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Actor Alan Cumming blasts Jeremy Irons for his ‘ignorant’ anti-gay marriage views

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  1. Jock S. Trap 5 Apr 2013, 1:43pm

    It is ridiculous. There’s nothing in law to allow such pathetic proposals.

    Yet again it’s just assumptions on bigoted lines. If they can’t get what They want they’ll trash it in any way they can.

    Well Done Alan.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Apr 2013, 2:07pm

      I totally concur. The Matrimonial Causes Act also clearly forbids polygamy or bigamy as it is sometimes referred to. The Act nullifies any such marriage not in compliance with the marriage laws ot England and Wales.

      Alan is so right. Irons has also contradicted himself claiming he has no views either way, yet resorts to a spurious tirade regarding fathers marrying their sons? I remember the same allusions during the CP debate. It sounds as if his mind is already made up. What a stupid man.

  2. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Apr 2013, 1:44pm

    Scott Roberts, with respect, Alan Cumming didn’t ‘remarry’ his partner. He has however remarried, since he was once married to a woman, Hilary Lyon for 8 years. CPs in the UK aren’t marriages no matter how some regard them and according to the 1973 Marriage Causes Act, it defines marriage as between one man and one woman. It was never revised to include CPs but will be once equal marriage is legal.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Apr 2013, 2:02pm

      Matrimonial Causes Act is the correct title.

    2. Delighted to see you have made that point, Robert!

      PinkNews journalists must NOT describe same-sex “civil union partners” as “husbands”.

      Only when we are “lifted” to the status whereat we are permitted to marry may same-sex males refer to each other as husband and same-sex females refer to each other as wife.

      I shall now press “Report” to hopefully bring this to the attention of PN staff.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Apr 2013, 5:40pm

        Exactly, Eddy. In this case, it is not a question of semantics either. CPs and Marriage are entirely different in the way they are contracted no matter how the former are regarded. The law does not regard them as marriages, no matter how many rights of marriage they confer.

  3. Well, I can see where Jezzer is coming from… If my son was Sam Irons I would want to marry him too… He is gorgeous and talented!

  4. I don’t see fathers running to marry their daughters to avoid inheritance tax. I wonder why?

    1. That There Other David 5 Apr 2013, 2:19pm

      According to Irons, because that would be incest, but it isn’t incest if the offspring were a boy. Therefore equal marriage will instantly result in fathers and sons battering down the doors of CoE churches demanding to be hitched or something.

      Yeah, that’s what passes for logic in Jeremy Iron’s mind apparently. Incredible that he can dress himself eh?

      1. nixiotemba 5 Apr 2013, 4:36pm

        do popes dress themselves??

      2. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Apr 2013, 5:56pm

        David, Irons is a god-botherer. It’s also the compulsive obsession with sex among these bigots, you know, the penis/vagina nonsense and moreover, gay sex that’s at the heart of this debate, otherwise he wouldn’t have stupidly posited the father/son red herring to foment resistance to equal marriage.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Apr 2013, 5:46pm

      I think that has to do with primogeniture in the UK, i.e. inheritances passing to the eldest son if there is no surviving spouse even if there happens to be an older daughter in the family, one who is older than the oldest son. I believe the inheritance law will be changed once the royal successor to the throne law is amended to reflect who is next in line to the throne regardless of gender and whoever is the oldest sibling.

  5. Well said Mr Cummings. Jeremy Irons has set a hare running. We should ignore the hare and shoot Mr Irons. (And please no one interpret that as incitement to kill). I didn’t know that Alan Cumming is gay. Nice one!

  6. OMG,it's a slippery slope!! 5 Apr 2013, 3:19pm

    “Jeremy Irons thinks gay marriage would ‘debase’ it and lead to fathers marrying their sons.”

    OMG,it’s a slippery slope!!

  7. Calan Auming 5 Apr 2013, 3:21pm

    The man lied on Question Time, saying he was a citizen of Scotland during the Scotland Votes debates –
    He was challenged by this from an audience member, in fact, I think I may have it wrong, it might me New York.

    He is not a person I would trust to get quotes from – gay or not.

    Gay or not, sell out Mr Cumming

    1. To be fair to him it would be the first time in recorded history someone pretended to come from Scotland when they didn’t.

    2. Cummings has dual British/American nationality. Yes, he is a subject of Her Majesty in Scotland, just as much as he is a citizen of the US (in New York and elsewhere).

    3. What a load of old tripe Calan. Alan Cummings has dual citizenship and was born in Scotland and lived most of his life in Scotland. Besides, what has your point got to do with the article? Nothing. Cummings is a well known actor who has rightly criticised another well known actor for making ignorant and offensive comments. He should be congratulated for standing up for equal marriage.

  8. JAN MORTELMANS 5 Apr 2013, 3:46pm

    you are right
    i am 63 and have 4 children
    I love young boys

  9. Jeremy Iron’s comments were just a sign of how not very bright a lot of the ‘stars’ of Hollywood are. They’re fine when they’re given scripts or asked to speak on an appeal for some charity. But scratch the surface and you’d question whether a few of them could scratch their arse without assistance. The comments by Jeremy Irons just spoke of someone who didn’t get out much. Like a child would ask would would happen to the moon full of cheese of God left the sky’s fridge door open. We should just have said ‘Aww bless’ and moved on

    1. You’re quite right, but in any event Irons isn’t really a Hollywood star, he’s been in as many European and independent films as Hollywood ones, and probably more TV than either – and usually in supporting roles.

  10. Angela S. 5 Apr 2013, 4:12pm

    Well said by Alan!
    The remark by Irons was jist incredibly stupid, and ignorant.

  11. The thing is that for some reason we tend to assume that all actors are somehow smart, intelligent people who are not bigots.

    Irons comments remind us not to stereotype. He may be able to act but clearly he is also not particularly bright, and surprisingly ignorant.

    Because of his acting success he is privileged with the fact that when he talks publicly people listen. However the guy has done himself no favours by using his pedestal to spout utter crap and dribble and expose to the world what he really is.

    One of the great things about the global marriage equality debate is that it has flushed the bigots and homophobes out for us all to see.

    1. That There Other David 5 Apr 2013, 4:45pm

      “The thing is that for some reason we tend to assume that all actors are somehow smart, intelligent people who are not bigots. ”

      That idea is long gone. If anyone thinks that way you only have to mention Mel Gibson and they’ll change their minds :-)

  12. It’s also rather endearing that it’s Scott’s brother who put the videoclip on YouTube.

    1. Sorry, ignore – posted on the wrong thread by mistake.

  13. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Apr 2013, 6:00pm

    Don’t be surprised if he suddenly back-pedals on this one. He’ll probably say his comments were taken out of context and he didn’t mean to offend anyone. That’s how homophobic bigots operate, double down when the heat is on them to save face and shield their careers from harm. He’ll have to do a lot better than that to convince me.

  14. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Apr 2013, 6:10pm

    To digress, the French senate just defeated a call for a voter referendum on equal marriage, 340 votes cast; 164 votes ‘for’ and 176 votes ‘against’. A very close call. Take note Burrowes and Loughton, civil rights should never be put to mob rule.

  15. It sounds to me like an attempt, and a rather feeble one, by a second rate actor at propping up a flagging career. If actual good acting doesn’t work, try controversy.

    1. He’s only ever made one thing of any note, that was ‘Brideshead Revisited’ and that was 30+ years ago. He came into the public eye on a high and has been on a downward spiral ever since. He’s lived off the back of that role all this time. I think this was an ill-advised attempt to get himself noticed by producers and let them know that he is still alive and desperate for a job.

  16. There’s an expression in Spanish: Cada loco con su tema, sort of, everyone’s nuts in their own way. Alan Cumming is outraged at someone’s opposing same-sex marriage (I am outraged, too), yet Cumming is an “intactivist” who seeks to make it illegal for people to have their children circumcised.

    1. So, what is so abhorrent about wanting to protect children by outlawing their needless physical mutilation? Circumcision SHOULD be illegal unless there are valid medical grounds for doing it.

    2. So female genital mutilation is ok with you? Just Google it and look at pictures. Child abuse of 1st degree.

    3. Thanks, Anjinsan and myself, for providing examples of the oppressive, judgmental self-righteous indignation to which I was referring. One of my favorite slogans from the gay marriage debate, from the “pro” side, is “If you don’t believe in same-sex marriage, then don’t have one.” So I’d like to add, “If you don’t believe in circumcision, then don’t have your son circumcised.” Gay marriage opponents always trot out protecting “the children” to justify their oppression. What’s the lesson here? People need to leave each other the hell alone.

  17. Spanner1960 6 Apr 2013, 4:00pm

    Pointless.
    One twat actor reprimanding another.

    Can’t these people just get on and do movies and things and stop sticking their heads in matters that don’t concern them? Anybody would think they were authorities on the great and the good.

    1. Jim edwards 8 Apr 2013, 10:28am

      I agree. What does it matter what actors think about anything other than acting?

    2. Jim Edwards 8 Apr 2013, 10:31am

      I agree. What does it matter what actors think about anything other then acting?

  18. Mickie Newton 10 Apr 2013, 3:48am

    My view of that man completely changed when I read his ridiculous remarks!

    Loved how in the first breath he said he had no opinion about marriage equality and then followed it with this crap!!!

    Well done Alan for speaking for us all!!!

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