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UK: Hate crime charity welcomes Greater Manchester Police’s decision to record attacks on subculture groups

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  1. Absolutely pathetic. all attacks, for any reason should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
    To say one attack is any worse than another is the worst kind justice.
    I am convinced that all “special” interest groups such as yours create more problems than they solve and until all people are treated with respect whatever their colour/creed/sexuality etc, then no amount of special grouping will help.
    As I said, pathetic.

    1. what, even a father who attacks his daughter’s rapist? that’s as bad as a group of thugs attacking a skinny 16 year old boy for having black hair and piercings (or whatever)

      you seem very keen for everything to be black and white, and for there to be one reason for everything. but it just ain’t so.

      1. Well, as can be seen from the Sophie Lancaster Foundation, a group of thugs attacking someone who has different beliefs and expression , can be fatal. Crimes against those, who are visibly different is fascist prejudice and a Hate crime.

    2. But surely if somebody is deliberately targeting groups of people or individuals simply because they don’t like the way they look, or disagree with their lifestyle, that is a hate crime? I think you might be delibrately missing the point John.

    3. Paula Thomas 4 Apr 2013, 3:49pm

      I would agree if the Police had limitless resources. They don’t so prioritisation is needed. If someone attacks someone else because they are a member of a group that person is likely to go on to be violent to others. Possibly that violence will escalate.

  2. Where someone is singled out and attacked, the attackers should be penalised really heavily. There should not be privileged groups among attackers or victims.

    It is the attackers who should be fearful of the law, not the innocent individuals, no matter how unusual their dress sense. They are harming nobody.

    A truly liberal society would come down hard on the criminals to protect the liberty of the innocent. I know too many people who are scared to travel at night.

    1. I agree on principle, that all crimes committed by scum should have equal merit under the law. Unfortunately, certain groups are more likely to be victims of crime and persecution by simply being who they are , many of whom are scared to travel by day let alone night.

  3. GingerlyColors 5 Apr 2013, 8:02am

    People who are gay, from an ethnic minority or disabled have no choice in the way they are. Those who wish to follow a sub-culture whether it is punks, goths, heavy-metal etc do so through personal choice. By adding followers of sub-cultures and musical tastes to the list of people who need to be protected from hate crimes risks the endangerment of the definition of the word, ‘Hate Crime’ becoming blurred. Would the violence between Mods and Rockers of the 1960’s as depicted in ‘Quadrophenia’ be classed as ‘hate crime’. The truth is that violence, especially when unprovoked is unacceptable and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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