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Pope Francis stood up for civil unions in an attempt to avoid equal marriage in Argentina

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  1. He properly see’s that as a compromise, i see it as calculating.

    1. To the best of my knowledge, he knew that marriage was going to pass before he said this

      He’s just trying to cover his arse.

      Guarantee you that everywhere CUs come up, he opposes them also.

      The big question is why he didnt do anything to stop / protect the victims during the dirty war in argentina.

      The people know this in Argentina and SSM was partially a repsonse to this different faced versiion of RATZInger.

      Equality for gay people is the social justice issue of our time, and being segregated into a less then equal status just plain doesnt cut it except in the stone age minds of the Vatican

      BTW some university ran a study r e the impact of catholicsm on Europe

      They said we would have had eg the internet, modern mediciine, etc by 1600 except for the monstrosity of rome.

      And we wouldnt have had WWII and the holocaust – the catholic church paved the way with its millenia long hatred of the Jews thatt helped to get hitler elected, the rest is histroy.

  2. I don’t think he will be manifesting or be esteem as F. of Assisi, no matter what joke of a name he calls himself.

  3. Robert in S. Kensington 20 Mar 2013, 4:15pm

    Civil unions, the lesser of two evils? I see a parallel there with the sentiments of Tory MPs in opposition to equal marriage but who claim they support CPs who that equal marriage is about to happen. Now how convenient does it get for them but oh so transparent too That Francis construes CPs or unions for gay couples as an evil anyway, then we can only deduce MPs in opposition view it the same way. I’ve always said that CPs have suddenly become a very convenient tool for them to not be labelled as homophobic. Yet, in the absence of CPs or any other similar union for gay couples. they’d still find equal marriage evil. I wouldn’t read too much into this latest revelation about Francis. The roman cult will NEVER recognise or support equal civil marriage.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 20 Mar 2013, 4:16pm

      ….now that equal marriage is about to happen, I meant.

  4. So, we should applaud him for being slightly less evil than the ex-Pope, who was a member of the Hitler Youth?

    I suppose it’s a bit much to expect a Pope to believe in equality, since the Labour Party in Britain didn’t have same-sex marraige as a party issue, leaving it up the “conscience” of Labour MPs.

    I suppose we should be thankful that the Labour Party was spared the embarrassment of having to leave it up to the “conscience” of MPs concerning marriage between white and black people.

  5. Can Pink News please point out to Peter Tatchell that his “Human Rights Foundation” pimps for money based on the idea that gay people are executed in muslim countries, when his organisation has NOT ONE campaign concerning this matter!

    He is raising money through misrepresentation. HIs foundation is doing nothing to stop it.

  6. So if he supports civil unions, I look forward to his support for their introduction in Guyana, Belize, and other Latin American countries in which gay sex is a criminal offence. Or perhaps he’ll at least commit the Vatican to supporting the decriminalisation of homosexuality around the world. No?

    Let’s be clear, no senior Catholic supports civil unions. They support whatever is the most repressive, anti-gay regime that they think they can get away with in a particular country.

    Pope Francis knew that Argentina was strongly pro-equality, but hoped that politicians might accept civil unions instead of full marriage equality. Fortunately, he was wrong.

    The Church has picked up this tactic from the US Catholic-dominated group NOM, which campaigns against civil unions in every conservative state, but is miraculously in favour of them in every state where marriage is either likely or in place.

    It hasn’t worked for NOM and it won’t work for its paymasters.

  7. So he’s a man of politics, not principles.

    Good to know where we stand with him.

  8. Lets hope all his future crusades bear the same great success.

    Sorry. I meant fail miserably.

  9. Pavlos Prince of Greece 20 Mar 2013, 8:53pm

    In fact, its nothing “liberal” or “spectacular”. One passage in the long document against same-sex marriage, signed by John Paul II in March 2003 and published by Vatican on 31 July same year, say, that if some form of gay unions in some country has became “inevitable”, local Catholic Church and Catholic politicians must resist against proposed bill of same-sex marriage and support idea of civil partnership as “lesser evil”. In this sense Cardinal Bergoglio has acting exactly under Vatican rules (and with Imprimatur from The Pope himself, no question), and not against them.

  10. The idea of a Catholic Cardinal standing up for any legal recognition of same-sex love is about as likely as Gerald Ratzinger, Keith O Brien and his coherts doing an honest day’s work.

    Actually, scrub the day’s work and replace with being honest.

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