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Northern Ireland: Same-sex marriage motion vetoed by DUP before debate

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  1. They should really drop the word ‘Democratic’ from their political party name.

    1. They should really just drop out of politics altogether. Hateful bigots.

    2. GingerlyColors 29 Apr 2013, 5:48am

      It seems that the name ‘Democratic’ is used by the least democratic organisations and countries. The German Democratic Republic and the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea (East Germany and North Korea) aren’t the best examples of democracy and free speech for example!

  2. That There Other David 27 Apr 2013, 1:22pm

    It will be implemented in Northern Ireland, whatever the DUP say. If it appears that they are preventing debate using these type of tactics Westminster will eventually impose marriage equality on the Province, probably as soon as the Republic follows the mainland nations of the UK and legalises it.

    So suck it up Paisleyites. This will happen. Act like King Cnuts all you like, the tide will still come in.

    1. .....Paddyswurds 27 Apr 2013, 3:03pm

      Unfortunately Westminster cannot impose anything without first withdrawing devolved Government to NI. The only thing Westminster can legislate on for NI is Taxes and Finance. Everything including Justice is devolved…

      1. Not necessarily, I would check the small print.
        Once the rest of the UK has Equal Marriage the situation changes.

        1. Renovato, or Paddy, can you provide “the small print”? Please.

          1. .....Paddyswurds 27 Apr 2013, 10:08pm

            Well I can’t provide small print, but I seriously doubt that is the case, otherwise CallmeDave would have included it from the off. No Im very much afraid it is down to the DUPes and their Motion of Concern. More like Motion of protestant Bigotry….

          2. It is possible for them to introduce equal marriage through an Act of Parliament of the United Kingdom and making it applicable to Northern Ireland. They could exclude Scotland as Scots Law differs from the common law system of the rest of the UK. While it is possible it would be a last resort, in my opinion, as it would be seen as interfering in their domestic politics.

          3. Well as I understand it, the Westminster government can override the Assembly by issuing an “Order of Parliament” – due to Northern Ireland being seperate, there are no acts of Parliament applicable there – even before the GFA.

            So as a result, Westminster COULD issue a Northern Ireland Order of Parliament, but it runs the risk of undermining the Assemblies authority (particularly with regard to Unionists) by doing so.

  3. Colin (London) 27 Apr 2013, 2:42pm

    These are the most disgusting plebs abd dregs of any type of reprobated anobe. And yet most free thinking people are happy to move forward on issues that mostly do not affect them.

    If you are comfortable with your sexuality and status in society then how does others trying o get the same status undermine you.

    There is a layer of stupid thick plebs who need to leave this planet that exist. they have no brain, no intelligence, White trash if truth be told. Others have moved on and think about a bigger and more inclusive society. Scum don’t….
    Which camp are you in then?

    1. .....Paddyswurds 27 Apr 2013, 10:13pm

      It makes the bigots feel superior… They don’t have much going for them and they know it so this is a petulant tantrum in response. It in the buybul don’t ya know. The Minister for Health, a DUPer went on National telly and declared that he was a young Earther and that Gays were an abomination who should have no rights whatever. We can’t give blood in NI because of this bigoted dinosaur nor can we adopt or Marry because of the views of his bigoted backward party.

  4. Colin (London) 27 Apr 2013, 2:50pm

    Northern Ireland… Fight the biggots and the catholic church (bigots) and move on into a world that wants to contribute and be accepting of differences. The more we include the more are accountable for the benefit of us all
    Show me I’m wrong then…

    These are stupid men living in the past. peopel like me believe you want a future in a progressive world. They want to live in the past. Go on tell me the past sorted anything???

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 27 Apr 2013, 3:02pm

    This might seem odd coming from an atheist, bu I only wish more Catholics would move to N.I. making them the majority and voting to secede from the UK and join the republic. More Catholics support equal marriage than protestants in spite of what the hierarchy says. The republic has one of the highest rates of support than any country advocating for EM. Six catholic countries, Mexico City and eleven Brazilian states already with EM.

    1. .....Paddyswurds 27 Apr 2013, 3:11pm

      More catholics is not the answer either. Quite a few catholics in the North of Ireland are very pro union unfortunately. What we need is more education of the Protestant working class so that they themselves will reognise the need for Equality in all things not just Marriage….Forcing even a minority of Unionists into a United Ireland will just shift the burden on to the other foot as it were. The majority of unionists are implacably opposed to reunion with the South and that will not change anytime soon. The answer is Education and amongst the Unionist/loyalist community that is a dirty word it would seem.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 27 Apr 2013, 3:50pm

        Thanks for clarifying, Paddy. It’s a shame though as much as I would like to see an united Ireland. Education is key too on the UK mainland among the ignorant Tories, UKIP and BNP lot.

        1. Educating that load of hooligans who caused so much trouble night after night, just a little while ago, over not having the Union Jack flying over them night and day, is going to be very very difficult.

          I can hear them now, in that way they have of speaking with such hatred in their voices: “We object to being brainwashed by people who wish to deny us of our right to our identity and our religious beliefs!”

  6. Robert in S. Kensington 27 Apr 2013, 3:16pm

    I remember vividly the very bigoted DUP member Jim Shannon mumbling on in the Equal Marriage Committee Hearings all of the slippery slope crap along with his Tory homophobic colleagues Tim Loughton and David Burrowes, the infamous three. Vile, disgusting creatures who can’t be impartial and shouldn’t hold elected office.

  7. There will be a time in the not too distant future when the marriage equality map of Europe will be fully ‘pink’ except for a wee black hole of intolerance in Northern Ireland. The bigots of the DUP will happily continue to resist the 21st century. Sad.

    1. .....Paddyswurds 27 Apr 2013, 10:26pm

      Not if we get rid of this Motion of Concern crap Marriiage Equality already has enough votes to pass but it is this Motion of Concern crap that the DUPers use to thwart it that is the problem A motion of Concern demands cross community agreement to pass, even though it may have enough votes to pass naturally. Only the DUPers use this tactic. The Alliance, SDLP and Sinn Fein parties all support marriage equality. Religion MUST be removed from politics…..or better still the DUP should be removed from politics; they are not fit for purpose if only their uneducated and illiterate supporters would realise that…..

      1. Alliance and the SDLP are divided over marriage equality, Sinn Fein is the only party that fully supports marriage equality.

  8. As someone from England and so not completely attuned to public feeling in Northern Ireland, it seems rather hatred of Sinn Fein being able to introduce this measure as the real reason why the DUP are against it. Surely if they had a principled view rather than vetoing the motion and not allowing it to be voted on they should be allowing a democratic vote in which they as a party could vote no. This way no one get’s a say which isn’t very democratic.

    1. That There Other David 28 Apr 2013, 9:07am

      Sadly not the case. The DUP’s heartland is in County Antrim, a place where the pulpit is used to preach that natural disasters are God’s punishment for sin and that just about everyone will burn in Hell. The levels of insanity that come out of the Congregationalist and Free Presbyterian preachers’ mouths are off the scale, and unfortunately with so many in Antrim never experiencing life outside their own self-affirming circle of religious weirdness the most obnoxious things are believed in the name of Christianity.

      I have a trip to Ballymena coming up. Not looking forward to it in the slightest.

      1. Well they hate Muslims, Jews and Catholics, so why would they think any differently about gays?

      2. Lets not forget the same bile and hatred is spouted from the pulpits of Catholic Churches every Sunday as well, remember the letters sent out from Rome against gay marriage ….I feel some here are forgetting that its all religion that is evil not just one

        1. True, but the catholics seem more amenable to ignoring what is spouted from the pulpit, than the DUP supporters are.

          1. Really ? Do you know anything about the history of N.Ireland ?

  9. “Northern Ireland: Same-sex marriage motion vetoed by DUP before debate”

    silly little boys with cloth phalluses around their necks.

  10. GingerlyColors 28 Apr 2013, 1:47pm

    The DUP has always been a thorn in the side of Northern Ireland politics especially then that mouth on legs, Ian Paisley was it’s leader. Now that they have torpedoed a debate about marriage equality in the Provence, a greater onus is now on Westminster to introduce same-sex marriages nationwide.

  11. I feel embarrassed to be from a country that’s run by such backward people, I for one will not be voting for the DUP in the next elections, in fact none of the above sounds about right!

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