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US: Mixed martial arts fighter suspended for calling trans woman a ‘disgusting freak’

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  1. I must admit, although I have watched ppv UFC fights during my visits to my local sports bar, I didn’t expect to be shocked to learn they were so LGBT friendly!

    “The UFC is a friend and ally of the LGBT community, and expects and requires all 450 of its athletes to treat others with dignity and respect.”

    Such that I applaud both their immediate response and the suspension! It’s inevitable this suspension will be appealed, however any decision made over the length of suspension or fine must be made conditional! The individual (any) who belong to UFC guilty of such conduct can’t be reinstated until they have undertaken and “successfully completed” appropriate human/societal awareness programs, and volunteered with a LGBT organization for a specific period. Non compliance should result in a lifetime ban!

    The UFC has the opportunity to show other sporting organizations they genuinely expect respect for dignity, and intolerance for abuse/disrespect.


  2. Gene in L.A. 10 Apr 2013, 3:02am

    It’s refreshing to see a major sport that lives in the present day. Thanks to the UFC for this demonstration of justice and tolerance.

  3. There is only one disgusting freak here and it is not Fallon Fox!

  4. Excellent response. Nobody should be talked about on those terms.

    I do, however, think there is a legitimate and respectful discussion to be had about the potential advantages a trans woman has within female competition that could be deemed unfair. In a combat sport like MMA that unfairness translates to a very real danger to other competitors and shouldn’t be overlooked for the sake of not hurting people’s feelings.

  5. Tom Cotner 10 Apr 2013, 3:11pm

    Someone who beats the crap out of another human being can logically and sincerely call someone else a disgusting freak?
    Hmm. I wonder just who needs the mirror.

  6. Rudehamster 10 Apr 2013, 3:26pm

    Firstly, I do not agree with fighting, wrestling, boxing or any other sport where assaulting another human being or animal is part of the game plan. I know nothing about UFC or their fighters. My view is as a health professional and a bystander to the issue.

    Secondly, and here I hate to throw a spanner in the works, but while Mitrione was undoubtedly out of order with his transphobic outburst, he does have a point about the wrestling issue.

    It’s not a sexuality issue, but a physical one. The musculature of a male fighter is, by and large, heavier than a female fighter. There are different training routines and a greater pressure can be put on some muscles that women cannot use as well. This could give anyone who has made the transition from male to female an advantage when it comes to fighting.

    Setting aside his rude and inappropriate language, I think Matt Mitrione has a point in calling into question the previous wins and future fights of Fallon Fox.

    1. With hormone replacement therapy, Fox’s body is that of a woman, not that of a mans, There is no physical issue.

    2. “Setting aside his rude and inappropriate language,”

      While that might be easy for someone who is not trans to do, I’d no sooner “set aside” such language anymore than I would a clansman calling someone a “n**ger” – nor would I consider any point they made thereafter. In engaging in his cissexist transphobic rant, he ceded any grounds anyone may have had to take him seriously.

      Aside from that, the Olympic committee has already established guidelines on accepting trans athletes, and unlike you, has done so in a way that takes into account biological facts on the subject. I suggest, seeing as how you are unqualified to speak with any authority on the issue (regardless of your “health professional” status, you defer to those that actually are.

  7. I believe the words he used were harsh and unnecessary but he has the right idea, the body of a man is on a different level of a females when it comes to sports its not sexist its fact. Look at the olympics, why do they have male and female divisions? And like Mitrione said its only 6 years ago she had this process and it doesn’t change your muscle composition. That being said I am for transgenders but when someone with a skeletal and muscular build and explosive force of a man decides to fight other women who are not transgenders then I think its completely wrong. Watch this for someone with the actual sport science knowledge and insight in fitness industry and his take on it.

    1. No he doesn’t have the right idea.

      ” body of a man is on a different level of a females ” – A trans woman who has undergone extensive HRT, does not in fact, have the body of a man, but why let a little thing like the facts get in the way of pushing ignorant nonsense?

      “Look at the olympics, why do they have male and female divisions?”

      Well, since you’ve brought up the Olympics, you’d think you’d have deferred to the Olympics WRT to trans athletes. Of course, their findings would undermine your point, so naturally, you’ve referenced some quack who made a youtube video instead.

  8. I’m not an expert in this, but I have several trans friends and try to be informed and know that the issue of people with a trans history (obviously only focussed on women) has been taken up a long time ago by several sports organisation, and that it has been ruled on scientific and medical grounds that women with a trans history have no physical advantage over cis women who do the same physical training…
    So, the bigots here are crying wolf again on a story that should be old hat…

    1. At least not I think that was a year after surgery.
      Well, I think it’s been 6 for Fox…..

  9. floridahank 10 Apr 2013, 5:26pm

    While his comments were too far out, he was correct in rejecting any fighter who is basically a man and because of some minor physiological change, can now compete with women who are basically less powerful than a male. So the unfair physical advatage should have been called out to the public. MMA is great physical competition and should be kept pure as much as possible.

    1. “he was correct in rejecting any fighter who is basically a man and because of some minor physiological change”

      And if that’s what this was, he might be correct. Unfortunately for the both of you, that characterization is flat out wrong.

      And as far as “basically a man” goes, how many men do you know that actively seek what amounts to chemical, followed by surgical castration of their bits?

      Trans woman are not “basically men”. I’m not sure whether you made that comment out of simple (and understandable) ignorance, or outright bigotry. Either way, you’re wrong on that as well.

      1. floridahank 10 Apr 2013, 8:52pm

        We don’t have all the physical/medical facts of this transformation, so I’ll drop the subject and just watch MMA fights and enjoy. I’ve got other more important activities on my agenda of figuring out the world’s problems.

        1. “We don’t have all the physical/medical facts of this transformation” – nor will you ever, nor are you entitled to them.

          ” so I’ll drop the subject and just watch MMA fights and enjoy.” – smashing good advice.

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