This bill, like all bigotry is neither logical or sensible in any way. To determine if something is bigoted, one merely has to see the words from the author that state he wants the bill to protect the People from “discrimination” by the minority the bill targets. The Oppressors always tell us that they wish to protect “religious” freedom or some other such nebulous nonesensical idea when in fact they promote the very “discrimination” of which they speak, but against the minority group, rather than “for” the majority….
There goes another bit of the European Convention on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms and its case law that the Russian Federation is willing to throw into the dust bin.
Shame on them.
Stalin-era mentality still has a grip on Russia. Its Governments haven’t understood the concept of democracy, holding onto Soviet-style beliefs of oppressing a minority to ‘protect’ a majority.
There’s very little difference between the extremes of the left and right. That’s why Russia found the ‘transition’ so easy.
Tsarist tyrants, communist tyrants, christian tyrants…the more things change in Russia, the more they stay the same.
A real democracy would have nothing to fear from a plurality of viewpoints, but real democracy is something Russa has never experanced and its leaders would never allow.
So right, David. Its leaders fear real democracy and oppressing a harmless minority reveals just how deep their insecurities are.
It’s bad enough that this bill targets such a large number of Russian citizens and puts their lives in danger, relegating them to second-class Russian citizenship. It also sets a model for other Eastern Orthodox countries and legitimizes attempts to criminalize any and all homosexual expression or behavior, by the tyranny of the majority. At the least it’s uncivilized and shameful, and brings to mind the history of pogroms waged against Jews in the not too distant Russian past.
If a Christian’s faith is so weak it cannot survive the proximity of people who are outside of their worldview then that Christian has no faith at all. The only thing this law protects are the priests who prey on the weak minded who might otherwise realise that they are being lied to by the charlatans in dresses.
Gay rights should be considered human rights. Even majority of people mustn´t defy them. If Russia wants to be treated like a cívilized country, its stance on LGBT issues has to be changed.
Good luck with that. In 1990 the entire muslim world rejected the UN Declaration of Human Rights, putting The Cairo Declaration in its place. In the Cairo Declaration, sharia law is above human rights. Don’t expect to see gay rights enshrined in the Cairo Declaration any time soon. The UN Declaration makes slavery illegal, but under sharia law slavery is legal (see Sultan Tabandeh’s book on the UN Declaration).
The most high-ranking muslim clerics in places like Egypt are encouraging the muslim world to return to slave-taking in Africa to boost the economy of muslim countries. If the UN and Shamnesty International doesn’t care about slavery and the Cairo Declaration, they sure ain’t gonna care about gay rights. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2003/11/saudi-religious-leader-calls-for-slaverys
London is twinned with Moscow, Manchester with St Petersburg – two of the most LGBT friendly cities in the UK are twinned with two of the most homophobic cities in Russia. This seems very odd….
The evil twins :)
Lol, protecting the public from the pink peril. Oh, so many relieved russians are now going to be able to sleep soundly at night.
Sergei Lavrov looks like a nasty piece of work.
There was a sad story from Russia on Radio 4 this lunchtime about a gay man who was collecting his son from school. He’d had to move away from where he lived so that no-one knew he was gay.
He’d had a fake marriage so he could adopt his son, and was now living with his male partner who he had to pretend was a family member. He couldn’t even tell the child who he really was in case the boy inadvertently gave him away.
It must be terrible Iris, them living in fear like that – fear of their community and fear of his son innocently telling others. They have each other which will give them comfort and also a survival instinct. Unfortunately, there are some places still left in the UK that are like that, but Russia is a very big place and it’s probably unwelcoming wherever they go. If there is a homophobic atmosphere in the large cities, it must be worse in the towns and urban areas.
…I meant “rural areas”! duh!
If straight Christian Russians are so oppressed by the LGBT Russians, then how come there isn’t a bill currently progressing through the State Duma which specifically suppresses CHRISTIAN speech? Someone told Sirgay Loverough today was Opposite Day, perhaps?
This just in: Russia will be building a wall so high that the planet’s prevailing west winds will not be able to blow over Russian territory.
There is a distinct difference between “asking” for protection, and being told you “need” protection.
The distinction here is the Russians are being “subjected to Protection” whether they need it or not.
Freedom of choice or human rights are being violated from every angle.
Yeah you nasty old homophobe. You would never have any attraction for a gay man, so stuff your protections where they fit best.
” “go about their business absolutely freely and unpunished””
But the Russian LGBT community are being punished by this homophobic bill. Why don’t they see that?
The ‘business’ is just being able to be who we are and how we are which boils down to being human.
“Moral, religious and historical values” are discrimination, vile values. It is completely unacceptable to think so called morals can be used in a immoral way.
They are truly disgusting people and all because they have a chosen religious lifestyle. This Does Not make them superior!
I wonder what legislation they’re planning to introduce to protect the majority of Russians from having to tolerate a dictatorship?
Not much, it seems …..
So much for free speech. Russians still don’t get the concept.
All good. Fingers crossed for it to be made law. Homosexuality should not be promoted or encourage amongst anyone.
Your sexuality is private, keep it that way.
Your thoughts are private, keep it that way.
Aw..diddums. The big, strong, Russian straight people, so sure in their sexuality, need to be protected from the idea that life could be different.
I just want to put all the bigots and haters of the world who hate LGBT people straight into the gas chambers!