“The breaking of the seventh commandment was blamed on a “gay lobby” influencing the Holy See to commit sexual offences”.
How many straws can these people clutch at? I suppose we are to blame for the constant breaking of the eigth commandment too.
It is always the “others” that are at fault. The male prostitutes asked them to sin, the nightclub owners made them do it, etc. etc.
Which commandment is it that says, “Thou shalt not be an arse!”
That would be the 11th commandment…it’s the one that no body sees, because it doesn’t fit on the first two stone tablets… so it had to be written on the back.
The Guardian has published a more informative report, including the lines “La Repubblica said the cardinals’ report identified a series of meeting places in and around Rome. They included a villa outside the Italian capital, a sauna in a Rome suburb, a beauty parlour in the centre, and a former university residence that was in use by a provincial Italian archbishop.”
I should not be surprised. Beside the gay affair of a past Pope’s secretary which I have referred to further down this thread, I’ve just remembered that when I visited Rome 20 years ago I met an old friend, a priest, who had become a professor at a Catholic university there. He was itching to tell me all about his new young lover. A young Italian lad named Mario.
Lying and deluded hypocrites, the lot of them.
these things happen when abstinance is required. just saying…
Indeed, Molly. The Xian concept of “abstinence” is an extraordinary one. It is one of the cornerstones by which the early church straitjacketed all expressions of, and enjoyment of, sensual and physical pleasures, life’s delights. They created a new system whereby “abstinence”, i.e. the refusal of life’s pleasures, was made into an impossible and unnatural virtue.
Disgusting use of propaganda to spread (or try to) more negative reports against the LGBT community.
This is clearly designed to make the Pope some kind of ‘victim’ when it is him and his ilk that are guilty.
Typical of religion to reverse their own actions by blaming all others they disagree with.
“thou shalt not commit adultery”.
Given that gay people will NEVER be recognised as married by this cult, how can they possibly commit adultery.
What a nest of vipers this lot are.
But where in the Ten Commandments does it say “Thou shalt not be a homosexual” ? Nowhere actually!
Exactly and if it was such a sin and abomination as its claimed then surely it would be there but it isnt because it isnt….deluded fools
And if it’s such a sin, why didn’t Jesus mention it – you know that guy who hung about with twelve other guys and a fag hag.
And, of course, we don’t believe in sin way. Things which are wrong, yes, but sin, no.
Is there anything we can’t do? With all the power these wingnuts seem to say we have who wants to lead a world takeover? :P
Yes please! Wouldn’t the world be a much better place?!! The Pink Revolution starts here!
So the Vatican is blaming ‘the gays’ for his resignation. We should be proud of that! Though, seriously it’s an attempt to further ferment hatred against the LGBT community. The saying “Once a Nazi, Always a Nazi” appears to be true in his case. The level of homophobic hatred already stirred-up within religions is a cause of concern. Is the Vatican trying to start modern-day Christian Crusades, this time against gay people?
I read recently he was physically and mentally depleted as well as being blind in one eye, unable to walk, and more or less doubly incontinent. I think these factors are more likely to have contributed to his abdication than any outside influences, gay or otherwise.
One week it’s hurricanes and floods, the next it’s the pope resigning.
The report is said to say that there was widespread breaking of commandments within the Holy See, in particular the sixth commandment, “thou shalt not steal”, and the seventh, “thou shalt not commit adultery”.
Now, “The Holy See” is a term that refers to the Catholic “government”, as it were, the bureaucracy of the Catholic Church located in The Vatican. Ambassadors of the Vatican are also considered part of The Holy See.
Now, this bit of “news” suggests that a “gay lobby” (some group or gays) have caused “sexual offences” to be carried out within The Holy See, i.e. amongst members of the church’s Rome-based bureaucracy!
So WHO, precisely, in The Holy See was involved, and WHAT, specifically, were these sexual offences, and WITH WHOM were they conducted?
Is this news item not suggesting that the Pope resigned because of a gay scandal involving clerical members of the Catholic church in the Vatican state?????
If so, then how delicious!
Eddy, read the article I posted in a link below. Has more to do with the contents thereof than meets the eye. We’re just the scapegoats for every scandal in this corrupt cult. I’m absolutely amazed they can equate adultery with gays, really proves just how desperate they are.
A gay lobby within the Vatican – No way! Then they would dress sooo much better! Last time I went to mass I did however see a nice trans – and I couldn´t help myself and shouted some words of encouragement: Nice dress darling – but that handbag you are swinging is on fire!!
It’s not often a Comment on these PN pages makes me laugh out loud!
And so the domino’s start to fall…….
Adultery, the 7th commandment and the fault of gays? My my, we’re to blame for the divorce rate now.
This scandal has also a lot to do with what you can read in the link below.
Thanks for that! Fascinating! They’re no better than the Masons! We should write to Stephen Poliakoff and beg him to do a five-parter slowly and masterfully revealing the sordid underbelly of The Holy See and all its limbs!
I second that, Eddy.
HEY! It’s just struck me! It’s time for me to tell another tale – and a totally totally true one too!
My ex-boyfriend was sent to Rome to finish off his training to be a priest. And he was considered so “holy”, so talented at being “holy”, that he made a lot of connections inside The Holy See!
He was very proud of the fact that every week he used to go to a convent in Rome where the Pope’s own secretary would go to hear the nun’s confessions! This ex-boyf of mine used to visit the convent so that when the Pope’s secretary had finished hearing the nun’s confessions he would then hear my ex-boyfriend’s!
And thus every week, in an upstairs room of a convent in Rome, my ex-boyfriend used to ride up and down on top of the Pope’s own secretary (who was a priest, of course).
Now THAT is “sexual offences” with “The Holy See”, is it not? And THAT, I tell you, was going on 20 years ago!
And knowing such folk as I do, I would say it’s been going on EVER SINCE!
Presumably you were referring to your ex-boyfriend when you said “Lying hypocrites!” He said he was training to be a priest and having sex with the Pope’s secretary – certainly hypocritical and almost certainly a lie. By why on earth would you believe him (that is if he actually said it)? It is obvious nonsence. 20 years ago the Pope was John Paul II and his private secretary was Stanisław Dziwisz, a priest then, and 53 years old, and far from attractive as a sexual partner. And there is absolutely no record of him going out of the Vatican to hear the confessions of any nuns. Furthermore, the way you relate your story is all wrong. Your phrases ‘was considered so “holy”, so talented at being “holy” ‘, are just not the way Catholics speak about such things. There is so much misinformation about the Vatican around, why not devote your literary talents to telling us a story which is actually true?
Joe Mac, you were clearly gripped by the account and did a little thinking. Good for you. But please know I deliberately did not give the exact year because I felt that would be going a little too far. The exboyfriend is still alive. The secretary is not. Neither is the particular pope, of course.
So sorry not to furnish you with the exact year. But I assure you, it’s utterly true. And I clearly remember the day I stood behind the cleric in question in St. Peter’s Square while his doddery master waved to the crowd of brainwashed idiots from the balcony above. The ex-boyfriend had fallen out with him and so didn’t speak to him, but he pointed him out and I was able to identify him.
But I shall say no more. You’re going to have FAITH. (No doubt now you’ll be doing a little more looking back and considering other popes and their secretaries, yes?)
Catholic priests have been on their knees in more ways than one for years.
We should now ‘out the bigots’ and hammer in the last nail of the coffin lid and finnish the holy see for good!
While the ‘faithful’ continue to pay into the coffers of this very successful international business, I’m afraid things won’t change. The best way to focus the mind of The Vatican – and any other ‘gay-hate’ organisation – on their homophobia is to hit ‘em where it hurts … in the pocket. It’s amazing how a drop in income due to a particular political viewpoint can quickly bring about a change of heart.
In his dementia he seems to be confusing lobbies with closets
Ignore these stupid paranoid stories. Benedict is a sick old man no longer up to running the world’s most multinational autocracy. That’s all. Expect his successor to maintain the same line.
Hardly “stupid paranoid stories”, Riondo. Recall all the scandals that have been demonstrated in the Catholic church. Then consider how many have been found to have been hidden. And then consider just how many have been successfully kept from our view!
provided comments on the Pope’s resignation from office and said “In the past 600 years no pope has ever resigned. Therefore a question arises in the public mind as to the reason for it. Of course the justification provided by the West is that the Pope had grown old.”
Concerning the true reason behind the Pope’s resignation, Talebzadeh said “A gospel named the Gospel of Barnabas which recognizes the prophet of Islam, which Christianity claims to be fake, is the reason. Throughout history whenever the gospel was found it was quickly bought and disappeared. It is a gospel in which the name of Islam’s prophet has been mentioned many times.”
“The gospel was found in 2000 by the Turkish Police and is being kept there since,” Talebzadeh stated.
He added that “Pope has seen the gospel and been shocked by it. He doesn’t want to answer questions and therefore has resigned, because Jesus has many times in the gospel given news of the coming of Muhammad (PBUH).”
Such a shame they are not bound by some form of Freedom of Information legiation. Lets face it though, freedom hardly exists in their vocabulary
these things happen when a church requiires abstinance.