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Death of trans teacher Lucy Meadows prompts calls for Daily Mail to sack Richard Littlejohn

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  1. Liam the God 22 Mar 2013, 3:47pm

    I don’t want him to quit: I want him and every other Staff Writer at the Ma!l to be put onto a giant bacon slicer, set to slice very thin, and chop them up feet first!!

    All the Best, Pinhead.

  2. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Mar 2013, 3:55pm

    The Daily Mail, who would have thought? Vile, disgusting bigot. That rag of yellow tabloid sensationalism should be shut down along with the Telegraph. It’s not even journalism.

    1. ColinJones 22 Mar 2013, 5:40pm

      Don’t forget The Sun, I’m still hoping to see the day when it follows the News Of The World into the dustbin of history.

    2. We need to persuade Waitrose to stop pushing these two rags,in case anyone did`nt know holders of Waitroses loyalty card are able to get either of those two rags free of charge each day-no other papers are in the offer!

    3. And every other opinion you disagree with, eh?

  3. It’s a shame it will never happen, but I would like to see Littlejohn and every bigot complicit in this woman’s death to serve a prison sentence.

  4. I really just don’t know what to say. I’m so angry at this. Littledick is going to keep on spouting his vile opinion though his shit rag column. I’m so sad at this happening, why are people allowed to do this?

    I believe if this was a cis-female there would have been repercussions but because she was transsexual, it doesn’t matter apparently.

    I just wish all this hatred towards us would stop, we’re even hated in the LGB community, so what chance do we have in “normal” society?

    1. “why are people allowed to do this”

      Ask his readers. He is supplying a product that is demanded by his readers. As long as people buy the shit they will keep excreting it.

  5. Ian Harries 22 Mar 2013, 4:00pm

    Littlejohn is a known bigot and homophobe. Hateful man, in the true sense of “filled with hatred” … doubt that he has shame or regret for anything he wrote or said, even with this sad death to which he of course contributed …

  6. Staircase2 22 Mar 2013, 4:00pm

    This is so heartbreaking.

    Richard Littlejohn has been whipping up a frenzy of public scapegoating of the poor and vulnerable for as long as I can remember.

    The man’s a bigot and a bully, using his notoriety and platform to belittle others and set the mob on them.

    I suspect he himself has enormous baggage given the sheer venom and ferocity of his bitter and twisted message.

    He really is a despicable little toady of a man

  7. This man (Littlejohn – perhaps that’s why he has ‘issues’) has ALWAYS been a disgusting homophobic moron. The Daily Mail’s readership is old, middle-class and Tory. What more do you expect from an organ that has always pandered to rascists and bigots? The answer is simple. Don’t buy this rag and encourage all right-minded people to do the same. Whenever I see someone reading it, I say in the loudest possible voice, “Ewww. Another racist homophobe”. Mid you, I know DOZENS of gay men of a certain age who ALSO read it. Self-haters ….

  8. Ruth Mills 22 Mar 2013, 4:16pm

    As someone in the process of transitioning from male to female myself, I know how important it is to be able to continue one’s career post-transition; in my case, I work in IT, and I’ve been lucky in that there have been practically no issues career-wise with my decision to transition.

    It’s such a cruel irony in Lucy’s case that while the school themselves were very supportive of Lucy’s transition, there were a small minority of parents who were far less accommodating, some of whom may well have been responsible for inciting Richard Littlejohn to write that dreadful transphobic article.

    Some children will suffer from gender dysphoria at an early age, where they will feel “trapped in the wrong body”; surely it is beneficial for such children to have a positive role-model (such as a teacher) that they can look up to? Lucy Meadows should have had the chance to be one such person, but ended up having her life cruelly cut short by people’s bigotry and lack of understanding.

    1. Such a well thought out comment on a very sad situation. I couldn’t agree more with you Ruth.

  9. I know someone who has a kid at the school. The kid, as the Daily Mail suggests, asked what was going on… but that’s where the similarities stopped. The conversation went something like this:
    “Mummy, why is Mr Upton coming turning into a lady?”
    “Some people feel they are lady born into a man’s body. Mr Upton is only changing to what he, or rather she, feels she truly is.”
    “Oh right. I’m glad he’s happy.”

    Rather similar to the story of the woman telling the oh-so-difficult story about a gay uncle to her child, in that the child simply does not care. It is the adults who are confused, insecure and close-minded, not the kids.

    1. That should have read “coming back turned into a lady”

    2. Also “they are a lady born”.
      I apologise for forcing such bad grammar upon you!

    3. These hateful people really are insulting the children by attributing their own insecurities and shortcomings onto the younger generations.
      The children will be as confused by this as they are when they have a teacher speaking in a foreign accent, which I assume some daily-maillers would secretly like to ban as well.

    4. Exactly. These right wing types get all up in arms about how this sort of thing is going to terribly confuse and possibly traumatise little kids, when in fact the average reaction of a little kid to learning about gender issues (or sexual orientation issues, which right wing types whip up much the same hysteria about) is “Oh, right. Can I have a biscuit?”.

  10. It wouldn’t surprise me if he is congratulating himself on a “job well done”.
    Not only should he be kicked out, but the daily fail needs to run a headline story saying exactly why.

  11. Children are used to teachers’ names changing. Children don’t care. Children are in no danger from teachers like Miss Meadows. Children are in danger from people like Mr Littlejohn.

  12. This was horrendous to read…

    She was in no way taking her pupil’s innocence or childhood, she was merely taking the steps she felt were right to become who she really was… and NO ONE should ever have to suffer ridicule for being the person they are and were born to be.

    I am in no way surprised that it was LittleJohn and the Daily Mail that wrote an article with such venom as the Daily Mail is a publication fit only for BNP Voting, Marxist, White Nazi bigots who still believe in the superiority of the white man (The white man with wife, 2 children, a dog and no black friends)

    Her death is yet another in the long list of tragedies upon the minority of people who try to be what they are inside… Shame that it takes a death for the rest of the world to sit up and take notice.

    Steve

    1. Liam the God 22 Mar 2013, 4:59pm

      I think you need to look up “Marxist”: Marxism about as far away from the BNP as you can get, and the NSDAP were its sworn ideological enemy. Other than that…..

  13. Well said,Littlejohn.It’s called free speech.Nobody can have an opinion these days unless it is in absolute adoration of everything queer,weird & wonderful & woe betide anyone who does.At the very least you’re a bigot,at the worst death threats are issued.

    1. And you are here because?…

    2. DCBrighton 22 Mar 2013, 5:24pm

      Free speech or not, words can have consequences. In this case a woman is dead.
      You are a really vile creature, not a word of sympathy for the nightmare this woman’s friends and family are going through right now. Just back patting the man who drove her to despair.

    3. Liam the God 22 Mar 2013, 5:27pm

      DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

  14. Lord Haw Haw 22 Mar 2013, 5:12pm

    Well Well

  15. Lord Haw Haw 22 Mar 2013, 5:13pm

    Ray does have a point you know !

    1. Jock S. Trap 23 Mar 2013, 9:51am

      I think it says it all when people have to change their own username to respond to themselves. Then go on the defensive when their clear mental problems are showing through.

      So sad!

    2. EqualityFinesse 24 Mar 2013, 8:33am

      Yeah, the point being:

      Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!

  16. I would urge everyone to sign the petition. I doubt that he will be sacked but a clear message needs to be put to the mail that the majority have no place for the vile and vicious tripe this small minded man is allowed to peddle.

    1. thejesugon 22 Mar 2013, 5:38pm

      Can I post the link to the petition

    2. I, too, would like to sign. Does anyone know where/how?

      1. the answer is above! @sasha

  17. People get arrested for posting less offensive things on twitter and facebook – and yet a journalist and a paper gets away with printing disgusting hate speech in national newspapers. Disgusting.

    If I had money to spare, I would stage a mass protest – buy every copy of the daily mail for a week and burn them all.

  18. Whilst you make a valid point about free speach, there is a difference between making your feelings on a subject known and singling someone out for making a very brave life choice. Meadows did not court the media, she was held up as an example to Mr Littlejohn’s fans (how are you both by the way?) as an example of why a particular group of people is morally wrong.
    He is entitled to an opinion, fine, but it’s an extreme one and there needs to be an element of sensitivity applied when you are expressing strong (and inthe opinion of many people, highly offensive) views on a subject of which you have very little knowledge.

  19. John M. Joyce 22 Mar 2013, 5:48pm

    She killed herself and nobody, actually, knows what her reasons were.
    My heart goes out to her and I hope she finds peace in whatever heaven she believed in.
    It is highly regrettable that there are always casuaties in the never-ending battle for free speech in this country – a battle that has yet to be won, I hasten to add, but I will not jump to the conclusion that something published in the aily Mail was behind this woman’s decision to take her own life.
    By the way, it is not a school’s duty to protect children from real life it is a school’s duty to equip them for the realities of this world. Children are far more resilient and philosophical than most adults credit.

    1. Aapologies, I’m commenting using my phone and pressed report by mistake. Great post. People don’t give children the credit they deserve when dealing with ‘complicated’ adult issues. Shielding them from such issues is exactly how prejudices arise. At a young age they are simply not so judgmental.

  20. free speech or freedom to persecute? if there is nothing to hide, then why has the daily mail newspaper taken the page down? the thing about littletool is that he doesn’t know when to rein it in…

    and gay mafia?! oh for gawd’s knees, have you ever had an original thought in all yer chuff “ray”?! maybe it’d break your tacky cruciform-JEWellery and ostracise you from the rest of the sheep, eh?!

    personally, i’m just loving the free speech… :-P

  21. He is a hafefilled twunt.

    1. I am very sorry that Lucy Meadows is dead, it’s very sad indeed, but I don’t understand why she didn’t change from a he to a she and then move jobs. I am sure this could have been done – it’s bizarre that she wanted to go back to the same primary school as at least some small children were likely to be confused by it.

      I cannot understand her thinking but it seems she was mentally vulnerable and maybe not herself – it is not surprising given such a traumatic change. The real shame is that she was not advised about how to go about all of this more quietly.

      1. Why should she have to change jobs? She did nothing wrong!

        Of course children wouldn’t be confused about it. The only thing that confuses them is when bigoted adults around them encourage them to think that someone undergoing a sex change is wrong or weird.

        It’s bigoted tw**s like Richard Littlejohn who are a menace to the country’s children, not teachers like Lucy Meadows who was just living an honest life.

      2. barriejohn 22 Mar 2013, 6:37pm

        Why on earth should the children be “confused”? It’s just another of those things that they have to learn about as they grow up. I begin to despair!

      3. Staircase2 22 Mar 2013, 6:40pm

        @Roy
        What a load of poppycock – just as Michael says above, “why should she have changed jobs?”

        It really isn’t difficult for kids to grasp actually – only bigoted adults

        1. Actually it would be confusing for some small children, not all of course, but children come first and the prudent thing and sensitive thing would have been to start afresh elsewhere. It is not wrong to have a sex change but it is abnormal and I don’t see that children should be forced to deal with it at 10.

          To generalise and say that it will not be confusing to a 10 year old is blasé in the extreme

          1. Jock S. Trap 23 Mar 2013, 9:56am

            And prove nasty bigoted people like YOU are the problem, are the reason people feel the need to kill themselves.

            You are a disgusting excuse for a human being.

      4. Jock S. Trap 23 Mar 2013, 9:54am

        It’s not children who are confused or have a problem it’s the overly vile bigoted parents, the adults who do.

        It’s shameful. They are the ones, alone with the media that has blood on their/it’s hands.

  22. Ugh, disgusting man. The fact that he views children learning about trans* people as “losing their innocence” is all too telling.

    No, she wasn’t in the wrong job, it’s quite easy to explain this stuff to children. Children aren’t as stupid as Littlejohn seems to think they are.

    It doesn’t have to be explained in a complicated way. All they needed to know was that Miss Meadows was unhappy a man, as has chosen to live a woman. That’s simple enough to anyone to understand… except a Daily Fail columnist apparently.

    RIP Lucy Meadows.

    1. Also, I shouldn’t comment when I’m this angry. Too many typos!

  23. barriejohn 22 Mar 2013, 6:14pm

    He doesn’t actually believe the nonsense that he writes – he’s far too clever for that. Did you realize that he was nominated Columnist of the Year at the forthcoming Press Awards for his “acclaimed twice weekly column” ?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276720/Daily-Mail-nominated-19-Oscars-Press-Awards.html?ns_mchannel=rss

    1. Staircase2 22 Mar 2013, 6:42pm

      …not nearly as clever as he likes to think he is actually…

    2. That just goes to show why the gutter press in this country is called precisely
      that.

  24. What a horrible, loathesome c*** Richard Littlejohn is.

    Our society needs more people with courage and integrity like Lucy Meadows who wanted to carry on doing what she loved – teaching, and less loudmouthed cretins like Littlejohn who wallow in their own ignorance.

    Littlejohn should be hounded 24 hours a day and maybe he’d get a taste of his own medicine.

  25. Littlebigot.

  26. About 20 years ago a Trans friend of mine tried to get a judicial review with regard to regional NHS discriminatory practices. Guess which Newspaper did a two page hatchet job on her?

    Just a thought: Could the Press complaints commission investigate Littlejohn?

      1. Wouldn’t hold out too much hope on the Press Complaints thing given that Richard Darcre – Daily Mail Editor is a leading decision maker.

        The Press Complaints authority are pretty much the newspaper publishers union.

        1. Agreed, they’re pretty useless.

          However, perhaps they’ll try a bit harder after Leveson.

          And of course, if no-one complains then nothing at all will happen.

  27. lostfaithinhumanity 22 Mar 2013, 8:46pm

    So. . . it seems that ‘little john’ is implying he went to a school where he was never exposed to any other group but the white middle class (in his mind how it should be) and he’s trying to argue that this upbringing keeps your innocence, while he grows up spouting hate speech? I don’t see what part of innocent this man still has left in him.

    It really is laughable that he’s in his 50′s and still one of the most discriminatory newspaper writers out there. i agree Robert (Kensington) – these papers should be shut down.

  28. Very sad, and utterly avoidable.

    This brave lady was hounded to her death. She was brave enough to stand up after what must have been a very difficult battle initially in deciding what to do and so on and then make the decision to go ahead.

    The good things first – her school was supportive, which given their name is very encouraging.

    Some, not all of the parents weren’t happy and when running off to the Daily Mail where of course the vile Mr Littlejohn seized the opportunity to turn one person’s bravery into something hateful.

    What’s the legacy of this event?

    1. A tragic and unavoidable death and all the pain for those left behind.

    2. School children who are now left traumatised by the death of their obviously loved and respected teacher and lots of children will loose out from this individuals inspirational life story.

    3. For us, our society far worse off as it shows that from being offensive and hurtful, prejudice and intolerance is capable of killing.

    Rest in peace.

  29. Lucy Meadows was just an ordinary person who did not seek to be in the public limelight. She did not deserve to have media intrusion into her life as she had nothing wrong. As gender reassignment is perfectly legal, why should that be an issue? It’s because she was a teacher, working with children. It is the same kind of attitude that shrieks at the thought of gay men working with children because of a mistaken fear that gay men will molest or corrupt children. Although Lucy Meadows suffered transphobia from Littlejohn, it was very similar to homophobia in its nature. Littlejohn appointed himself as the nation’s judge and jury via his column. The intrusion obviously had a devastating effect on Lucy. I doubt that Littlejohn has any regrets or feels any remorse for his part in her death. The Press has obviously learnt nothing despite the Leveson Inquiry and it gets away with these injustices time and time again. Littlejohn is laughing, but Lucy is dead because of him.

  30. Patrick Bowe 22 Mar 2013, 11:32pm

    The Daily Mail needs to be boycotted by right minded people. I understand the journalist may have felt he was doing his job but the paper should have a policy on such personal matters. It’s a shame what papers do to get a few pence.

    1. Liam the God 22 Mar 2013, 11:52pm

      Littlejohn has a lot of form as far as going after “Soft Targets” is concerned. He’s a bully.

    2. If his job is to shatter the lives of ordinary people who don’t fit into his narrow view of the world, then yes, he was doing his job and much more. As his article in a national newspaper led to Lucy’s death, he excelled in his job – if that was his job is. Though, I think most people with even just a little compassion are aware that unnecessarily intruding into the lives of innocent, ordinary people (who don’t seek or deserve to be in the media spotlight) should not be the job of journalists. The Daily Mail is probably the worst of the newspapers that run this country – I say that because it is obvious from Cameron caving-in to the Press over the Leveson recommendations that they do have their grubby hands firmly gripped on the steering wheel. Boycotting the Daily Mail would be good, but from what I am aware of Daily Mail readers I know, its readers simply don’t care enough or do care but support every bigoted opinion the paper represents. Sadly, it has a dedicated following.

      1. Correction: “As his article in a national newspaper led to Lucy’s death, he excelled in his job – if that was (replace ‘was’ with ‘is what’) his job is.”

  31. Michael Williams 23 Mar 2013, 9:34am

    Parents need protecting from themselves at times. Its far to easy for them you use the press to set-up hate campaigns with no regard to the long term repercussions to society as a whole. They now have to live with the death of a human being on their conscience in the look of their children for the remainder of their lives. That’s going to hurt somewhere and reflect somehow (poor children); When enrolling a child at school a parent should have to sign an agreement stating that they understand the correct channels to take the same way as they do with their employer and if not happy should take their child for schooling elsewhere. It is far to easy for parents to go on what can only described as witch hunts. Free press does not meant free hate press.

  32. I hear a lot of arguments here about free speech.
    The outcome of Richard Littlejohn’s interpretation of it is a classic example why free speech is not nearly as cleancut a philosophical concept as some people make it out to be.
    At one end of the free speech spectrum is facism in which only those in power get a say in what can be said, at the other end is a kind of mob rule as demonstrated by daily mail witchhunts.
    The only sane way to navigate between these poles is to use John Stuart Mill’s harm principle as a caveat to free speech.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_principle
    I would say that Richard Littlejohn’s singling out of a trans teacher simply for being trans and instigating a witchhunt falls foul of the harm principle.

  33. The Mail will NOT sack or even give it any thought -let us not forget Stephen Gateley Mother who hours after his death had to read the most vile journalism from the daily mail and thousands complained then to no avail until the Government actually does something constructive which we know will never happen then these vile people that work under the disguise of journalism will be protected to rant about there hatred and biased opinions and if someone dies they will probably laugh it off and go on to vicitimise

  34. where is this petition?

    I really want to add my name.

  35. ‘It would have been easy for him to disappear quietly at Christmas, have the operation and then return to work as ‘Miss Meadows’ at another school on the other side of town in September’.

    Easy? Yes, because getting another job just like that and doing exactly what you to is a breeze these days…

  36. “The school shouldn’t be allowed to elevate its ‘commitment to diversity and equality’ above its duty of care to its pupils and their parents.”

    What an idiot he is that he can’t see they are the same thing. It’s commitment to equality and diversity was for the benefit of the kids. It’s attitude to the teacher was setting a good example. Something he will never understand.

  37. Honestly, if anyone wants to just go and kill Richard Littlejohn, I will happily help cover up the evidence…

    1. Liam the God 24 Mar 2013, 4:47pm

      Careful: You can get locked up for saying that. Unless you work for the daily mail or are a muslim imam.

  38. What’s harder to explain to a kid? Why their teacher is returning as a woman, or why their teacher decided to kill themselves?

    A great way to destroy innocence by showing how much hate is in the world.

  39. Remember the next could be you . All Lucy wanted to do was be who she already was a woman no more no less . Sack Little willy and dont bye that evil rag ever

  40. Hi am a straight man who believes strongly in the rights of all people regardless of race or sexuality.

    We need this evil bigot out of our media.
    Please take action to destroy this mans career. Contact the following with your feelings…
    suzy.walker@dailymail.co.uk who organises his column. Or leave a message 020 7938 6000 extension number 120

    or his manager info@djarlon.com & his publisher hutchinsonpublicity@randomhouse.co.uk

    Not when your being bullied in front of national spotlight is it Mr Littlejohn…

    1. I just have; many thanks. Let’s give him a taste of his own medicine.

  41. Not sure if this has been mentioned but the article quotes a petition that is much smaller (currently at 30k). This is the main one, currently at almost 160k – please sign this one if you are only going to sign one – http://action.sumofus.org/a/daily-mail-littlejohn-lucy-meadows/

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