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US conservative women’s group: Starbucks discriminates against straight people by supporting gay rights

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  1. Dimwitted quislings.

    And no, since they have precisely no skin in the game whatsoever – with nothing either gained or lost by the provision of equal rights – it does nothing of the sort.

    But I don’t expect reason, logic or rational discourse from those idiotic simpletons.

  2. Where do these groups spring up from?

    The CEO of Starbucks has not stated that he is anti-straight marriage, just that they are behind the campaign for same sex marriage. This does not make him discriminatory.

    But then again, I would not expect some brainwashed bimbo to understand that kind of logic!

    1. Oh she understands OK. She is a strategist and their strategy, having lost the argument is to lie instead.

      The CEO did not state that at all. He was asked a direct question by a shareholder who queried the companies stance and suggested being pro gay was damaging the profits. He said the profits were 38%(I think) and that if that wasn’t good enough anyone who disagreed was free to sell the shares and invest elsewhere.

      How this becomes, not employing straight people? You lie of course, because what other sensible argument do you have?

    2. GulliverUK 26 Mar 2013, 5:24pm

      They are part of the original right-wing religious Evangelical fundamentalist (that exists both within the Catholic and other churches).

      The report here;
      http://www.politicalresearch.org/resources/reports/full-reports/redefining-religious-liberty/
      — very long — gives details of how this movement got started. There was Evangelical missionary movements before, but nothing like the political action of the religious right which re-formed again in the 1970s.

      pdf is the first link down, where it says “by Dr. Jay Michaelson”

      We do know where we’d like them to all f— off to :)

    3. Glen Hague 26 Mar 2013, 7:43pm

      They’re not bimbos – they are actually trying to be very clever. They know intolerance “doesn’t sell” . So they are trying to turn the argument round and make it look as if their opponents are being intolerant by backing same sex marriage. It’s the same tactics the fundamentalists are using – i.e. you are being intolerant of me by not letting me discriminate against gay people etc.

  3. With these groups if you are not with them, you are against them.

    If you do not explicitly say you are against homosexuality and equal marriage, then you are going against traditional marriage.

  4. She will buy her coffee elsewhere and I may just feel less awful (after Starbucks’ tax evasion) of buying my coffee there.

    1. Good, we won’t have to sit next to her.

      1. Sit ? I didn’t know animals like her sat. Or that the Bible allows women to sit together with other people.

      2. I want to buy an extra, extra large latte… and pour it all over her!!!

  5. Jesus moran 26 Mar 2013, 3:22pm

    Stupid girl , go back to Kansas!!!!!

    1. The Bayou LOL

  6. Brett Gibson 26 Mar 2013, 3:22pm

    Have these people ever heard of a dictionary? They seem to have their own version of the word ‘discrimination’. I love it though, they sound crazier and crazier everyday making us look saner and saner.

    1. I totally agree…..saner and saner every time they open their gob! I just dropped by the blog and noticed that all comments are closed….free speech indeed!!

  7. Robert in S. Kensington 26 Mar 2013, 3:30pm

    Starbucks isn’t discriminating against anyone. Its employees and shareholders are mostly heterosexual and that isn’t going to change. People are free to do as they wish, either they buy or don’t buy or invest in Starbruck’s products in a free market economy. Telling bigots to shop somewhere else is if they don’t like equal marriage is perfectly legal. Yet, this harridan thinks that a company should discriminate against one group because it happens to be a minority whose equal civil marriage rights are now being addressed and supported by a major corporation?

    Amazing isn’t it that a religious nutter based organisation can dictate to a company that it should discriminate against gay people, yet if it refuses, they suddenly become the victims of reverse discrimination? I’m sick and tired of these christian freaks playing the victim card. About time the tables were turned on them for a change.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 26 Mar 2013, 4:02pm

      Revealing that I get thumbed down for defending Starbuck’s decision.

    2. In Australia, when I found out that my local Gloria Jeans Coffee franchise stood by the anti-gay Hillsong Church (fundamentalist evangelicals) and were backing anti-gay marriage lobbies in the national capital and funding anti-gay federal candidates from the Labor Party and sponsoring the anti-gay marriage Prime Minister’s events as well as tithing profits to aversion therapy centres to ‘convert’ lesbian teens…I went in, openly tore up my Loyalty Rewards card they kept for me and explained that I was joining the campaign AGAINST that coffee chain by taking my custom elsewhere…but I pointed out that choice in no way reflects upon the staff that franchise employs, who were unaware (largely) what their boss had bought into and supported through her choice of franchise.

      I haven;t bought my coffee there…or any of their supermarket blends…in over two years now.

      I made it clear that if the owner considers me unequal they don’t deserve my custom. That;s choice, not discrimination

      1. Thank you Adam for reminding me about, Gloria Jeans… there’s one here in the south coast town in which I live. I’m not fond of Star Bucks coffee nor am I fond of Gloria Jeans coffee. I would much rather support the smaller coffee shops and drink coffee, that doesn’t taste… mass produced!

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 26 Mar 2013, 3:33pm

    I hope Dunkin’ Donuts joins Starbucks in support of equal marriage. Then this silly cow will have to make her own. Dunkin’ Donuts is some of the worst I’ve ever had when I was in America. It’s nothing like Starbucks and never will be.

    1. GulliverUK 26 Mar 2013, 5:32pm

      It’s like when Google and Microsoft supported equal marriage – these groups didn’t know what to do, as they use both products, to communicate with their members, and there was a lot written about just how on earth they would boycott those two. Are they now all running Linux distros and using OpenOffice? Hardly likely, and I’d very much expect most of the distros and OpenOffice to also support equal marriage. They were the ones who originally tried to threaten companies and use them as baseball bats against us, but it’s backfired spectacularly.

      1. EqualityFinesse 26 Mar 2013, 8:39pm

        They can switch to who they like GulliverUK but if they use the internet they’re still not avoiding equal marriage companies like Cisco who switch most worldwide internet traffic.

        …The thought of their pathetic ramblings being processed by a pro LBGT company…

        The Irony!

        1. Oh yeah, Cisco, can’t avoid that unless you build your own Internet !!! Well spotted :)

  9. Is this silly little girl really the representative of some organisation we have never heard of or is she just a self publicising bimbo? Either way Starbucks are not anti anything, apart from discrimination and paying taxes :D

    1. Helen in Ireland 29 Mar 2013, 11:43pm

      They are generally known as the Concernstipated Women of Amerika, sisters to One Million (actually 47,000) Moms, who constantly witter on about OMG discussion the ghey seks on Glee…

  10. Jock S. Trap 26 Mar 2013, 3:50pm

    Blimey just when you thought verbal diarrhoea from the people could get any worse, along comes Chelsen Vicari.

    Clearly not very bright and extremely narrow in mind.

    So sad that these people have nothing better to do than deny equality and human rights to people whilst trying hard to make themselves superior because of a chosen religious lifestyle.

  11. Dave North 26 Mar 2013, 4:03pm

    Are you discriminated against?

    As a woman, perhaps.

    As a straight middle class white airhead.

    You never have.

    1. Dave North 26 Mar 2013, 4:05pm

      PS:

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      and rendering the site unreadable.

      1. Darren Yehuda Theoret 26 Mar 2013, 5:21pm

        I agree with Dave; those ads are getting on my last nerve

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          1. Thanks so much for that, I’d never heard of it before!

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  12. Perhaps someone should dunk her doughnuts, preferably by means of using something particularly unpleasant.

  13. Sam Barnett-Cormack 26 Mar 2013, 4:07pm

    Wow, that blog post is full of so many (presumably wilful) misunderstandings, I don’t know where to start.

    1. They’re not misunderstandings — they’re misrepresentations. I’m not even sure they’re deliberate, since Concerned Women for America is one of those groups that exists within its own, hermetically sealed reality — no ideas that question God’s Truth (TM) allowed.

  14. Another day andother nasty piece of work. You have just handed Starbucks more customers with your rant.

  15. It is abundantly clear that this person hold no degree, or any form of higher education, and wouldn’t know Kohlberg’s Theory of Moral Develpment if a tome explaining it smacked her in that cavernously empty head of hers!

  16. How about she and her kind opt for a loving relationship with someone – anyone and mind their own business

  17. Um, being tolerant leads to intolerance?
    (Scratches head)…
    I agree.. I mean supporting gender equality lead to men being oppressed, didn’t it? Hey, this is fun! Making assertions without actual evidence to support my absurd claims.
    And now, I’m going to pull a hat out of a rabbit. In my and Chelsen Vicari’s world, logic doesn’t apply to reality.

    1. Mike, there are people who believe that supporting women’s rights oppresses men.

  18. A few years ago, Mr Schultz’s comments would have been widely reported as a major gaffe (“CEO tells conservative America: We don’t want your business” etc).

    Instead, his comments got little attention in the mainstream media, and where they were discussed, it was usually in the context of how pro-equality views are becoming the norm (e.g. http://wapo.st/11DhUIn ).

    Of course the CWA and others on the far right are trying to get Mr Schultz’s remarks back into the news. The real news is that they have to try so hard.

    Among the young people beloved of advertisers this battle is utterly over. Brands with a deliberately blue-collar or heartland image will court conservatives for a few more years. But everyone else?

    If the CWA want to boycott every pro-equality US company, they’ll soon be left with nowhere to shop.

    1. And if there’s no where else to shop, then hopefully… these people will soon starve to death!
      But unfortunately, there are probably plenty of conservative, right wing coffee shops and stores out there…?
      Would you like a bible verse with that… or how about a slice of, mein kampf?

  19. GulliverUK 26 Mar 2013, 5:13pm

    “Concerned Women for America” = barking very right-wing religious batsh1t crazy nutters. Part of the fundamentalist Evangelical uprising in 1970s, born of the Roe vs Wade ruling, they’ve extended their remit to pornography, equal rights for LGBT, and even oppose the HPV vaccine, which can protect against cervical cancer. They are very well funded, but that fringe sub-culture of Evangelical Christianity is slowly dying, like so much of right-wing religious fanaticism. They’re like Westboro Baptist Church – only more focused on dominionism by political action.

  20. there are twice as many conservatives as liberals? How did Obama win 2 elections then?

    1. Anthony D 3 Apr 2013, 4:33am

      Lol that was my first thought too.

  21. It’s a shame an attractive looking young woman like Chelsen Vicari is so severely disabled by brain-rot.
    It’s tragic really.

    1. You think she’s attractive? I think that fake smile is a real turn-off, and she looks a little mean around the eyes.

      1. I was trying to be generous Hunter.

      2. Lief Kinhelm 31 Mar 2013, 7:36pm

        If you don’t think she is good-looking, you’re either blind or bent.

    2. My exact thought. She reminds me a little of Selena Gomez, who is a total hottie.

  22. What do you want to bet these bimbos were once married to men who came out of the closet?

  23. Ofcourse not , he is only saying you have a choice . you can sell or keep your shares , you can buy our product or not the choice is yours.We have a policy at work and the same applies when we do business. This fossil from this homophobic group is as dense as a fossil. Nothing to be gained by entertaining any of her thoughts.On any subject.

  24. More Orwellian doublespeak. Stupid bigoted Woman.

  25. I hope you find a nice bigoted place to get your caffeine from, dear.

  26. Robert White 26 Mar 2013, 7:31pm

    Just goes to _prove_ that entitled white people in the united states have not the first clue about what it means to suffer discrimination.

    (Note that I’m so white it’s my last name. I’m also from the U.S. The racial dictum is, in this country, very much a feature of a particular kind of mind-set, so it was worth including.)

  27. Erm… Who’s the little girl again…??

  28. If the women’s rights are upheld in America, the U.S, discriminates Saudi-Arabiens and Talibans. I request to immediately drop women’s rights, as they are disriminatory and against nature and against the bible.
    Take that bitches! How on earth can they be this stupid? How do they not get this?

  29. Look on the bright side: maybe the donuts will fill the space between her ears.

  30. And the award for idiot of the year award goes to…

    1. Peter, the year is still young. We haven’t see the worst I’m afraid so keep the award for later in the year. :)

  31. Of course, and Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks and other such people discrimanated against racist white people by supporting the end of slavery and the rights and equality for African-American people.

    I hope they keep sending bigots like that. That means our war is already won.

    1. Totally Felipe! well said.

  32. Staircase2 27 Mar 2013, 1:42am

    …the bloody idiots…

  33. Wow, homophobic -and- racist. What a charming woman.

  34. I’d possibly have written a well thought out rebuttal to this nonsense here, possibly touching on this poor deluded woman’s inability to distinguish between shareholders and customers, but I really think the only proper response here is a flat “lolwut”.

  35. No link to the original article?

  36. The downside of the industrialised world’s wealth is that silly little women like this specimen have nothing better to do with their time that write this sort of drivel (striving for joined-up thinking clearly requires too onerous an effort).

    Dunkin’ Donuts sounds just her sort of thing. In fact, it seems she’s nourished herself there to excess already.

  37. Wow, if stupidity would hurt, Chelsen Vicari would scream day and night.
    Appalling what hate and bigotry does to people.

  38. Oh My God. That stupid female needs a good therapist. She blame on other her own disrespect and intolerant behavior. Does Starbuck CEO said that he doesn’t want heterosexual customer or shareholder? I don’t think so. He doesn’t want bigot and homophobes in his business that’s it. She is very mixed up this woman with her gay hatred belives and speech. As some has already point, Starbucks CEO has not stated that he is anti-straight marriage or people, but he is for equal rights for everyone; gays, straight and probably transgenders. And if this media strategist who’s probably looking for a good job with such a statement is not happy with that, then yes, go for your coffee somewhere else you bitch.

  39. … and wouldn’t they have said exactly the same thing about equal race rights? These smug, middle-class republican religious groups have lost the plot … and the game. That’s why they’re becoming ever more vitriolic. I hope, when marriage equality is achieved, people remeber what these vile organisation have said.

    1. johnny33308 2 Apr 2013, 4:32am

      We will, I can assure you, and then maybe we will go after many of these groups (and the churches that sponsored them) in the Courts for damages for violating the Civil Rights of LGBT people! That is how Civil Rights were won for black people and then made a corner-stone of our Human Rights laws here in the US…they will be extinguished financially just like the national KKK was, here in the 90s….a suitable punishment for their antisocial evil agenda…what a happy day it will be!.

  40. johnny33308 2 Apr 2013, 4:19am

    Only in the dark and quite limited mind of a religious fantic, a fundamentalist, a conservative, could totally EQUAL enforcement of the laws of the land for every person ever be considered as “discrimination”! They certainly understand nothing, least of all the meanings of common English words…they seem/are more stupid than a bag of rocks. Apparently becoming ‘religious’ is damaging to one’s brain, since so many of these sorts appear to have badly damaged brains…obviously, since they do not have coherent thought processes…or perhaps religion attracts the brain-dead…unsure which it is, or maybe it is both. Tragically idoitic, the lot of them. Pathetic!

  41. RoughRugger 2 Apr 2013, 4:23pm

    “…there are twice as many conservatives as there are liberals…”

    Um…where did you get that particular nugget of fecal matter, Karl Rove’s election results??

  42. This is not logical. That is the same as saying by supporting blacks and asians they are discriminating against whites. Or ending slavery meant slave owners could enjoy freedom less. This is just asinine.

    1. Jess Kirby 3 Apr 2013, 4:33pm

      Given what she has written, she probably does think ending slavery was a bad move

  43. No longer having total control over the way the world works is not “Discrimination.” Shut up and accept that we live in the 21st damned Century already.

  44. It isnt a zero sum game. If shes worried about rights, she should be worried about states that are trying to ban or limit access to birth control with their personhood admendants (bans iud and the pill) and religous exemptions to covering birth control. That scares me!

    1. She obviously didn’t realize that a video of the complete exchange with the shareholder was all over the Internet. Her amateur attempt to twist it is bluntly transparent. She embarrasses herself and the conservatives she represents.

  45. She can’t do the maths. LGBTIQ people and their friends and extended families buy far more coffees than narrow-minded bigots do.

  46. So, the blady without the MBA is giving as lesson in profit and loss to the CEO of one of the biggest multinational corporations in thw world? I’m sorry but surely any sane person would realise that Starbucks have probably done their maths already and figured out that this is going to gain them profits, not lose them, because why would they make such a stand if they had so much to lose? But no, dear, I guess you must know better, you total buffoon.

  47. .....Paddyswurds 5 Apr 2013, 12:10am

    This ignorant bint would rather Starbucks discriminated against GLBs instead so that’s all right then. Does she not know that the buybul says you should not partake of stimulants of any kind… but then like all xtians she has probably never read her buybul….

  48. not a problem Chelsen (is that even a name?) – just “black ” yourself up ;then get in a time machine and send yourself back to any of the “suthrun states” in the 50’s -come out as a coloured lesbian -see how equal you feel then

  49. Colin (London) 23 Apr 2013, 3:52am

    At a time when womans rights are just as important as gay rights these women surely have missed the boat.

    Inclusive society girls remember that. Oh yes sadly even you lot.

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