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Archbishop of New York: Gay couples are only ‘entitled to friendship’, not sex

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  1. And this is revelatory how?

  2. ya-a-A-A-A-A-a-a-w-nnnnnnnn

  3. Chris Vogel 31 Mar 2013, 7:42pm

    Hmm, “friendship”, eh. Let’s see what that means, exactly. Until recently, when modern secular governments put an end to it, that meant persecution, torture, murder. Now that the Roman church considers us only “objectively disordered”, and our desire for equality to be the “product of satan”, it means that the Roman church has never, ever, not anywhere, done or supported anyone else doing anything like decriminalization, protection from being fired or evicted (having done some of that themselves), or from violence or bullying, let alone allowing all of the hundreds of legal implications for a relationship that depend on being married. Oh wait, of course, the Roman church has heatedly opposed, always, everywhere, every step towards fair treatment of homosexuals. Looks like the Roman church’s idea of “friendship” is the same ridiculous fabrication as are all of their other beliefs.

  4. johnny33308 31 Mar 2013, 7:49pm

    And you my dear bigot are NOT in any way shape or form entitled to tell anyone what they may be “entiltled” to…..I decide what I am entitled to, not you ar anyone else.

  5. “A decision by the Supreme Court in both cases is expected by the end of June.

    Last year, an official affiliated with the New York Roman Catholic archdiocese, quit the junior board of Catholic Charities over a heterosexuals-only policy implemented by the church for homeless people.

    The resignation came after Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who heads the largest archdiocese in the US, failed to respond to a “call for help” for homeless youths who are not heterosexual.”
    So this “prince of the church” would rather let someone leave a position of supporting the work of helping the poor and disadvantaged rather than see gays and lesbians included int the ranks of those that the church might help?! How wonderfully “Christ-like” if you, dress-wearing, red-faced, over-fed embarrassment to humanity!

  6. Mumbo Jumbo 31 Mar 2013, 8:25pm

    It would be more useful to say that priests are not entitled to rape children and then organise a cover-up.

  7. Your sexuality is not a choice, peeps.

    Whether to be a Catholic, or remain one, is very much a choice.

    Just walk away from them all.

    You’ll be glad you did.

    Keith.
    SALFORD

    1. Well said Keith! I was a Catholic until age 28. I just decided to leave, and have never looked back! Best decision of my life. Wish Id done it sooner, but at least I did it! Cheers.

  8. “sexual love…is intended only for a man and a woman”.

    Or a priest and a choirboy? Can readers from New York let us know if this individual has ever spoken publicly against child abuse by clergy?

    1. What goes on between a priest and a choirboy may be sexual, but it ain’t love.

      1. johnny33308 1 Apr 2013, 6:50am

        and it is without CONSENT!

  9. What do you do if you don’t like a programme on the telly..?
    You switch off/go for a walk/make a stir-fry/Scrabble with Aunty Ada.
    What’s the point in getting all hot and bothered over some daft old plonkers, all dragged up in daft fents? Oh and by the way, have you seen the latest silly hat..? Clock Welby’s.
    Ffs; I thought Williams was a hoot in his Bird’s Custard creations but Welby is a hot contender in his latest blue millinery number. Gawd.
    Laff at the lot of ‘em till yer sox fall off. And do your own thing.
    They do.
    So YOU do the same.
    Just remove yer bum from their pews.
    I did 50+ years ago.
    And let them get on with it.
    It’s great and it all ends in ash, anyway.
    Keith
    SALFORD

  10. Well this is obviously common sense. A man’s rectum is meant for excreting human excrement, not violently forcing another man’s genitals in. Its really is simple biology and science. No wonder people who indulge in such perverse behaviour have to name call against their critics, since they cant come up with a logical response. Stop making ‘sex’ into a ‘god’ and enjoy friendship with other men, instead of degrading yourselves.

    1. theGentleWarrior 31 Mar 2013, 9:37pm

      “Common sense”, ya right up there with other words to watch for signs of lies “I’d just like to say I’m not a racist”, “Some of my best friends are gay” and , “I’m not a violent man”

      “. A man’s rectum” what about a woman’s rectum? or has God listed that one as nice and man’s one as naughty. Tell me, has he checked twice?

      I guess you might be 0.0000000′ 0001 % right about “not violently forcing” in the rape-y sense, but otherwise a man’s rectum can take (and does) another man’s genitals in it.

      And if biology and science are simple? Why did lord almighty God/Zeus/Mary whoever put male G-Spot located in a man’s rectum and make it feel so god damn good? or make people gay? or you?

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 31 Mar 2013, 10:12pm

        Heterosexual males also insert their genitals in the rectums of females, not that uncommon.

        1. “make it feel so god damn good? or make people gay? or you?”

          The same line of argument is used by child abusers and those who commit incest. Face it your behaviour/lifestyle is perverse to the max. For goodness sake man stop justifying your depravity and get some help & see a shrink or something

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 31 Mar 2013, 10:11pm

      In case you haven’t learned, heterosexuals do that too. Rent yourself some porn, wanker. Oral sex is also considered deviant by the roman cult and scripture, but very commonly practiced by married heterosexuals around the world, many of them catholics.

      1. Yawn, here we go again, bang the same ol drum and use the same ol red herring “heterosexuals do that too”. I don’t care what pathetic excuses you come up with, the homosexual behaviour is perverted and unnatural and deep down if your honest with yourself you know that too.

    3. Dave North 1 Apr 2013, 9:34am

      “A man’s rectum is meant for excreting human excrement”

      It seems that your mouth has taken over the task.

      1. Deus caritas est 1 Apr 2013, 11:15am

        Ace! Haha

    4. Guglielmo Marinaro 1 Apr 2013, 9:44am

      Well, Dennis, this is obviously common sense. A man’s penis is meant for passing human urine, not for violently forcing into a woman’s vagina. It really is simple biology and science. Stop making ‘sex’ into a ‘god’ and enjoy friendship with a woman, instead of degrading yourself.

      1. Guglielmo you obviously missed out on a few important biology lessons when you were younger…

        Gentle, Robert and Dave et al – is that the best responses you can come up with? Even rapists and child abusers come up with better arguments to justify their perversions – truly sad.

        1. Dave North 1 Apr 2013, 12:50pm

          ” – truly sad.”

          Obsessing on Obsesssing on eother peoples sexual habits.
          other peoples sexual habits is sad.

          What business is it of yours where consenting adults stick their bits.

          NONE.

          1. That’s a lovely red herring Dave. It still doesnt stop your behaviour being perverse and absolutely disgustingly evil. I hold your behaviour in contempt in the same way that I hold consensual incest between two adults, its filthy and rights such as ‘marriage’ and the bringing up of children should not be given to perverts like yourself. For goodness sake Dave learn some commonsense man on what a bumhole is for.

    5. Jock S. Trap 2 Apr 2013, 11:48am

      Clearly someone other idiot who knows nothing just assume and spreads hatred.

      Oh yeah, and where do ya think the male G-Spot is nutjob?

      1. Jock despising your perversion as I do child abuse and consensual incest, does not make me a hater it makes me normal, your a nutjob if you cant grasp basic biology on what a bumhole is for.

        1. Joseph oz 3 Apr 2013, 2:48am

          “it makes me normal”

          Well, Dennis… please define, “normal”?

        2. Jock S. Trap 3 Apr 2013, 12:17pm

          Oh Dennis, you are anything but normal…. You clear Gay Sex Obsession makes YOU Very abnormal.

          1. Oh Jock is that the best you can do? Your obsession with putting your bits in a place for human excrement is NOT normal. YOUR abnormal sex perversion with a place meant for human excrement makes YOU very abnormal…

  11. Timothy Dolan is almost certainly a closeted homosexual man. She is past her prime and bitter about it!

    1. Hopefully, his stupid remarks will eventually pissed off a few priests.

  12. Carl Rowlands 31 Mar 2013, 9:49pm

    Dear, dear me, and people put their faith in him! Beyond words. The worrying aspect to this is that he actually believes it!!

  13. How about a compromise, let’s all be friends with benefits ;)

    1. You mean no marriage!!!!! sacrilege darling, how ever will society carry on without the moral compass of these wonderful hypocritical bigots. Don’t know anyone who goes to church any more, they are a dying bread thrashing about, please someone put them out of their misery.

  14. Captain Proton 31 Mar 2013, 10:01pm

    Archbishops should be seen and not heard

    1. Good advise, they do have the mental age of a small child.

  15. Robert in S. Kensington 31 Mar 2013, 10:08pm

    “We gotta be – we gotta do better to see that our defense of marriage is not reduced to an attack on gay people. And I admit, we haven’t been too good at that.”

    He needs to take a remedial course in decent English. What a smug, nasty [pompous, condescending bastard. All of the hateful mendacious rhetoric coming from him and his cult have done nothing but attack gay people. Frigging hypocrite and bigot that he is. I wouldn’t mind betting there’s some dirt on him too.

  16. Total jackass. I can’t imagine any self respecting gay or lesbian or Trans person attending and supporting the Catholic Church.

    1. however there are plenty of them whose self respect has been destroyed and they sycophantically support people who would rather see them burn in hell.

      I feel sorry for anyone who is gay and ‘has faith’, they really psychological need help.

  17. This would be really offensive if it wasn’t so funny. Entitled???? Since when has consentual sex had anything to do with entitlement? Amazing that this boor thinks he’s ‘entitled’ to make statements like this. These creeps are so deluded about their status.

  18. And by gays, he means Catholic priests.

  19. Tom (Wpg) 1 Apr 2013, 2:11am

    How is it possible for society, LGBT in particular, to convince these religious fools that their views are no longer valid, and that they can do more good for society by just shutting their compulsive mouths? It’s really appalling that they continue to try to control what people do. It’s none of their business.

    1. Har Davids 1 Apr 2013, 8:09am

      You can’t convince nutters of their idiocy, Tom. Their numbers are dwindling, even though their voices are getting shriller. They are a minority now, and they know it, and they undermine their own cause every time one of them opens his mouth.

  20. PeterinSydney 1 Apr 2013, 3:42am

    With all his big waist I bet Dolan has not had the fun of even seeing his little dick for many years. Is this another case of Penis envy?

    1. Joseph oz 1 Apr 2013, 6:19am

      Yes… but if he looks in the mirror… he’ll see a bigger dick, himself!

      1. PeterinSydney 1 Apr 2013, 10:54am

        So Joe! The little dick wags the old dog again!

  21. This is what the choirboy hears as the priest jams it up his ass or down his throat. I`m just being overly friendly .

  22. Har Davids 1 Apr 2013, 8:06am

    Where does the bible tell us that “God has told that the way to happiness, is intended only for a man and woman in marriage, where children can come about naturally.”?

    These religious folk are really making it up on the go while ignoring a lot of BS in their book, don’t they?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Apr 2013, 1:01pm

      Indeed. He mentions nothing about heterosexual married couples where children cannot come about naturally because of infertility and those who choose not to procreate. He mentions nothing about surrogacy or invitro fertlisation. The roman cult could annul a marriage if two consenting parties decided not to procreate simply because they didn’t want children and in some cases refuse to marry a couple who made it known to the priest. It’s all hypocrisy. They do indeed make things up as they go along. The bible of course mentions nothing about mandating procreation within marriage either. Another controlling cult invention.

  23. Deus caritas est 1 Apr 2013, 8:20am

    I suggest that people read His Eminence Timothy Cardinal Dolan’s full homily before decrying. His words were beautiful and hopeful.

    This is yet another example of Pink News’ propaganda!

    1. Dave North 1 Apr 2013, 9:33am

      Oh do please take your catholic shite and f off.

      1. Deus caritas est 1 Apr 2013, 10:11am

        When you learn to comprehend a full text I’ll consider then going away! Until then I’ll be the voice of reason.

        In Christo et Ecclesiae

        1. Haha. ‘Deus caritas est’ cannot even get his Latin grammar right!

          1. Deus caritas est 1 Apr 2013, 11:17am

            It’s correct, dear.

      2. Deus caritas est 1 Apr 2013, 10:15am

        David you do realise I’m gay as well as Catholic? I’m on the side of homosexuals but I also adore my Church. I have only ever felt joy and acceptance at Mass and Church. There are some within the Church that beggars belief but the overall message is really what I defend.

        Perhaps this won’t make sense to you but it’s how I feel. I hope you can respect that?

        1. Dave North 1 Apr 2013, 12:47pm

          Newsflash.

          Your unctuous cult HATES you.

          Grow a set…..

          1. Deus caritas est 1 Apr 2013, 1:19pm

            Holy Mother Church does not hate.

        2. Good for you Deus caritas est. Keep the love of Christ through His Church in your heart and never let the bigots get you down. We shouldn’t define ourselves by our sexuality, but by the dignity of whom God made us to be as male and female.

          http://www.lovingit.co.uk/2011/03/encourage-real-support-for-homosexual-catholics.html

          1. Deus caritas est 1 Apr 2013, 1:05pm

            I love my faith and myself. In God I trust and His Holy Apostolic Church

        3. I feel really sorry for you, this psychological dependency on a bunch of iron age myths and legends just makes you look infantile and destructive. Get help, you need to stop this self harming behaviour.

          1. I feel really sorry for you, this psychological dependency on putting a penis in another man excrement hole is a bunch of iron age myths and legends just makes you look infantile and destructive. Get help, you need to stop this self harming behaviour. Also read a proper biology book on what a bum hole is meant for – didn’t you study bio at school?

          2. Jock S. Trap 3 Apr 2013, 12:20pm

            Why are you so obsessed with sex Troy, Keith or whichever person you are today?

            Seriously, can’t you not think about anything else but what people do for sex?

            Says more about you don’t ya think!?

  24. Hmmm. So God intended gay couples to be friends only and not to have sex. But to make it especially difficult he gave them strong sexual feelings towards their own sex and no sexual feelings towards the opposite sex. Of course if he had wanted to make it easier for them he could have made them asexual – but he didn’t. It might make you think he hates us and has set us up to fail, despite this priest’s assertion he loves us – or maybe, just maybe the archbishop and his church are COMPLETELY wrong – but of course to come to that conclusion you’d have to think for yourself – the Catholic Church has never really encouraged that!

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Apr 2013, 1:05pm

      He once implied that if equal marriage were introduced in New York State where he resides, it could result in someone wanting to marry their own mother. Oedipus complex perhaps? The hierarchy’s obsession with incest and polygamy are quite revealing and if you notice, most of it comes from the catholic hierarchy more than any other.

  25. I was unaware that what I did behind closed doors was anyone’s business but my own.

  26. The stench of the closet here is overpowering.

  27. Dolan plz

  28. The sheer unadulterated arrogance is staggerring beyond belief

  29. Rest of World: Catholic bishops are only ‘entitled to be seen’, not heard.

  30. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Apr 2013, 3:16pm

    So, in this moron’s twisted reasoning, if we can only be non-sexual friends then we’re not gay until we do the nasty? He needs certifiying.

  31. Garry Cassell 1 Apr 2013, 3:42pm

    I just don’t understand how a dickhead like Dolan can make such statements and as he well knows that so many of the priest, bishops of the church are daily involved with molesting boys all over the world…The church have paid billions covering up for these so called priest(scum) and it’s still going on…Do Dolan and all the other scumbags think the rest of the world is somehow blind to their actions?? What nerve to give advice to anyone!!!

  32. An unbelievable and ridiculous thing to say for any member of any church – but here again, we’re looking at the Roman Catholic church who seem to be blinkered when it comes to matters such as this.
    Will someone please take him out for the night?

  33. Amber Dust 1 Apr 2013, 4:24pm

    You know, I’m still enjoying images of Princess Di in drag with Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett to bother heating up over this archbishop trollop.

    I’m starting to yawn. I mean, really, we could report on every homophobe until the end of time. Or, we could just ignore these human turds and get on with life.

    Let’s face it, they’ve lost the argument. Who cares what they have to say anymore?

  34. I am happy to be both gay and a practicing CATHOLIC…Cannot see what all the fuss is about…its between me and god….if i’ve got it wrong he shouldn’t have made me this way….

      1. What a sad website you sent me..i don’t need yet another man made
        load of bullshit…God made me who i am and he alone will decide if im right or wrong….

  35. And what about his pal, Archbishop O’Brien, was he entitled only to friendship with the youths he had abused or has he some special right that other gays don’t have because he is a priest and an Archbishop?

  36. He’s just mad he’s not getting any.

  37. Jock S. Trap 2 Apr 2013, 11:46am

    Thanks but religion is the last place I’d take permission from… what a nutjob!

  38. I’d like to see you try and police that mate. I bet you and your cronies would be there with your little cameras secretly recording it all so you can go and pleasure yourselves in the crypt after the sermon.

  39. ..he should be thrown out of his job! There are so many people within the church (especially) who are prepared to ignore nature, and speak out and say preposterous things. These people do have a habit of spouting the same idiotic rhetoric.

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