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Irish Catholic bishop: ‘Attempts to equate same-sex unions with marriage will always fail’

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  1. Remind me: how successful was the RC church in stopping divorce and abortion in Ireland?

    I think we already know how this one will end.

    1. ….. not to mention child abuse!!! Silly bugger doesn’t know the difference between Marriage and Holy Matrimony !!!!!

  2. Here we go again! Same old hymn sheet. Same dreary old singers.

    If such a ‘natural’ inequality really does exist, it’s even more important that government does all it can to level the playing field

  3. Here we go again.

    Marriage is not and never was about procreation; what about those straight couples who choose not to have children, are unable to or those outside child bearing age?

    We have said it before and we will continue to do so.

    Thankfully, you are your ilk are a dying breed and people are waking up to your ridiculous and pointless rhetoric!

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Apr 2013, 12:32pm

      They have a new response to childless couples. Infertile couples now get a pass on this because of the ‘sexual complementarity’ as they now call it. I suppose they believe a miracle could happen and a child could possibly ensue. Again, it’s not just god in the mix but their obsession with sex, more than anything.

      1. That There Other David 3 Apr 2013, 11:20am

        What’s to stop a similar miracle resulting in two lesbians conceiving a child then? Or a man getting pregnant? I mean, if we’re justifying arguments by running into the realm of fantasy anything is possible right?

  4. “An Irish bishop says same-sex relationships can never be seen as “equal” to heterosexual relationships.”

    Which is exactly why we need equal marriage rights in civil law, to protect us from exactly the discriminatory attitudes expressed by Christopher Jones.

  5. Usual dog in a manger posturing from the likes of Mr Jones.
    Would someone call Jurassic Park, it looks like one of their dinosaurs got loose.

  6. Penny Marie Sautereau 2 Apr 2013, 12:29pm

    Funny, it is over here in Canada.

    1. Exactly!

  7. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Apr 2013, 12:29pm

    Well then Mr. Jones, when the people of Ireland vote in a referendum to legalise equal marriage and they will, then your theory will have been debunked, useless tosser. The public are always ahead of the cults. The RC cult has also threatened to stop marrying couples if it’s introduced. Issuing threats like that will only bring on its demise even faster. All hot air. Let them dare try it and then they’ll really find out just how much they are reviled.

  8. We need to remember that the Roman Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon and the handmaiden of Satan.

    1. That’s a bit unfair on satan. He is after all pro-gay.

  9. Says the old, never been married, allegedly celibate man who therefore, has no idea WHAT he’s talking about except as an intellectual exercise and even more-so as the continued and ongoing regurgitation of dated religious opinion.

  10. Old bigot who never had a romantic relationship other than with his hand says what?

  11. Another celibate Priest and Paedophile enabler who doesn’t live in the real World, spouting the same old nonsense. Go back to worshiping your imaginary friend and leave us alone.

  12. I really feel the gloves need to be taken off against the catholic church. They need to be listed as a hate group not a charity with millions of pounds and dollars and euro. They are basking in riches while millions starve and do no pay tax as they are tax exempt. What a joke.

  13. When are these people going to realize that this is about civil rights and fairness? Their argument of the Catholic Church always boils down to the idea of sex having to allow for procreation. Is that even realistic in 2013? How many straight married couples are wanting to get pregnant or willing to risk that possibility every time they have sex? Isn’t companionship and intimacy and end in itself? I think their argument is irrational and rooted in the Church’s historical prejudice.against LGBT people.

  14. I’m amazed I agree with him. The civil part of the ceremony should not be performed in a church. Bring it on. And in the news today a number of churches are to close due to lack of funds.

  15. Now come on, own up. Who read beyond “An Irish Bishop says….”?

  16. Dave North 2 Apr 2013, 2:22pm

    Oh do go and have a w@nk you stupid old man.

    It’s the only love you will ever know.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Apr 2013, 4:28pm

      I think he does, excessively, judging by the red face and a few jars of Irish whiskey.

  17. Brett Gibson 2 Apr 2013, 2:30pm

    I think the gay rights movement of the last 13 years would highly disagree with you.

  18. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Apr 2013, 2:42pm

    Another one probably succumbing to O’Brien syndrome.

  19. Attempts to equate Roman Catholicism with Christianity will always fail

    1. Ian, the Roman Catholicism of today and of centuries past arose naturally out of the utterly determined and vicious Xianity that was established by zealots in the Near East, Greece, and Rome 2,000 years ago.

      Let’s not imagine that Xianity is some kind of lovely, sweet, cuddly thing while Roman Catholicism is the opposite. The fact is they are essentially one and the same. That does not mean to say, however, that there are some Xians and some RCs (and some Protestants) who are amazingly liberal and progressive and quite at odds with the precepts of the vile Xianity that was initiated 2,000 years ago.

      2,000 years ago, those who refused to convert to Xianity were persecuted brutally and horribly by the first Xians.

  20. Jock S. Trap 2 Apr 2013, 3:03pm

    Another sex obsessed bigot.

    They choose not to see all relationships are equal regardless of gender and sexual orientation (between adults for the nutjob that frequents here). All they can do is live life by assumptions, not fact.

    Very sad to be so limited in life. We’re here for a short time and we have to get the most of out life not constantly question it. It’s why these nasty bigots will never understand life and relationships. They’re too busy analysing it all the time.

    This is really why they are obsessed by us… because they are jealous of us.

  21. Has marriage not been more consistently ‘attacked’ by RC clergymen who make a conscious decision to avoid it?

  22. “same-sex relationships can never be seen as “equal” to heterosexual relationships.”

    No, they are often better. You don’t even have a relationship so how would you even be in a position to have the slightest idea.

  23. Staircase2 2 Apr 2013, 4:08pm

    “Any change to the definition of marriage would create great difficulties”

    Lol my arse would it!

    What is it about these people that they’ve lost the ability to think, let alone actually espouse any of Jesus’s actual message…?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Apr 2013, 4:26pm

      I’d like him to tell us what those great difficulties are with 11 countries that have already introduced it? Uruguay will be the 12th country today. Obviously no difficulties there or France on thursday.

      1. Never seen as equal?
        Never seen as equal?…what a twit.
        I must tell that to my partner of 56 years!!

        1. Jean-Paul 2 Apr 2013, 5:32pm

          56 !! WOW ! Congrats, buddy.

  24. One of the British Lords once said, in a letter that “power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts, absolutely”. In earlier times most societies were basically agrarian, and most of the people uneducated, so the church was seen as most knowledgable and depended upon for guidance. the church saw it as means to establish a power base and control all facets of both common and political life. That’s all the church has ever been about, power to dictate at its will. Times have changed and the populace is better educated and are headed toward a more humanistic and humane attitude. This change is eroding the church’s power base, increasingly, so is it any wonder they’ve become more and more strident about equal rights? In the universe there is only one constant, and that is change.

    1. Dave North 2 Apr 2013, 9:03pm

      ” In the universe there is only one constant, and that is change.”

      And they are failing miserably to deal with it.

  25. .....Paddyswurds 2 Apr 2013, 11:36pm

    First to get the terrible grammar out of the way Mr Roberts…. You wrote “Mr Jones spoke of their being a “potential impact” on the relationship between the “family and the State, notably in relation to the rights of children”.” wrongly. It should be “Mr Jones spoke of there being a “potential impact” on the relationship between the “family and the State, notably in relation to the rights of children”. ………….
    This Jones character has been making pronouncements for yeras and no one takes a blind bit of notice as he is seen as ignorant and backward. He tried to blame the awful paedophilia in Ireland on the victims ffs….. The man is a deluded creep, frankly.

  26. yada yada…..

  27. johnny33308 3 Apr 2013, 5:28am

    Funny, I thought this was about applying all of the laws of the land EQUALLY for ALL citizens, regardless of ANY status, as our respective governments have always claimed had already been done, leaving us LGBT people out, of course. We seek to rectify this ‘oversight’ and so we are asserting our Civil Rights as understood in context of our Human Rights, and making this final push to fix this for the future of humanity. Our Rights are Human Rights, and those rights supercede any government or religion. This is what all of this is about, Human Rights for ALL people, everywhere, really…all humans, once and for all…henceforth…and we will bring this about! All of us together. Our gift…

  28. … and this, from an organisation which prevents its front-line representatives from marrying. These people make me want to vomit and I wish their mind-controlling, morally-bankrupt outfit would just disappear into the realm of history, where it belongs. Then, perhaps the rest of us could all just get along….without their constant bleating about ‘god will get you for not doing as we say’ rubbish.

  29. ……this person is very ignorant and does not know what he’s saying. Heterosexual couples are in no way better or are guaranteed to stay together longer than Homosexuals. I despise this stupid sweeping remark and he ought to be removed from the Church.

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