Well hallelulia! The penny’s dropped. Homophobia BEGINS in schools – particualrly religious ones. Stop allowing religions to teach that “homopsexuality is bad” and you’ll wipe out homophobia overnight – except in those who have their own ‘issues’ about being gay and in denial …..
I agree with the last 2 comments regarding the influence of the church..but lest we forget if any equal marriage proposals were to come into effect the nation would have to vote on changing the Constitution.
It wouldn’t need to, our constitution in Ireland doesn’t define marriage as only being between a man and a woman, our government decided to refer it to the consitutional convention as a way of stalling, the Labour party and Fine Gael do not want to faces this as it has the potencial to split the already weak coalition between the two parties.
While Ruairi Quinn is obviously spot on, perhaps he’d to better in lecturing at home, prior to taking to Europe.
I grew up in Catholic Ireland and go back regularly, and while there’s been so much positive changes there, the fact remains that education is in the armlock of the Catholic Church.
For example, every primary school is pretty much located either in, or next to the Catholic Church and the local priest visits the school regularly to ensure the teachings of the Catholic Church are forced down the gullible young minds of the naive.
I’d ask Ruairi Quinn to rather than waffle on telling us something we already know, to do something positive about the problem and ban Catholic clergy or any other religion from being thought in schools.
But he won’t do this, will he?
Because as Ruairi well knows as does every Irish person, the republic of Ireland remains firmly in the grip of the Catholic church.
It’s an outrage in this day and age. If I set up my own religion, ‘The Peter Panists’, will I have an equal right with the Catholics to brain-wash children to obey my will and put lots of money in my coffers and have a moral obligation to produce lots and lots of little Panists? So why is the Catholic church given these special rights? Fear? Superstition? It’s terrible. The words ‘grow up’ spring to mind …..
Folks – give the guy some credit. Yes, Ireland is still i the grip of the church, but step by step surely. Credit where due. Well done Mr Quinn.
If Quinn wanted to really help us and protect young LGBT people then he would have gone though with his party’s promise to secularize education in Ireland.
One of my friends who went to the same Irish Catholic School as myself was outed in sixth year and subject to horrible homophobic bullying to the point that he considered suicide, the school did nothing to help him citing “ethos concerns”. This was only three years ago.
Apperantlly homophobic bullying is within the remit of a Catholic Ethos.
Ireland needs massive reforms in education, not just for the good of LGBT students but for all and Quinn is not the man for the job, he traded his believes for a minister’s pention.
What a shame that little has changed in schools in Ireland. I remember the days when Fine Gael were hand in hand with the Catholic Church and I remember the days when you had to ask permission of the diocese Bishop if you wanted to study in Trinity College Dublin.
As you rightly point out, Quinn swapped his beliefs for a Ministers pension and Fine Gael despite saying otherwise, as still the political wing of the Catholic Church in Ireland.
The religious control of Irish schools is pernicious and completely unfair to taxpaying parents of different religious convictions or none.
Even cross-community Educate Together schools are supposed to have a Christian ethos.
Irish education has a lot of problems (TY?). But the lack of secular schools is the biggest.
Well done that man :-)
Well done, for what exactly?
His blatant hypocrisy?
The same situation exists in Poland where Roman Catholic religious teaching drums into the young minds that gay is a sin etc. One teacher that I was told about was quoted as saying that ‘gays do not exist’ …oh the joys (sic) of the Roman Catholic Church and it is interesting to note that no-one stops them teaching about homophobia and hate for the LGBT Community etc.
Schools, (and also workplaces) could consider trans and gender non-conforming students/employees for a start when they are setting out something dress codes. As such seemingly mundane rules can have a disproportionate impact on the lives of, partiicularly young, trans people.