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Row between Netherlands and Turkey over lesbian foster couple overshadows prime ministerial visit

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  1. The matter isn’t just that the Turkish people have an issue with the foster parents being a lesbian couple. The culture in Turkey is apparently very different regarding fostering. It’s usually dealt with by relatives, rather than government institutions. There are very few islamic families signing up to be foster parents, so the government institutions have difficulty profiding islamic foster parents for all the kids with islamic backgrounds.

    Part of the problem is that this boy has what they call a double nationality; despite being born and raised in The Netherlands, he also has the Turkish nationality. This is why the Turkish people in Turkey and their PM feel entitled to say something about it.

    1. Then stay in Turkey and don’t go to Holland. If you go to a country you abide by their laws. That is why I will never go to Turkey.

      1. Dude, I’m not saying I condone this kind of shit. I’m just saying that this is a diplomatically difficult issue. Thank you, dicks, for voting my instructional comment down.

        I watched an item on a news programme today, which said everyone should just shut up, and use their brains. The kid wasn’t properly being taken care of by its parents/mum, and irregardless of WHO is taking care of him now, he’s being taken care of WELL.

        1. I really don’t know why, you’ve been voted down?
          You haven’t said anything that isn’t true…
          Nor have you said anything negative against the Lesbian parents!

          1. Just realized, who’s voting you down…

            trolls… stupid trolls…

          2. EXACTLY. It’s as if people don’t actually read things. I am on the foster parents’ side, even. I think Erdogan has nothing to do with the system as it is in The NL, but I am very much aware of all the socio-political difficulties apparently surrounding this case.

    2. Jock S. Trap 22 Mar 2013, 10:14am


      The fact is anybody wishing to live in another country has to follow it’s rules and laws not the rules and laws of the country they left.

      This means this children is in a country that offers fairness and respect. Hate and discrimination from other countries, no matter the circumstances, has no place.

      Turkey has no right in demands against Dutch law or any other countries law. The parents left of their own accord to decide to live and obey another country and it’s laws.

      They can’t bitch about it afterwards.

      1. It isn’t nonsense, it’s the way the Turkish people deal with these things, don’t shoot the messenger. I know things would be easier if they were black and white, rather than all these political shades of grey (I bet there’s more than fifty), but this is how the socio-political reality of this situation currently works.

  2. At last, a Dutch politician who will not mince words and defend liberty without compromise. (A big improvement from 2006, when Ayaan Hirsi Ali was left to the dogs).

    This is a clear attempt to further fan the flames of homophobia within the Turkish communities in the Netherlands, putting the couple and their family at risk. Who the hell does this Erdogan think he is, bullying another country to adhere to ‘Turkish’ values? I hope there was a suitably loud protest against his presence.

    It’s high time we stopped fawning over the Turkish government, whose termites are eating away at the framework of Ataturk’s secular state, replaced by creeping Islamism. Turkey has no place in the EU.

    1. Well said

  3. Did the parents on Turkish television explain to the nation why they were such dangerous parents?

    1. Indeed, I would like to know why the child was taken into care in the first place?

  4. There is no such thing as a muslim child or a christian child either, just muslim parents or christian parents.

    The child’s safety comes before any supernatural mumbo jumbo.

    1. Dave North 21 Mar 2013, 8:33pm

      There is only a child who suffers from the beliefs imposed by their parents,.

  5. Another example of the evil of Islam!

  6. Valerio Italiano 21 Mar 2013, 8:01pm

    I’m obviously glad that the Dutch PM reacted the way he did but if the child has Turkish citizenship this raises issues about what happens if you travel as a UK citizen with children to a country that doesn’t accept LGBT parenting. You would want the UK government to be able to intercede on your behalf should the host country refuse to recognise your parenting rights instead of just saying that you have to accept the laws of the country you’re in. I don’t know a lot about this case but I’m assuming this child is a Dutch citizen too and not just on some temporary visa so the Netherlands has a right to refuse to compromise here since it’s a Dutch citizen on Dutch soil but it’s still an interesting case to watch.

    1. Like I said above, there’s the added issue of dual citizenship in this case. But since he was treated badly by his parents in The Netherlands, he’s subject to the Dutch way of handling these cases (i.e. foster parenting).

  7. There is currently a very high profile campaign in the U.S. by Turkish Airlines to promote travel to Turkey. This sort of publicity (the tip of the iceberg) is why such campaigns become tarnished and doomed to failure. I will NEVER travel to Turkey.

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 21 Mar 2013, 9:06pm

    As I’ve said many times, another reason to ban Turkey from ever applying for membership to the EU. We in the EU have enough religious nutters to last a life time without adding more. It’s bad enough with the looney Christian radical right agitating and fomenting hatred. Enough! Time to send them packing!

  9. Fashion Police 21 Mar 2013, 11:01pm

    Why do all these Muslims have 1977 mustaches?

    1. Easy guess. Chances are, if their culture has a strong preference for machsimo and they don’t culturally associate this mustache style with 1970s porn as many porn-savvy secular Westerners now do, then it is likely still in fashion for them.

  10. Jock S. Trap 22 Mar 2013, 10:17am

    What a disgrace. Turkey’s attitude is disgusting and damaging and yet they have the cheek to accuse other decent minded people of the very thing they do. Typical.

    Turkey has no rights to demands on another country and it’s laws. Just because they want to oppress their own doesn’t mean decent, moral countries have to follow suit!

  11. I applaud the Dutch PM for politely telling his Turkish counterpart to mind his own!

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