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X Factor singer Rylan Clark deletes Margaret Thatcher tweet

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  1. Rylan did NOT describe Margaret Thatcher as a “legend”, why don’t you report the information correctly? The deleted tweet was in fact “Sad news about Margaret Thatcher x”. A big difference there!

    1. So I see the story has been edited taking out the part where it said that Rylan had deleted a tweet describing Margaret Thatcher as a “legend”. Better late than not at all I guess!

  2. Section 28 was in 1988, do you think the debate on equal marriage would have happened back then. It was a very different place. Look at how some of them go on about the end of the world now. Back then it would have been 10 times worse.

    I suspect she would have been behind us now after all she did vote to decriminalise being gay and progress takes time. We all know that views have changed around us very quickly.

    1. Paul Essex/London 9 Apr 2013, 7:59pm

      True enough that the gay marriage debate would never have happened in ’87. But by putting in s28 she ensured the young people from 1987 to 2003 were kept in a time warp until they left school, for many the poison of negative stereotyping had already set in by that point. I was at secondary school from 91-97 and during that time we discussed many ethical, moral and social issues including abortion, rape, ethnic cleansing, racism and euthanasia. Discussions that for many of us didn’t happen at home. Yet homosexuality was airbrushed out of our world. There was no avenue for any of my teachers to say that the feelings I was having were OK and I wasn’t some sort of pervert. I remember one teacher telling us she’d gone on a training course where another woman came out, and how she and everyone else didn’t have a problem with it. She was so wary about telling us I thought she actually did have a problem, it was only years later that I realised it was her fear of being held in breach of s28.

  3. That’s a bit better, Pink News. Now you have reported relevant information about this frightful Tory figure who intentionally did so much damage to the LGBTs of the UK.

  4. Brett Gibson 9 Apr 2013, 2:09pm

    If it is true is doesn’t surprise me. Rylan doesn’t seem the type to know anything about gay issues or history.

  5. Oooops! Another person I had to look up!

    (Rylan that is, not Thatcher)

  6. It was illegal to “promote homosexuality”. We wre put in the same catagory as smoking, fattyfood and alcohol abuse. Gay people have short memories. I know gay men who continued to vote for Thatcher and still vote for the Tory party. They areso shallow, with an ” I’m all ight Jack” mentality

  7. Almost as bad as a gay website posting a story about Thatcher claiming she was a “controversial’ “gay icon”, eh, Pink News?

  8. Shameless self-promoter and nouveau riche airhead. I can’t think of a better personification of Thatcher’s legacy than Rylan Clark.

  9. BlokeToys 9 Apr 2013, 8:02pm

    The whole section 28 thing is infuriating!

    like it or not, we weren’t popular back then, and Thatcher was actually following public sentiment.

    She was reportedly for gay rights for years before becoming PM, and she supported decriminalization too. But because she agreed with public sentiment in creating Section 28 she’s supposed to be the most evil PM ever?

    You can blame public opinion and perception for Section 28, not just the leader of the time.

    I have a feeling a lot of people commenting on this now don’t remember, or were not even born, when this happened.

    As for Tatchell (a man I personally admire for his tireless campaigning), was the violence really a result of her policies, or where her policies and that violence a result of a biased medical and scientific community, and the homophobic influence of the church?

    People are looking at this with 20/20 hindsight, and forgetting the frame of time and public perception.

    1. But it wasn’t just Section 28. There was an increased effort by the police to keep tabs on, and arrest, gay men. That might not have been Thatcher’s fault but as the leader, who knew gay men personally and appeared to treat them with a great deal of respect, she should have known better.

      Leaders don’t “follow” public sentiment when they know something is wrong. Well good ones don’t.

    2. Popular what on earth are you on about? Section 28 was a crime against humanity, it does not matter what year or decade in which this aborhent policy got pushed through. The political/social ziergiest should not be used for excuse for a certain political prescription.

      I was at school when this pathetic excuse of a policy was rolled out, it encouraged, hating & loathing. I know it made other gay people frightend to come out and many people died. I know I was a suicidal teen when I was younger because I had nobody to talk too about my situation. I cannot tell you happy I was when section 28 got repelled & I want no other child to go through that same pain. This is my 20/20 hindsight and if I was an adult at this time, I would of activley fought against it wether it was popular or not. It was a complete and utter social injustice.

  10. Kids today!

  11. David Myers 9 Apr 2013, 10:09pm

    Not only was Thatcher an evil force on GLBTQ rights she was also a negative influence on human rights per se, except for the rights of the rich and powerful.

  12. I was a young(ish!) adult when 28 came out, and it was purely and simply a way to find a useful scapegoat and demonise them, much as single mothers had been before, and the sick and disabled are now. The then Government obviously thought that they had a ‘safe’ target, who were not only unpopular with the press, but who would not fight back. It backlashed on them bigtime, as I and thousands like me, said ‘we are not taking this shit anymore’ and became politically and socially active.

  13. Oh how I see this happening her ein the US. We have our own Thatcher. His name is Bill Clinton. Just like Ms. Thatcher, Bill did not have to sign DOMA. The damage done by that alone is monumental. Yes he has no come out in spupport of marriage equality but it doesn’t make up for all the hurt and damage caused by DOMA and Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.

  14. The following link was posted by Eddy yesterday when the story broke (thank you!)

    http://www.glbtq.com/blogs/the_legacy_of_margaret_thatcher.html

    Maybe Rylan (and perhaps there are others of his generation) who should read it!

    It’s probably the most insightful and concise timeline of Thatchers legacy I have seen. Rylan’s generation in part have a genuine excuse, Things like this are not history learned in school. It is indication despite there thinking that things haven’t been as today, and why Peter Thatchel and his supporters are owed gratitude for their tireless work to change this legacy and rewrite history.

    1. I also recommend (it’s quite a read 16 pages) “UK 1900 to present” It certainly pulls together the people, places and events we might have heard of but not known the full facts of this time line of progress.

      http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/united_kingdom_02.html

  15. de Villiers 10 Apr 2013, 7:31am

    I have not commented on the death of Margaret Thatcher – it is not for me as I am not English and others really seem to be traumatised by her – plus than twenty years after she retreated.

    It is a bit sinister though, how people who do want to speak to support or even merely to show acknowledgment to a democratic politician who won elections, led the country and relinquished power without engaging in black activities (such as President Mitterrand) are so mercilessly bullied.

    Perhaps people will respond to say that Margaret Thatcher also bullied gay people and so her supporters deserve it – but it looks like just another form of bullying and a division of persons into “our people” and “their people”.

    Perhaps all English people are more affected by Margaret Thatcher than they realise – including her opponents.

    1. de Villiers, Peoples reaction to her passing has shocked many around the world who knew her from involvement in global politics. Her domestic policies are the reason for the vitriolic outpouring.During her time, she became the most hated prime minister the Uk known in recent memory. Although she is credited by some tor making the UK the global and financial powerhouse it became.

      Whilst PM, her domestic policy was deeply divisive Her policies affecting the gay community whilst significant, were only part of the reason so many people are so vitriolic. Her policies and taxes destroyed whole industries and communities in UK. The impact broke up many families and many have never recovered. She impoverished a whole class of people and generation unlikely to ever speak well of, or forgive her.

      The miners strike is only a part of this reaction, but I do say if you want to see why the country has reacted the way it has watch “Billie Elliot” it depicts so well the despair caused in the 80′s.

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