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Church in Wales to study gay relationships in order to ‘map out the way ahead’

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 10 Apr 2013, 4:45pm

    I fail to to see why examining the whole issue of same-sex relationships is necessary. Aren’t CPs sufficient proof just how good they can be and even better in a marriage. There is far less breakdown in CPs than hetero marriages per capita. I’ve no doubt we’ll put heteros to shame once equal marriage is introduced and then he will see just how in the words of Welby “stunning” our relationships can be.

  2. dorset bob 10 Apr 2013, 6:02pm

    They just dont get it do they, a same sex relationship is exactly the same as a mixed sex relationship. It dosent need studying, its a RELATIONSHIP.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 10 Apr 2013, 6:54pm

      Bob, it’s the icky part of our relationships, the sexual plumbing at the heart of it. During the early days of equal marriage in the Netherlands and the state of Massachusetts, they were confounded by advocates for equal marriage when we confronted them regarding the procreation red herring, suggesting that hetero couples who fail to or cannot procreate should also be banned from marriage. Speed forward to 2011 and on, they came up with the sexual complementarity crap. Archbigot Nichols of Westminster was asked in an interview last year if he would marry a straight couple who couldn’t procreate. He said he would because of the complementarity nonsense. It’s a new m.o. they’re now using to counter equal marriage advocacy but it really isn’t working that well for them. Uruguay and France being the latest examples. I’m insulted by Dr. Morgan’s statement, we all should.

  3. We don’t need studying – we’re not a new species on an Attenborough nature documentary. We just need equality. Stupid bigots.

    1. But all humans are worth studying – religious bigots in particular (and I don’t think Morgan is one) make fascinating research!

  4. Why does this need to be examined?

    This is offensive – because we’re so alien? because we’re not human? Because we’re not like every other loving relationship?

    They present us as alien to justify their bigotry

    1. Actually I get the impression Morgan is a rather decent old fellow and his heart is in the right place, even if he’s come out sounding a tad patronising.

  5. If you have a doctrinal commission, what else are you going to do with it?

    I’d love to know if they are going to study real people. Where will they find them? Probably not in church.

    33,000 active worshippers out of 3 million. Oh dear, what an insignificant organisation they are.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 10 Apr 2013, 7:01pm

      As religious hetero marriages are on the decline, thankfully so, maybe one day they’ll wake up and realisewhy their numbers are dwindling. 33,000 active worshippers is embarassing, pitiful and so too is less than 1 million out of 60 million in the UK as a a whole. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why the numbers are dwindling so rapidly. He can whistle in the wind for all I care.

  6. As if they didn’t know!

    Why don’t they just ask each other?

  7. Study our relationships! What a bloody impertinence. With a view to what? Study your own sodding relationships? I’m not asking for your endorsement or approval. I’m telling you to stop making decisions that deny me the rights that you take for granted. Discrimination is wrong. You shouldn’t need to study anything (maybe apart from history if you must) to understand that. Would you have needed to study the Jews before understanding that anti-semitism is wrong; or black and white relationships before knowing that forbidding mixed race marriage is wrong. I could go on buy my next step would take me to my vegetarianism and I know that wouldn’t necessarily find favour – but think about it.

    1. Seems to me, there have been gays in Wales longer than there have been Christians there. Who should be studying whom?

      1. I like that; but would it repay the effort. Have a nice day ;-)

  8. What this really means is: “We’ve lost the battle. If we want to survive in any form, we’d better start being nice to them”. Personally, I couldn’t give a toss if they study their own asses. Organized religion of this type is a total anachronism. Tiny numbers of followers and it only receives high-profile attention because of it’s State position and ‘tradition’. High time we cut State and Religion loose.

  9. Robert in S. Kensington 12 Apr 2013, 1:06pm

    More worthwhile would be research and study of religious addiction, a chosen lifestyle based on a collection of ancient writings and contradictions by wandering tribes in the middle east dominated by males, the contents of which cannot be proved.

  10. interesting- only 1 in 100 goes to church in wales

    I also have a link that says that 1100 people a day leave xtiantiy in England(?GR BR) every day

    The CoE had better accecpt and support gays marrying, at least under civil law, or we wont have to deal with it at all within 5 years or so.

    It s up them. Xtian compassion should have had them supporting marriage long ago.

    Now if we can only finish off the islam of the west , HQ in rome, the world will finally leave behind much of the dark ages legagy.

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