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Communities Secretary Eric Pickles: Birmingham Council shouldn’t ask about sexuality in its questionnaire on wheelie bins

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 19 Mar 2013, 12:51pm

    I find this so bizarre. What on earth would a survey have to do with sexuality and wheelie bins? Am I missing something?

  2. He is right about wheelie bins, but for libraries that would be useful for making sure they have the literature needs for their customer base.

    1. Do you only read lesbian literature then?

    2. Jock S. Trap 19 Mar 2013, 2:52pm

      So wrong. Libraries shouldn’t have to ask for people’s sexuality before making relevant books available. They should be catering for all not waiting to be asked.

  3. Yes, Robert, but we can’t discuss it on these threads. Suffice it to say a lot of people are having rubbish sex these days.

  4. I agree my Council ask you are you Bi gay hero etc when I was complaining about a pot hole – told them to mind their own business just want the road repair.

    We want good services no matter gay straight black white

    1. Staircase2 19 Mar 2013, 4:58pm

      And how exactly are you going to ensure that everyone DOES get ‘good services’ unless you know the numbers of those people involved…?

  5. Isn’t the point of this to ensure that the surveys are reaching a representative sample of the community? Surveys routinely ask about race, gender, disabilities, etc. too, and you generally don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

    1. Yes, but including the question in a survey about rubbish and wheelie bins is rather insulting!

      1. Staircase2 19 Mar 2013, 5:00pm

        Of course it’s not
        It’s about using every available opportunity to engage with local residents – very few actually engage with their councils at all. This is a good way to ensure the council uses that opportunity to find out more about the local community.

        1. Spanner1960 21 Mar 2013, 11:55am

          Pray tell me what specifically Gay and Lesbian people need above and beyond everybody else that the council needs to provide?

          People like you are the first to bang on about equality, but then demand special dispensation. Make your frigging mind up.

  6. How is someones sexuality important when asking about refuse collections?

    These kinds of questions are contained within the census so should not be needed anywhere else.

  7. GingerlyColors 19 Mar 2013, 2:15pm

    What has sexuality go to do with the price of fish?

    1. Dave North 19 Mar 2013, 3:04pm

      Depends what you do with the fish…..

  8. Liam the God 19 Mar 2013, 2:17pm

    I’d be along side this if it weren’t Eric Pickles saying it, and Cameron saying he’d abolish these surveys and we should trust some Civil Servant on issues of Equality! One is a compulsive liar, the other a compulsive fat liar! Not much change from a farthing in that….
    All the best, Trigger the Horse

    1. Staircase2 19 Mar 2013, 5:01pm

      Well spotted!
      Well said!

  9. Jock S. Trap 19 Mar 2013, 2:50pm

    A Typical wasting Council Tax money on intrusive questionnaires, on subjects that are irrelevent to collecting refuge and indeed for the council in general.

    Maybe if they stopped wasting the money we could start having proper collections instead of endless bins and fortnightly collection.

  10. Staircase2 19 Mar 2013, 4:57pm

    “We have smart people in Whitehall who consider equalities issues while they’re making the policy. We don’t need all this extra tick-box stuff,” the prime minister said”

    …I beg to differ…

  11. Staircase2 19 Mar 2013, 5:06pm

    Can I suggest that everyone here (as well as other press outlets) are being conned into believing this is a ‘story’ as opposed to a Tory Press Release…ie propaganda…

    How on earth is it relevant that a local council have included standard questions about sexuality on a monitoring form that’s sent out as a result of a survey they’re doing? (Which appears to be on the subject of rubbish collection)

    Councils do that on ALL surveys and information forms as a way to ensure they’re reaching all sections of the community.

    Erik Pickles has a personal issue with that, THAT’S why he has turned this regular occurrence into a ‘story about bins’….ironic really…

    Day after Leveson regulation debate – coincidence or no…?

    1. Was this a pro-forma standard form asking for feedback on non-specific council services, or did it specifically target responses on wheelie bins?
      If the binmen were told “put this form through every door” to save postage on a general survey, that would put an entirely different spin on the story.
      I suspect this is just Tory propaganda attacking the largest local authority, which just happens to have been re-taken by Labour.

  12. Staircase2 19 Mar 2013, 5:09pm

    Erik Pickles: a little something of the Dickens about him no…?

  13. My sexuality, religious beliefs or the size of my footwear has nothing to do with my rubbish or wheelie bin, so why do I need to answer such stupid questions in a survey about the latter?

    I am in two minds to whether or not EIAs are needed to be honest…. Realistically we, as a society, should be catering for everyone, regardless if we have 5 disabled, 3 lgbt and 4 ethnic people in our workplace etc. All things should be in place. But society isn’t like that and it seems some of us needs the facts and figures to put simple things in place!

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