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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Apr 2013, 2:40pm

    I wish he would come to the UK and show the Tories in opposition in both Houses what a conservative should and can be. The best speech by an MP I’ve ever heard and a lesson for all those who are on the fence or diametrically opposed.

    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 22 Apr 2013, 2:43pm

      Agree with you, Robert !

  2. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Apr 2013, 2:43pm

    Meanwhile, I urge all of you to contact the Lords. C4M are already mounting a hate campaign aimed at the Lords to wreck the equal marriage bill and the vote takes place next month.

    1. They can’t wreck it. Delay it, yes. Wreck it? No.

      As this is an HoC bill (and one which received a massive majority at second reading), the Lords are fully aware that the Parliament Act can be used to push it through next year.

      I suspect that their Lordships will actually pass the Bill (albeit with a lot of nonsense from o”Cathain, Tebbit and the usual suspects) but if they don’t, Maria Miller will simply invoke the Parliament Act.

      That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t write to the Lords, of course. Simply, that C4M/The Christian Institute hate group’s campaign stands no chance of wrecking anything… except, hopefully, their bank balance.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Apr 2013, 4:12pm

        Sasha, I agree with much of what you say but what needs to happen now is to get guarantees from Maria Miller that she wil in fact invoke the PA as she indicated before the vote by saying it hadn’t been ruled out. Let’s hope it isn’t necessary, but if it is, so be it. It serves no purpose delaying for a year knowing it will pass inevitably. What could they possibly gain from it? The opposition will claim victory and spin it of course, but it really would be an unethical move on the part of Lords to delay especially with a huge majority in support in the Commons.

        1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Apr 2013, 4:14pm

          By wrecking, I meant they could try to add some absurd amendments thereby delaying it, probably some of the amendments put forward by the wringleaders in opposition during the committee hearings, i.e. Tory MPs Loughton and Burrowes.

          We must be more proactive now and contact the Lords via the link in my prior post. It’s crucial to swing a few on the fence or waivering.

        2. Maria M won’t categorically state that she’d invoke the PA, as that would simply ‘smell bad’ politically and put their Lordships into a bloody-minded mood.

          I agree with you: they have nothing to gain. On the other hand, they have nothing to lose and it gives them a chance to confirm their right-wing credentials. Plus, we are not dealing with logically-minded or ethical folk. :)

          1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Apr 2013, 7:56pm

            I think Maria Millers statement prior to the vote in February indicated that she hasn’truled it out. She threw that into the mix as a message to the Lords I think, just a reminder of what could happen should they decide to delay it.


  3. Between Maurice Williams and Ellen, there is great potential for people in the US to awaken to the reality of how absurd their beliefs and objections to equal marriage are. Ellen reaches a wide audience, Whilst it is arguable that her viewers are liberal thinkers who watch her show, there are others who are likely objectors looking for issues to use as arguments. I always hope that she influences change in some of these cases.

    It’s a long time since her start as a stand up comedienne and her original “phone call to god” but I often wonder what would happen if she made the call now to talk to him about “Equal Marriage”

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