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Vice chair of Christians in Parliament urges Lord Carey to focus on global poverty and not on attacking equal marriage

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  1. Jock S. Trap 1 Apr 2013, 4:08pm

    I think the fact these religious figures have used certainly holidays, notably for peaceful means AND World Peace Day to attack and discriminate against some in society puts them firmly on the real footing they intend, to show all what religion is really all about.

    This is why others are trying to silence them because they fear these so called leaders are revealing the true identity if such bigoted religions.

    It is far from the Peace and Love they try to promote but of hatred and vile discrimination, to stop any way of humanity from progressing.

    Religion is the one true Evil of this world.

  2. BlokeToys 1 Apr 2013, 4:10pm

    You know what annoys me the most about all of this? The fact that we have religious interests forming groups in our government!

    Separation of church and state is a complete myth and a farce. There should be no Christian organizations in parliement, just as there should be no Muslim groups, or $cientology groups!

    There should be no religious influence in any aspect of a democratically elected government, none at all!

    Individuals can believe what they want to believe, but no MP, Lord or other gov employee should be preching their insanity in a position of government, the should be making decisions based on the betterment of their country and its people – not based on ridiculous fairy tales!

    Man, this insanity makes me so damn angry!

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Apr 2013, 4:19pm

      I understand and agree with your statement, but even in countries like France with no state religion much of the opposition has come from religious members of government, those who are incapable of separating personal beliefs from secular legislation affecting only one small group of people. They were in lock-step with the protesters in Paris. It would be impossible to eradicate it entirely from government, any government really, as much as we would like it.

      I only hope the Lords think hard if they are really considering a defeat of the bill with such a large majority in favour of equal marriage in the Commons. and knowing that the Parliament Act could and hopefully will be invoked. It would really serve them no purpose to oppose it in this case, not with a majority or 400-175 in the Commons. Delaying it for a year is only postponing the obvious.

    2. Yes indeed, or have the honesty to stand as religious candidates on a theocratic platform. Much easier to piggy back in by using the mainstream parties of course.

    3. There are dozens of special interest groups in Parliament. As MPs are open and honest in declaring their interests, what is your problem?

      Churches behave like lobby groups, and should be treated as such. Making religion a special case gives it an importance it doesn’t deserve – ‘banning’ beliefs seldom ends well.

  3. Lord scary Carey should hurry up and die the poisonous old prune.

  4. The christians are realising their bigotry is transparent and they need to shut up.

  5. Not good enough, *Lord* Bates: those religious volk who are self-advertisingly sooo concerned with world poverty who don’t want to abide by British law by hosting gay marriages ceremonies should be forced to pay a tax, the pro eeds of with will go to ameliorate ‘world poverty’. Can you object to that and remain authentic?

  6. EqualityFinesse 1 Apr 2013, 8:00pm

    This is very good news indeed as it’s now becoming a lot harder for the religious fundamentalists to ignore being called on their bigotry from within their own ranks.

    What LBGT people have achieved is to force these fundie bigots to show their hand sounding off and making ever more clamorous and bigoted statements to gain column inches in newspapers and exposure on the media.

    Now, fairminded and balanced christians are becoming much more aware of the fundies who claim to be speak in their name which everyone with half an operative brain cell knows is an errant load of rubbish and simply a justification for the fundies’ own homophobia!

    Then again, any house divided against itself will fall…

  7. I agree: there should bi no place for established religion in a modern liberal democracy. I also hold to the view that religious claims should not be privileged over any other conscience claims. We aren’t there yet. In the meantime thus silly man should rethink his priorities; or learn some discretion; or, my preferred option, retire properly.

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