Is that a recent photo? He looks like a lesbian.
What an unhelpful and unnecessary comment. First, what he looks like is matter of opinion. I think he looks fine. Secondly, it takes time for the hormone therapy to ‘harden’ the facial features. Transition is difficult enough without having to face negative comments instead of receiving support.
U mean cretin
I’m confused by Stonewall’s approach to Trans people :( If you compare websites, they look almost the same but they’re not:
I don’t think it’s the same organisation. Stonewall UK is notoriously ignorant when it comes to trans people and trans issues. Funny and ironic, considering the riot they’re named after was started primarily by trans women.
Not trans women. Drag Queens. Big difference. One is much deadlier than the other!
My firs reaction was to laugh at your statement and then I stopped and actually scowled at it …
I don’t think Stonewall UK is so ignorant as to confuse drag queens with transsexuals.
As I understood it Stonewall doesn’t deal with transgender issues as they do not relate to sexuality. Which makes sense…until you see the websites you highlighted. Clearly someone needs to remind Stonewall Scotland!
LGB and Transgender issues should be kept seperate. One is an issue of sexuality and the other of gender. There’s no real link. I am certain the LGB community would always support the trans community, but we don’t have to be at one with them. It gets too confusing.
Who do we add next? Religious groups? Ethnic groups?
Equality yes, but leave LGB alone. Some straight people still think gay men spend most of their lives in women’s clothes as it is!
That’s OK, as a trans person I’m getting pretty tired of being lumped onto the end of the acronym without any real focus on trans issues as well. I’ve always felt that we need to strike out on our own if we need to get anything done for ourselves, as it’s obvious most of the “LGBT” organisations are solely focused on the “LG” part. Not to mention that there is an awful lot of transphobia still going around in the community. As long as LGB people realise that some trans people are also lesbian, gay or bi and actually do belong in the LGB community, I’m happy for us to go our separate ways.
Some acronyms also include “I” to represent intersex and whilst I am aware of many gay people who support intersex people I am not sure if the majority do. I agree that matters of sexuality and gender identity are distinctly different, but the argument to keep these various groups together does work in terms of mutual support. The fact is, many trans people are gay and growing numbers of intersex people are also gay and/or are transitioning from the sex assigned to them in infancy. i believe that we should celebrate the overlap of interests rather than combat bigotry as separate units whilst acknowledging our differences.
I agree Jay! I think the acronym in common usage is LGBT and it seems a shame that it’s only L and G, and occasionally B that are campaigned for. I feel that it is a shame that Stonewall England and Wales preclude T and I from their campaigning when it would be better to work together to combat bigotry. Kudos is due to Stonewall Scotland but I’m still confused how they can have a completely different strapline yet have the same website and VAT number.
I agree with you both. The two (or three) communities would be stronger marching side-by-side than they are lumped together. There is no connection between homosexuality/bisexuality and gender. It’s unfair to Trans and Intersex people. Of course there will be a crossover situation, that’s nature.
I do wish there was more education surrounding transgender issues; the public still confuse it with transvestism, cross dressing, drag etc etc This false association with LGB doesn’t help with that.
I’m disabled but I don’t think LGBTID would be very popular :D
Oh dear, Brian….. is anyone forcing you into high heels against your will?
If you have to make a special effort to prove your worth and prove you don’t ‘wear womeon’s clothes afterall’ then I suggest, find a different set of friends. Some straight people are idiots. That is out of your control.
We are a targeted minority. We know what bigotry fels like (well, I do anyway). We should show solidarity with anyone in the same position, whether it’s trans phobia, racism, anti Muslim bigotry, the victims of theocratic tyranny.
Nature loves diversity. Get over it.
anti Muslim bigotry? How about anti Muslim realism? You obviously support the message in the Koran & Hadith that Gay people and Jews should be murdered en mass. There was another group who also supported this thinking, and many Muslims fought shoulder to shoulder with them to that end. No wonder the epithet ‘left wing fascist’ has been coined.
Back in Germany in the 1930s many people subscribed to the parties views, and it is dispiriting that in these days little has changed with far too few prepared to challenge the oppressive policies which will end in disaster – again.
How the fuck do you know what is written in Koran about LGBT and Jewish people? Did you read it? or you are just speaking ignorantly, with a few sentences that you learned from T.V: Iranian government punishes the gays with death penalty doesnt mean that Koran says so. Islam is a homophobic religion as much as the others… Dont be such an idiot, read something!
This is not my first comment and you are very intolerant ignorant & rude!
I have a copy of the Koran – the Pickthall translation – please tell me as an expert which translation you feel is the best as you obviously know it inside out!
6981 Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me) ; kill him.
6983 Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.
6985 Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant
Islam is not a homophobic religion as much as the others, and you know nothing outside of the rose tinted fantasy world you clearly live in. Christianity condemns sodomy, but this is often rape not consensual acts – it does not exhort its followers to kill gays in the way Islam does, and so far as I can tell Islam is the only religion which requires this.
Abu Dawud (4462) – The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Lot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”
Abu Dawud (4448) – “If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death.”
al-Tirmidhi, Sunan 1:152 – [Muhammad said] “Whoever is found conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver.”
Reliance of the Traveller, p17.2 – “May Allah curse him who does what Lot’s people did.”
I think having posted the evidence I’m entitled to an apology!
Are trans people still fertile? I’m all for embracing who you are, don’t get me wrong, but I wonder about voluntarily sterilizing yourself to change genders. Or am I not understanding it properly? Yes, gays tend not to have children, but that is starting to change… This must be a bigger decision to make that I currently can grasp…
I think you have to a little more specific as to what a ‘trans person’ actually is. Pre op Male to Female might be depending on physiology and the length of time exposed to hormones. Same thing with a Female to Male although the cessastion of periods is a definite sign.
Post operative Male to Female are infertile (until womb transplant is available) and Female to Male remains theoretically fertile post op unless they have a hysterectomy.
There are various options for assisted reproduction, including freezing eggs or sperm prior to surgery.
Rüzgar sounds like he’s very happy and content now. It’s very touching to read how he describes his newly found freedom and relaxed outlook on life.