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  1. PeterinSydney 17 Apr 2013, 2:10pm

    Don’t worry Gillard is going have the biggest defeat for any party in Australia’s history. And serve her right for opposing marriage equality.

    1. We can but hope.

      1. michael sydney 17 Apr 2013, 2:46pm

        will be a lot worse under abbot – at least we got the largest amount of reforms and protections under gillard…

        1. Exactly! Couldn’t have said it better!

    2. .....Paddyswurds 17 Apr 2013, 4:05pm

      But the opposition is just as rabidly homophobic and even worse, religiously bigoted adherence to the vile Roman paedophilia cult. Oz is I’m afraid condemned to the backwoods much like the North of Ireland for the foreseeable future. Gillards homophobic bigotry is mystifying as she professes to be atheist…. so we can only assume she really is super homophobic or else she doesn’t want the “queers” as she refers to Gays in private, getting married if she can’t No one wants to marry her!….lol

      1. keith, moral instructor to immorals 17 Apr 2013, 4:27pm

        Why would you think that atheists are nt disgusted by homosexual acts? Many atheists find sc-at and consensual male adult incest disgusting practices also. Some people are disgusted by repulsive behaviour such as sc-a=t, consensual male adult incest and homosexuality.

        1. Jock S. Trap 17 Apr 2013, 4:34pm

          Yet again your arguments to this story are as ever irrelevant!

      2. keith, moral instructor to immorals 17 Apr 2013, 4:28pm

        Why would you think that atheists are nt disgusted by homosexual acts? Many atheists find sc-a=t and consensual male adult incest disgusting practices also. Some people are disgusted by repulsive behaviour such as sc-a=t, consensual male adult incest and homosexuality.

        1. Keithey's older adult brother 17 Apr 2013, 6:39pm

          Stop it Keithey… You’re getting me too worked up again!! I’m sooo going to take a steaming dump in your mouth later tonight! Yummo, can’t wait!!! Xoxo

      3. Well now Italy and Ireland are starting to debate it, both are ULTRA-catholic, like France, so I expect Australia will just get laughed at and mocked by the rest of the world until they catch up. Their choice I guess, we dont have to live there!! :)

        Lets just focus on Britain and hope that the HoL doesnt vote it down later this year

        1. Daniel Howard 19 Apr 2013, 1:33pm

          I’m from Ireland and believe me it’s no longer “ultra-Catholic”. Italy is more Catholic than Ireland. In fact, many Irish people oppose the Catholic Church now and 75% support equal marriage.

    3. It could also be that she will gain support because of her, what is perceived as, principled stance, just as in this country Mr Cameron will lose support for taking the opposite view. What matters should be doing the right thing and in a democracy the people will come to a view.

      1. It’s not perceived as being principled.
        She’s dependant on the rusted-on catholic socialist faction of the Labor Party for her support in the party-room.
        That’s why she’s backed into a corner. If she changes her stand one iota, she loses the party leadership.
        When she looses catastrophically in the election, the knives will come out, blaming her (with good reason) for the massacre.

      2. But in what way is it “principled”, given that she herself conspicuously shuns “traditional” marriage? It just comes across as hypocritical and opportunistic and desperately muddled.

      3. ….except that most people in the UK support same-sex marriage, and thats a fact

  2. PeterinSydney 17 Apr 2013, 2:12pm

    Don’t worry she is headed fopr the biggest defeat of any government in Australia’s history. And she deserves it for her rejection of marriage equality. Good riddance and may she fly off on a broomstick.

    1. Jock S. Trap 17 Apr 2013, 2:49pm

      Indeed…. though trouble is what too? The opposition leader side of the coalition doesn’t want it either.

      Time for Australian politics to get into the rest of the western world.

  3. Gillard is extraordinary – a lawyer turned politician in opposition to the conservatives, who is unmarried and lives with her partner, yet who claims to support “traditional” marriage.

    I feel sorry for my Australian friends who, as it is, cringe with embarrassment at having her as PM (as it is, most of them can scarcely believe what a Conservative-led government here is pushing). And the opposition is no better.

  4. Jock S. Trap 17 Apr 2013, 2:47pm

    More fool her.

    Those that choose to stay behind will remain so while others move forward to a better decent society.

    The fact is not only does marriage equality create a fairer society with stability it also looses out on the economical side too.

    Let’s hope, the sake of all Australian LGBT communities that she is the last of the bigoted PM’s.

  5. Colin (london) 17 Apr 2013, 2:58pm

    We know it’s so hard but Aussi you can do this. You have the best gay party in the world and welcomming.

    I remember being in Sydney after Mardi Gras…. dark glasses.. get it with 2 mates wanting brekky. Sydney staff just wonderful in non gay area…. they knew what we were.
    I believe that Aussi people bigger than politics. Go gay aussi’s go

  6. I hope those of us from the UK with pink punds to spend will avoid this embarassing country like the plague.

    1. You have not passed it either you knob. UK- Plague…go hand in hand.

  7. Does she feel as strongly about “living in sin” as she does about LGBT equality?

  8. .....Paddyswurds 17 Apr 2013, 3:59pm

    It would seem that Australia’s reputation as a racist, homophobic dump is set to continue, and the rabidly homophobic Julia Gillard will lead the charge. Frankly I am not surprised at Gillard’s attitude, as she is clearly on a mission to out -Thatcher the vile Margaret Thatcher. Mind you there may even be a frisson of jealousy in Gillards attitude, as she is unlikely ever to find herself in a position of being asked to marry someone. That face is only something a mother could love and then only on payday.

    1. I’m just soo glad I dont live there. My BF is from Melbourne but he moved to Britain. He says the weather is better in Aust, but its not worth being a second class citizen for another 10 years

      1. But what are you talking about you don’t have marriage equality in the UK – you have n apartheid like system called civil unions.

      2. Are you kidding…being gay in Australia is not oppressive and i certainly do live like a second class citizen.Change will happen.

    2. Wow Paddy – quite an offensive diatribe there – ‘racist homophobic dump’?? I live here quite happily as a gay man (in Melbourne) and certainly do not feel I live in the oppressive hades you have described – sure we are looking ridiculous with the marriage debate, but – wow – that is some vicious attack there mate. it really isn’t that bad here – honest! And Gillard has her good points and her bad – she is leading a fragile and divided minority government – my personal belief is she is trying not to upset potential conservative voters in marginal seats – she is a classic political survivalist in that sense – but hey, be a bit more intelligent with your postings in future eh?

      1. JackAlison 21 Apr 2013, 2:21pm

        Paddy is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
        PM Gillard’s response when Indian students were being beaten up in Melbourne????
        We should all visit Indian takeaways and also show our support by inviting Indians to a BBQ.
        Yah thats really gonna fix racist human rights abuses…Australia desperately needs a constitutional bill of rights so that inalieble human rights are understood NOT DEBATED THROUGH CONSENSUS…
        IF u treat australian blacks in such an APPALLING manner its no surprise u have backward human rights ABUSES across the whole social spectrum.
        Every time you question Aussi’s about rascism u get your standard response

        1. Sigh…hopefully you can talk to someone to deal with some deep seated anger issues that you have – your arguments make no sense and are grounded in broadbased assumptions. Take care

          1. JackAlison 22 Apr 2013, 5:00pm

            theyre facts if you care to follow the links
            DOUBLE SIGH!!!
            And hopefully u can get some much needed therapy for the stockholm syndrome u carry around where u defend and worship those who torture others
            no…. perhaps u should try truth serum.
            wake and smell the coffee!
            Australia treats is blacks like garbage so it should be no surprise that Australian gays jump up and down and accept ” crumbs of the table” anytime there is so much a a minor blink toward human rights.

  9. Where’s the democracy here? One person’s own opinion drives a whole legislation – that’s a dictatorship not a democracy! Australia – I feel your pain!!

  10. keith, moral instructor to immorals 17 Apr 2013, 4:29pm

    Why would you think that atheists are not disgusted by homosexual acts? Many atheists find sc-a/t and consensual male adult incest disgusting practices also. Some people are disgusted by repulsive behaviour such as sc-a=t, consensual male adult incest and homosexuality.

    1. What on earth has that got to do with equal marriage?

      (BTW I thought you said last week that it can’t be ‘incest’ if it’s between males and therefore runs no risk of procreation?)

    2. Keith (the closeted homosexual) loves the PN site. He can’t get enough of it!

    3. Well many Catholics (and even some muslims) support it, so STFU

  11. DavidJohnG 17 Apr 2013, 4:35pm

    Isn’t this the bitch that complained so vehemently about sexism and inequality not so long ago in regard to her treatment from male politicians? And yet we have this hypocrisy from her. Why has no one pointed that out to her? I would think as a result she would be more compassionate. She is a complete hypocrite.

    1. David – you are displaying misogyny in your response – using the word ‘bitch’ is in direct contradiction to your (i assume) anger at perceived homophobia with the marriage debate in Australia. Take check.


  13. Charliej95 17 Apr 2013, 5:07pm

    Dont like Gillard or Abbott but if i were an Australian voter i would vote for Gillard as she is the less of the two evils when it comes to Gay rights.

    1. Charliej95: Obviously you don’t know anything about this VILE and EVIL ginger slag and the havoc and damage she has wrought on our Australian way of life.

      It would take pages on this blog to list all of her criminal activities and broken promises that have never seen the light of day in the international press.

      This is the worst Labor government ever in our history and she is the most despicable PM that Australia has ever had to endure. I, like more that 60% of Australians, can’t wait to see the lard-arse kicked out of office come September!

      Tony Abbott may have his faults (who doesn’t?), but he will make Australia a more productive country and return some ‘standards’ into our lives. Unfortunately, his spiritual advisor is the Australian Catholic cardinal, George Pell, who has just been appointed an advisor to Pope Francis!

  14. Gillard is a fine advocate for “traditional marriage” – a woman who lives in unmarried cohabitation with a man to whom she is not married. probably figures “Why do the gays want to get married? I don’t.”

    1. Well said Daniel S: “Gillard’s hand bag Tim-Tam is a hairdresser, an ex-bikie who makes sexist and racial jokes. He told male guests at an official reception: “The digital examination is the only true way to get a correct reading on your prostate, so make sure you go and do that, and perhaps look for a small Asian female doctor is probably the best way.”

      “His training as a hairdresser isn’t exactly standard bloke territory. But then again he did say, “You again!” on his second meeting with the Queen.” Elizabeth, that is!

      Tim Mathieson is a divorcé with three adult children. He was previously married to Diane Stark, with whom he had two children. Mathieson also fathered a daughter in his late teens. He started dating Gillard in March 2006 and has remained her partner since. When asked about marriage to Gillard, Mathieson said “We haven’t talked about anything more than being spouses at this stage. Wait and see, I guess.”

      A cozy family story, don’t you think?

  15. Again, another case of “Oh I’m going to completely disregard the wishes of the people whom I represent and who voted for me, and base my decisions on my own biased opinions.”

    1. Heaven Help Us in Oz 18 Apr 2013, 2:10am

      So true Matt: Back in 1980-81 when lard-arse was Education Officer, Chair of Education, and Public Affairs Committee, and member of the Fabian Society at the University of Adelaide, she put out a printed statement (that I have read) that included “… I will encourage action on women’s rights, anti-nuclear policy and I understand homosexual rights as I am in a lesbian relationship. I ask for your support. Thank you”

      That says it all.

  16. Christopher in Canada 18 Apr 2013, 3:06am

    Is Australia trying to impress the Republicans in the US??

  17. dinosaurs roamed the earth for millions of years….and one day just disappeared….so too shall pass the politicians living in yesterday….as seen with Margaret Thatcher, sadly, people will rejoice in their passing and extinction.
    Hang in there Australia, this too shall pass….

  18. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 18 Apr 2013, 5:15am

    My own country is now a laughing stock and an complete embarrassment to the world.

    No wonder why we are well known all over the world as a marcho, racist, homophobic, bigoted and xenophobic culture country!


    1. Friday April 19:
      THE Liberal Party may change its same-sex marriage policy to allow a conscience vote in the next Parliament, education spokesman Christopher Pyne says.
      Coalition MPs voted in line with party policy when the Same Sex Marriage Bill went before the Parliament late last year.
      Mr Pyne said the Liberal Party had gone to the last election with a policy of keeping the Marriage Act as it is, but this policy could change.
      “In the next Parliament we haven’t got a clear policy on a conscience vote,” Mr Pyne told the Nine Network on Friday.
      “The party room will get to decide that.
      “We might well end up with some recognition of same-sex couples.”
      On Wednesday the New Zealand Parliament voted 77 to 44 in favour of making same-sex marriage legal in legislation backed by conservative Prime Minister John Key.
      The move prompted NSW Liberal Premier Barry O’Farrell to declare his support for same-sex marriage.

      Read more:

  19. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 18 Apr 2013, 5:22am

    In September 2013, when the Federal Election is on PLEASE PLEASE I beg you all…

    VOTE 1 For the Greens!

    Greens, Social Alliance, Marriage Equality Party and most Independants (Andrew Wilkie, Rob Oakshott, Craig Thompson, Nick Xenophone) all SUPPORT equal marriage!

    Labor, Liberal, National Party and the Democratic Labor Part, Shooters and Fishing Party, Christian Democrats are all AGAINST equal marriage!

  20. M Inkpin-Leissner 18 Apr 2013, 1:41pm

    she is an embarrassment of every labour or social democratic party in the world. I am labour, but i would never vote for her in my live. Before I would vote for Maggie Thatcher. at least you know what you get.

  21. Widdershins 18 Apr 2013, 8:41pm

    To Prime Minister Gillard and all her silly cohorts, on both sides of the House, I can’t put it any better than Chely Wright did: “Stop embarrassing your grandchildren.”

  22. Hmmm, yes, that makes sense, a barren, unmarried women, “partnered” up with a gay man.

    Like she should have any say on how the rest of us should live.

    Why do we always get the cast offs from the UK over here. Can’t you guys take Tony Abbott and this Welsh nightmare back?

    1. I find Gillard loathsome, but a woman is not “barren” because she is childless, nor is a man with 3 children “gay” because he’s a hairdresser.

  23. The woman is a walking contradiction!

  24. Leigh Hamilton 23 Apr 2013, 2:21am

    Interesting that she believes her own opinion has anything to do with her job. She was elected to serve the people of Australia, not her own interests. I think a sound electoral defeat is just what she needs.

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