service members and the security of our nation should not be praised.”

    No mention of the lies to put hundreds of thousands of young US serving citizens in harms way to begin with, no mention of the morally corrupt actions covered up by the administration and senior military officials, no mention of the torture and assassination of innocent people and the burying of stories, no mention of his precious generals hiding the truth from the American people…

    If he wants to find traitors, he just needs to look at the US government and the corrupt military machine he serves.

    Manning has a conscience, all others attacking him are the equivalent of SS soldiers who were also “just following orders” without question and abandoning their own morality.

    He deserves the honor, just for being a moral person refusing to assist in the cover up. Americans should be thanking him.

  6. thelostdot 28 Apr 2013, 3:16pm

    I’m afraid for LGBT rights it is rapidly becoming the case in the UK and the USA it seems of “collborators”, and “them and us”. LGBT people whose loyalty is primarily to the government first and foremost, and as a very small secondary point to LGBT people, to political pressure, and to MORALS. I personally no longer bother with the “make money and nothing else” pride rubbish. Get some integrity and their might be some customers.

  7. We shouldn’t forget BM has been tortured and deprived of basic human rights while being imprisoned. Also the US army called him back after his discharge because they needed his computer expertise. His short stature and his considered sissiness ensured his brutal treatment at the hands and feet of the other macho soldiers hence his original discharge.

    Orthodoxy and wealthy gay men go hand in hand in my experience.

  8. Regardless how you feel about Bradley Manning and the validity of his leaking the documents he did, what does his action have to do with LGBT pride. He may be Gay (or transgender – reports I have seen are ambigious here), but he has done nothing pro or con to promote Gay liberation, and does not deserve consideration for the role of a pride marshall.

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