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  1. Do they have any anti-terrorist laws in france?

  2. Actually getting pretty scary now.

    Also, terrorism, nice way to get your point across… the MPs in France will surely take note of this and dely the vote!

    1. No Kacey, it is called terrorism. The moment you give in to threats of this sort you are done.

      1. Yes… I said it was terrorism.

  3. Well yet another example of the mature and reasoned debate that the anti equality side usually put forward. It reminds me of what children say in the playground – “I’m right because I’m right.”

  4. Keith Francis Farrell 22 Apr 2013, 5:24pm

    It is begining to look like the church wants war with us. They call themselves christian, well if this is what a christian is then why shold they get the sadvantage of avaiding paying tax. maybe it is time we struck where it hurst most and made ourdemand that charity tax be removed from all churches, schools etc

    1. Keith Francis Farrell 22 Apr 2013, 5:26pm

      sorry my spelling, Dyslexic

  5. I wasn’t aware that France is mostly inhabited by wild animals instead of civilized people.

    1. It isn’t. By and large, my experience of France is that it is a very open and community based country – more so in the countryside than urban areas. These are minority acts of those that would seek to maintain the anti-equality status-quo. Much like any country, there are always dissenters who will resort to ugly methods to perpetuate their narrow-minded views.
      Ironically these terrorists carrying out the actions seem to forget the French motto; “Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité” – Freedom, Equality and Brotherhood. There is a proud and strong tradition in France of upholding that motto.

      1. Sure, but where’s the voice of the opposition? Why aren’t any high profile French people condemning the recent spate of attacks?

        1. de Villiers 22 Apr 2013, 6:55pm

          What are you reading or listening? It has been attacked loudly in the liberal newspapers and magazine. I have either read or watched on the (French) television a condamnation every day.

          1. “What are you reading or listening?”

            The English press most probably, who loathe France on the whole, so they’re rubbing their hands together with glee re this.

        2. LostInFrance 22 Apr 2013, 8:06pm

          The voice of the opposition here in France is louder than the minority of bigots. Tomorrow for example,23 April, there will be pro marriage pour tous demos in every major French city. I shall attend the protest in Paris.
          Also lest we forget, Hollande is not by far the most popular French President to date but lets not forget that the promise of equality for all was part of his manifestation, and he was voted in by a huge majority. As I have said in previous posts, loudmouths like Frigide Barjot and her ilk are spreading a disease or fear amongst the religious jumpy folk and they are being repeated in church sermons and carried onto the streets and into the minds of the most base forms of human intelligence. These are a majority. The British press are only reporting a tiny fraction of the actual events here.

          1. Good luck for tomorrow. I hope you have a peaceful demo

    2. de Villiers 22 Apr 2013, 6:53pm

      Are you stupid? France has a population of sixty five million people. It has elected a Socialist President. The Mayor of Paris is openly gay. France is not inhabited mostly by wild animals.

      The numbers protesting, as a proportion of the population, is 0.083%.

      Perhaps the next time I read a story about gay people being attacked in the UK, I should post here about how the whole of the UK is a nation of savages?

      1. Well said.

    3. Well, as a French national, I have to say that the rosy vision many have of France does not reflect reality. There is unfortunately A LOT of support, all through the land for extremist right-wing policies and ideas. The French haven’t made peace with their past : namely the collaboration of many with the German occupier in WWII that was often based on ideological sympathies more than opportunism. Violent, well-funded and vocal reactionary groups (typically christian fundamentalists) are well documented and always a present danger in local and national elections. Can you imagine a BNP candidate for Prime minister get 20% of the votes, nationally. Well, you got it a few years ago when Jean Marie Le Pen (national Front) gained that amount… for his bid to be President of the Republic. And right-wing terrorism (yes, the kind that throws bombs in public places) is nothing new. They are not to be underestimated. Because he church is always by their side.

      1. Thanks very much for a valuable comment, French national. For years I was a sucker for the myth of Paris (you know, the accordeons, the Piaf, the bridges over the Seine, Sartre, Modigliani, chanson, Barbara, and all that), but then I visited and examined the WHOLE city in minute detail and saw that the myth for what it is. Paris & London LOOK different, but they are really much the same in terms of their various problems.

  6. Stand strong supportive MPs

  7. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Apr 2013, 5:43pm

    Disgraceful, appalling. Arrest these terrorists along with Fridige Barjot and the Catholic hierarchy for fomenting violence and acts of terrorism. Caving into terrorists only enables them. M. Bartolone will not give in to terrorists and rightly so.

    C4M in the UK had better pay close attention. Opposing equal marriage will fire back on them as this too will in France. No wonder our lot are so quiet, afraid of being associated with it.

    1. In any civilised and “free” society, people like Barjot should be allowed to stand and present their views, however distasteful I might find them. If we are to truly live in a free society, we must also allow those who wish to spout (imho) nonsense to have their say.
      When those words turn into actions as they have in this case, then action must be taken by the authorities. Freedom of speech and protest is the cornerstone of any free society. Terrorism and threats is not.
      If recent events and the morbid complicity of the British media in perpetuating a single view of events has shown us anything, it is that free speech should be encouraged.

  8. This news will have our Tory, Christian, and extreme-right-wingers chuckling with delight, I bet.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we get a statement from one of them soon along the lines of “We most certainly do not condone what is happening in France, but we would advise the UK government to consider this matter very carefully . . . ”

    And some of our gutless MPs will no doubt do just that, they will waver and turn against the Bill.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Apr 2013, 6:06pm

      Probably right, Eddy and I suspect that’s why they’ve remained silent so they can’t be accused of having an ‘agenda’. One thing they can’t escape though, those Manif pour Tous supporters have fomented violence because of their opposition, maybe not deliberately but it’s certainly caused people so inclined to react violently. Barjot pleaded with them not to target gay people but they have. Serves her right and she should be held accountable. Even the Tories’ beloved Thatcher vowed never to cave in to terrorists during the “troubles”. I don’t think Cameron’s government will cave in either. It would be giving up on democracy. Mob rule under the guise of religious opposition on both sides of the channel is what this is all about. Ours is not a violent society comparatively. I don’t see too much waivering on the horizon, in fact it may well have a positive outcome. Rational MPs will see just how irrational the arguments against equal marriage really are after Paris.

  9. Bandits cannot terrorize a big country and its citizens. Are the right-wings terrorists and their conservative allies capable of starting a civil war?

  10. The very worst thing any government could do would be to give way to threats of this sort.

  11. The catholic church have a lot to answer for. Vatican city should be held accountable for acts of christian terrorism and harboring terrorists – they are the ones who are inciting these acts of violence in france.

    1. They are the real axis of evil. A foreign power with their spies and lackies everywhere undermining sovereign states and democracy.

    2. I think they’ve been watching Borgia and getting nostalgic.

  12. .....Paddyswurds 22 Apr 2013, 7:51pm

    Why are the French so virulently homophobic. It can’t be their adherence to the Roman paedophilia Cult because next neighbours Spain have had Marriage Equality for some time now and they are also in thrall to the paedo cult, maybe more so…. From here it just looks like plain old ignorant homophobia.

    1. .....Paddyswurds 22 Apr 2013, 7:53pm

      next-door **

      1. That There Other David 22 Apr 2013, 8:43pm

        France has not had the equivalent of a Franco Regime. The RCC loved Franco, and hijo that’s backfired big time on them in the decades since.

    2. I agree , but many here seem to be in denial.

      1. .....Paddyswurds 25 Apr 2013, 4:43pm

        France should beware of the RCC. Ireland put complete trust in the clergy of the paedophile cult and see where it got them. Children as young as seven were molested and raped by evil men wearing black frocks.
        Some were enticed away under the guise of trips to Dublin or such with the priest. “Imagine, the priest picked my son/daughter over the whole school” was the naive delight of an ill educated and totally brainwashed by religion, populace.
        It is the freedom of thought, now felt by the Irish people since the Roman shackle has been broken, that they are now contemplating Marriage Equality and it would seem Ireland intends to be in the top twenty when a history of civil rights is written. Twenty years ago, to even talk about homosexuality on night time Irish telly was scandalous and would be the talk of the nation for several days.
        Now we have divorce, “gay” marriage, and there is rumours afoot that abortion laws are to be eased and updated. Ireland is emerging from the dark ages

  13. It really is quite simple. The forensic trail these idiots will have left will lead even Inspector Clouseau to the culprits. I hope they serve a very long time in prison. Not for hating, not for being anti equality. But for the terrorist acts they have carried out. As for the violent thugs who have attacked gay people across France. They are just coming out of the woodwork and using Equal marriage as an excuse for there hate filled bigoted attacks. Again I hope the French police have the perpetrators in custody.

  14. If this happened in the US, or even here in Australia, the people who sent these letters would be hunted down by the anti-terrorist organisations and put in prison for a very long time.

    I’m shocked the French are letting this sort of behaviour slide.

  15. Jock S. Trap 23 Apr 2013, 10:59am

    Is would seem that Religion = Fascism

    1. That’s true in a way. And the Buddhists of Burma (currently killing Muslims) are proving it once and for all for anyone who has ever had any doubts. (I have been so sickened over the years by those people who have say, “Oh, I’m not religious, but I do believe in Buddhism. Buddish is a completely different thing.” )

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