Of course they’re going to skew it as a result of Tory support of equal marriage. On the other hand, those who elected the Liberal Democrat I’m sure are fully aware that equal marriage is part of its official policy. This to me means Hutchings was voted out for her opposition to it, not just because nobody wanted a Tory to win.
Is he not aware that the LibDem candidate won?
God help us! Now that this posh twit has come second in a by-election he thinks he’s the voice of the nation.He didn’t even have the guts to stand himself. Still, the more votes he takes from the Tories the better I suppose.
Hopefully marriage equality will be in place before the next election, in which case Farage and his fellow UKIP bigots will be on a hiding to nothing by opposing it.
This man is mentally disturbed, and so are all of his supporters. Even in the most politically disillusioned areas, he will come always come second, at very best.
He should kill himself now.
Do you think there might be something a teensy bit strange about wishing death on him for his opinions?
I don’t think he’d shed any tears if you (or anyone with dark skin) shuffled off the mortal coil. I think your reaction is rather stranger than mine. ;-)
Someone should kill themselves because they disagree with you? That is completely illiberal and undemocratic.
Why have right wing gay types on pink news got so much hate against people who have different opinions to them on gay marriage that they even wish ‘death’ to them. This is real sick people you should be ashamed…
No, dweeb. Nigel Farage is the right-winger. Or are you a closet BNP supporter, too?
Nigel Farage needs to stop talking full stop. Sorry, it had to be said!
It scares me to think that anyone voted for this man’s party of mad people.
Farage is a flash in the pan. The vote against the Tories was pretty much caused by them being perceived as out of touch with what’s really going on in the country outside of London.
Farage is even more out of touch. People will wake up to that sooner or later.
*Spectator (not the New Statesman, which I don’t think is in the habit of publishing articles by right-wing Tories moaning about the effect of same-sex marriage on their party)
The BBC has given endless hours of air time over to Farage and his party ever since last year’s adoption furore -
I’d guess that Farage has support from someone of importance within the Corporation. But, of course, they’re not obliged to explain their editorial policy decisions.
With such virtually uncritical blanket coverage it comes as little surprise that UKIP’s fortunes have been on the up.
They should have to explain their editorial decisions. It’s our money. I doubt if many ukipers are fans of the BBC anyway.
Miller lost out because she’s not a very nice person, hating on people who are gay, immigrants, telling people that all state schools are bad and not good enough for her prodigy. She’s snobby, backward-thinking, elitist and comes across as selfish and self-centered.
Now a Lib Dem who supports full marriage equality won – and it isn’t even a topic which would have come up very much – people are interested in local issues, surrounding jobs (a major problem there), and they probably didn’t mention immigration much because there is little in Eastleigh. UKIP was a protest vote – we’ve seen it before. Those people don’t vote UKIP in General Elections. They can afford to upset the cart in by-elections, because it’s only for a couple of years, and doesn’t affect much.
Much as I was happy to see the Lib Dem win, the size of the UKIP vote bothers me. No doubt you are right that this is a protest and come the General Election most voters will return to type, yet UKIP scare me not for their electoral performance but for their beliefs
As much as Farage is a Goif Club bore whom has a collection of highly questionable colleagues and policies that are at best flaky, he and his party need to be put in the spotlight. I seldom agree with Cameron but his description of UKIP is not that far off the mark.
Your characterisation of the conservative candidate, whom I would not have supported, is nevertheless a travesty of the truth and appears to be deliberately misleading.
Gulliver have you sorted your anger issues out as yet
Do you want to elaborate on this?
Farage will know that labour have an 11/12 point lead in the opinion polls over the tories. so supporting “gay marriage” doesn’t seem to be harming labour? Oh, and the Lib Dems actually won, UKIP lost.
Nigel Barrage and his followers need a uniform, with black shirts of course.
Brown shorts [sic], surely?
The reason why Farage wants Camerson to stop talking about equal marriage is because it is highlighting the fact that Farage is against it, is a homophobe, a bigot, not progressive … we’ve all noticed the same – bigots don’t like us calling them bigots. They don’t want to be seen as backward-thinking, or religious nutters, or haters or oppressing others, or being unfair. But they are all of those things, they have to own up to that. They have to confront why they are really like that — because it’s not normal, not now, not with the advanced level of understanding that the majority now have.
His opposition feigning concern for Cameron and his electoral chances is just pathetic.
Unlike other political parties Farage seems to have taken on the role of the one and only spokeperson? We rarely if ever see his inner cabinet being interviewed on TV, it’s always just Farage. Why is that?
Because when they let the others out of the box they say even more stupid things than even Farage can come up with. Just look at that chappie in Croydon earlier this year. Plus for some reason which escapes me completely quite a lot of people like Farage. The phrase ‘snake oil salesman’ could have been invented for him.
Plus since when is Farage in the habit of giving the Tories election advice? And I think you’ll find that it’s those who are against gay couples marrying that are the talking about it the most.
Can’t blame him for that TBH. Their only other famous face is Neil Hamilton :-D
Rubbish! I heard some Conservative voters who’d voted UKIP being interviewed and not one of them even mentioned equal marriage.
Farage is deluded, and just looking to get a dig in at a group he dislikes (that is, LGBT people not the Tories – although I’m sure he dislikes them too :D)
Farage only really likes Farage
The fact that UKIP came second shows how truly lost the people of Eastleigh are. Shameful. Thankfully there were enough sane people there to keep UKIP out of power in this tiny by-election seat and make sure that this idiot’s party have been silenced.
I’m from Peterborough, and I would just like to apologise for my MP. He is not representative every voter in his constituency.
And to think I felt a wee bit sorry for him sprawled out, legs akimbo, after the plane crash.
UKIP is a cocktail of traditionalist ex-Tories and ex-BNPers. Its whole philosophy is regressive with the intention to take us back to the utopian decade for conservatism – the 1950s, the decade of “no blacks, no Irish, no dogs” and they’ll add to the list “no gays” if they ever have their way. The electorate does have a questionable voting record, but this party will never gain power on its own. It could however, influence the Conservative Party by frightening it into adopting a UKIP agenda and therefore it could win power by the back door.
Nigel Farage needs to stop being a dick. And it’s ‘marriage equality’, not ‘gay marriage’, thank you very much.
Most people want to see the UK out of the EU. Also most people are happy to see gay people be given the right to marry. The introduction of same-sex marriages into the UK will happen in only a matter of time, be it by the current government or by an incoming Labour one. As I keep saying, David Cameron will trump UKIP and Labour at the next election if he listens to the voters and set a date for a referendum on EU membership before the next election. The EU is an issue that affects everybody living in the UK, unlike same sex marriages which will benefit only a minority. Many voters see the gay marriage debate as ‘pandering to a minority’ and taking up Parliamentary time when they should be dealing with other, more important issues. Don’t get me wrong, I am all for marriage equality. A number of countries have it but I am sure that legislation was passed without the need for a lengthy debate.
‘Most people want to see the UK out of the EU’
Shouldn’t that read ‘I want to see’ ?
What knowledge do you have to speak for ‘most people’ ?
Recent opinion polls have consistantly shown that more people in the UK wish to leave the EU than want to stay in. A large number, however are undecided on the issue.
Without slating the entire UK population, most have no idea about the issues of leaving the EU … and … The Council of Europe; most people haven’t even heard of the latter. We helped create the Council of Europe, and it’s kept the EU at relative peace since the 50s, it created the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, it created the European Court of Human Rights – the EU is primarily just a trading block, the ECHR laws are to to with the Council of Europe – and leaving the EU won’t remove our obligations to follow the ECHR – unless we leave the Council of Europe — which is a far, far more serious act than simply leaving the EU.
When people realise what it actually means – they are not going to be for leaving the EU. As regards the ECHR laws most people want us to be able to easily deport terrorists, etc., but are happy with the overall package. For the EU most people want to remain in it but re-negotiate our payments in and what we get back.
Large number of polls on it here;
and not every poll indicates a majority want to leave, and where they do it’s often fairly evenly split. Some polls shows a very large number who are undecided. Like the AV vote we’ve mostly heard insufficient details about any proposals.
The EU is heading for disaster and after a period of calm the crisis in the Eurozone has reared it’s ugly head once again with the result of the recent Italian election. The Euro is a stitch-up with countries who have joined receiving cheap loans. Unfortunately these loans have to be paid back and Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain (the PIIGS) are finding it increasingly difficult to repay these loans, especially as their economies are contracting at an alarming rate. We all know what happened to Germany in the early 1930′s after they borrowed a large amount of money just before the Wall Street Crash. There are plenty of far-right parties waiting in the wings just hoping that things go pear-shaped. If UKIP are bad and the BNP are worse, parties like Greece’s Golden Dawn are downright terrifying. Be scared, be very scared. I do not wish to stay on board a sinking ship. I know that we are not in the Euro but this crisis will drag us down with them.
I agree, GulliverUK. The UK will not be leaving the EU I don’t think. Not even Cameron agrees with it, although his right wing Eurosceptics within the party want to get out. All that is going to happen is a re-negotiation of the terms for the UK followed by a referendum. It’s is important to note that Briitish businesses, the bedrock of Tory support, are against leaving the EU since it is their largest trading block and investment there has been very lucrative for them in terms of exports. It is the single largest trading zone in the world and the UK’s most important. Leaving the EU would be extremely damaging for the economy, for business and for employment.
He needs to just stop talking…
The homophobia across the country is shocking. To be so public with their hate.
All I care about now is David Cameron getting this bill through in the face of the nasty bigoted MPs and UKip.
They should be so ashamed. This is what the young see and see as unacceptable like the rest of us.
Nigel Farage is a total disgrace and he certainly doesn’t realise the winning party in this by-election was committed to marriage not against it like UKip and it’s nasty supporters.
‘Nigel Farrage creams off the Tory bigot vote shocker’.
All this confirms is what we already knew, that UKIP is ‘BNP lite’ for the middle classes.
They don’t like it when we point out the flaming obvious but basically their unique selling point is policies designed for people who don’t approve of johnny foreigner or poofters moving in next door but wouldn’t go so far as to beat them up in the street.
We’re more than halfway through the present parliamentary term, and by now Equal Marriage should have become a reality and dropped off the radar.
Unfortunately, dithering and procrastination were the order of the day.
Eastleigh now makes it even more important that Cameron must speed up getting Equal Marriage into law.
Let’s just whizz it through the committee stage and use the Parliament Act if necessary to overrule the Lords!
Once legalised, the sky won’t fall in and life will go on. Even UKIP will find other issues to fret about, Romanians and Bulgarians no doubt…
It’s the likes of the three stooges, Tim Loughton, David Burrowes and Jim Shannon trying to delay passage with frivolous amendments that so far have been dropped overwhelmingly by the majority in committee. Their persistent screeds regarding religious protections are beyond nauseating. Not content with the quadruple lock, they want every minute detail spelled out and included in the bill guaranteeing no lawsuits brought against religious nutters who work in the public sector who are against equal marriage, especially registrars and teachers. They insist that no registrar in fact nobody should be prosecuted for expressing their opposition in the public sector even if it’s part of their job description. They want special (additional) protection for religious nutters. Not going to happen, thankfully. It’s hard to imagine that this bill has to go through the same scrutiny in the Lords. Let’s hope when it gets there, it’s not going to be ‘massacred’ as some seem to believe.
I’m definitely not a fan of the Tory Party but since when did CallmeDave start taking advice from the leader of the BNP for slow learners, Nige Farage… The seat was always a Lib Dem seat with a big majority and it would follow that it would remain so. Whaat is of concern is that Labuor got beaten into 4th place. The labour Party urgently needs to find a leader who will lead them to victory come 2015 and neither of the Milliband geeky brothers are that leader….
Have you actually read UKIP’s policy on gay marriage? Judging by this article, I suspect the answer to be no. Either that, or you are lying to your readers.
Don’t keep us in suspense Bobby. Please tell us what UKIP’s policy is on marriage equality. Considering Farage’s view that Cameron should stop talking about same-sex marriage, I suspect that it’s not very positive. If Cameron stopped talking about same-sex marriage he would in effect, stop dealing with it and the legislation wouldn’t progress. We have to assume therefore, that UKIP’s policy is not to support marriage equality.
James, since they are against marriage equality no self-respecting person who is gay, or has a relative who is gay, or a friend who is gay, should even consider voting UKIP. UKIP are completely against any form of marriage equality – we don’t need to assume that because it’s stated policy, and they’ve even sacked people who have publically said they agree with marriage equality — how’s that for thought control and authoritarian rule. The only other group which sacks people for what they think is the Catholic church – so perhaps UKIP == The Catholic church in disguise !!
That’s even more extreme than I thought they were! With such an authoritarian leadership of UKIP, Farage must be rather bitter with so little real power. A wannabe-Prime Minister who’ll never be Prime Minister. Cameron will hopefully not let himself be talked into adopting a UKIP agenda by his more conservative back-benchers.
I’ve read UKIP’s policies and I don’t like them.
They urge support for the Coalition for Marriage: there’s even a prominent C4M link on their home page.
“Political correctness is stifling free speech.” That would be a green light for hate speech.
“Free the police force from the straitjacket of political correctness.” That would be a green light for the police to hassle anyone they didn’t like.
Thanks for the link Gerry. This part of their anti-marriage equality policy really stuck out:
“There is, apart from a small but noisy minority within the gay community, no strong demand for this. This is therefore not vital to the life and well-being of our Nation and, given the risks attendant upon it, should not be proceeded with.”
So, there we have it folks: according to UKIP we are a small and noisy minority! The well-being of LGBT citizens is not vital, according to UKIP, to the life and well-being of our nation. The party must therefore consider us to be second-class citizens, even though we pay first-class taxes and fight on behalf of our nation on the front-line of battlegrounds. By ignoring the many opinion polls favouring same-sex marriage, it deliberately lies by stating that there is no strong demand for equality.
Yes I have taken the trouble to find out about UKIP’s policy on gay marriage and it greatly troubles me, whilst it seems reasonable there is a great deal that is unsaid. The likes of Godfrey Bloom, whom in moments of a refreshed state! would be quite happy to go back to the good old days pre 1967!!! He is one of my MEP’s and is about as much use as a piece of damp cardboard yet his views on homosexuality are as odious as he is!!!!
For what it’s worth, and I suspect it may seem intolerant and get marked down, but I don’t have any friends who vote UKIP, nor would I find it easy to consider someone a friend if they were voting against marriage equality, which is what voting for UKIP is. I could not have friends who were staunchly against my own equality and that of all other people who happen to be gay.
Could I have a Catholic friend who kept telling me that me wanting to get married and have equal rights was wrong? No, I could not. My equality is fundamental to my ability to feel part of society, to feel valued and respected.
So if you are gay and you support UKIP, that makes me incredibly uncomfortable – that people can’t see they are voting for a party which wants to keep them, and all other people who are gay, from equal rights. Same goes if you support the BNP.
Why any gay person would vote UKIP or BNP is beyond me. It would be like a turkey voting for Christmas.
Friends that are against marriage equality can be ‘dropped’, unfortunately we’re stuck with our family members (particularly parents) that are anti-equality. Family members can be crueller than friends.
Anti-equality family members can also be dropped. Your family are the people you care about and who care about you, not people you happen to share DNA with. If you’re lucky these two things will coincide but if they don’t it’s better to cut them loose and get on with living life.
I can’t see myself ever wanting to cut my parents loose, even if they are against marriage equality. I’m sure a lot of gay people have to accept family relationships as they are rather than how they’d like them to be. Many of us have probably become indoctrinated by society that, regarding close family, it is us who should seek acceptance and be tolerant of any bigotries they may have rather than expecting them to treat us as they would if we were straight. Obviously it isn’t an ideal situation, but unfortunately it is the reality.
The most vile and abnoxious man in British Politics today. He’s loathsome and a total opportunist. The sooner he shuffles off into the wilderness the better for all of us.
are there any people on here who actually like UKIP, now I know they are not supportive of gay marriage(which obviously I disagree with) but they do support civil partnership and what is the point of getting married if mass immigration means there are no jobs and housing is unaffordable
I found the phrase that it was time to focus on migrants chilling and horrifying – but that was from the Tory party. Tories’ problem is they shade into UKIP at the edges. Strange. Any way UKIP are utterly vile.
Dave Cameron isn’t the one obsessing about ‘gay marriage’. It’s the right wing of the Tories that prefer to lose the next election than grant equality supported by a big parliamentary majority in a free vote.
I think it’s more to do with how Cameron and his cronies have treated the poor etc. The tax rises and so forth that has cost them votes!!
UKIP Leader Nigel Garage just needs to stop talking.