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Irish Constitutional Convention decision welcomed by marriage equality supporters

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  1. Ivor Casey 14 Apr 2013, 7:46pm

    A triumphant moment in Irish history for equality! It finally pushes those barriers that have kept gay people second class citizens. Proud for the country right now!

    1. Only if the result of a referendum is yes to gay marriage.

      1. I must agree, keep the patriotic pride until the irish people prove themselves worthy and the referendum is passed. I fear that the catholic business will fight dirty and be responsible for many bashings/suicides in their evil crusade against LGBT. I’ve seen the New Zealand polls of those in favour of equality decrease since the fascists started playing dirty tactics.

        1. It’s still something to be proud of to see that 79% of Ireland’s politicians back equal marriage so I am also delighted for the country right now!

  2. .....Paddyswurds 14 Apr 2013, 10:03pm

    For those who will shout that equality shouldn’t be referendumed here is and explanation of why it is required.. The last poll showed a 78% support for marriage equality in Ireland,…………..It is necessary to have a referendum in order to change or modify the constitution. There is no way around it other than have a referendum to not have have a referendum in order to change or modify the Irish Constitution….it is that way so that a government cannot make changes to the Constitution without the expressed will of the people via a referendum. Ireland is a constitutional democratic Republic.

    1. So, what you are saying is that in countries where there is no majority in favour of gay marriage (e.g. Poland) then there should be no gay marriage? Excellent precedent!

      Which leads to the question… why is there even a “definition” of marriage in the Irish constitution?

  3. Long Overdue!

  4. Helge Vladimir Tiller 15 Apr 2013, 10:41am

    Today I cried some happy and optimistic tears for LOVELY IRELAND and my dear sisters and brothers, waiting for the future to sweep across Their Country.(Norway)

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 15 Apr 2013, 12:02pm

    And New Zealand is poised to pass equal marriage this Wednesday in it’s third and final reading in Parliament. Unlike the UK, there is no undemocratic upper chamber. So will it be number 13 or will it be France?

    1. Helge Vladimir Tiller 15 Apr 2013, 1:50pm

      GOOD LUCK TO NEW ZEALAND ! Some Community we are- Worldwide- !

      1. Opinon polls in New Zealand has shown that support for gay marriage has fallen since the bill started going through parliament, thanks, no doubt, to the homopobes anti campaign. If New Zealand was to have a referendum it’s not sure that same-sex marriage would win.

  6. I really hope Ireland gets marriage equality va legislation rather than referendum.

    It is utterly unacceptable that a minority’s rights are dependent on a vote.

    If the Irish constitution demands a vote then it is an appalling document.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 15 Apr 2013, 1:29pm

      As Liam points out, referenda are necessary to make any constitutional changes, regardless of equal marriage. It’s the way things are done there. Since this has the support of the majority of people supporting equal marriage in Ireland, I see no problem with it. Ireland could well get equal marriage before we do.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 15 Apr 2013, 1:30pm

        Correction, I meant Paddyswurds, not Liam’s.

      2. THE Fact that minority rights in Ireland are dependent on popular will is abhorrent.

        It means that equality can be denied to people on the whim of the public.

        A referendum on this must be loudly condemned. It sends an appalling message about Ireland’s commitment to human rights.

      3. What about countries where gay marriage does not have the support of the majority? The Irish precedent will mean that homophobes in those countries will always demand a referendum and this will set the legislative process to grant legal equality back decades.

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