Calling for people to be killed… Very ‘Christian’ of you. Idiot!
Unfortunately it IS very ‘Christian’nowadays. Nowadays I don’t know how to react when a person says they are Christian. What does it mean?
By all means cast me into the sea: Tamarama Beach in Sydney or Unawatuna Bay in Sri Lanka in early December for preference.
Ah… Tamarama Beach, I use to live near there in the 1980′s early 90′s.
I lived down the road at Clovelly (not the Clovelly in England). Tamarama
Beach was known as glamarama beach because all the beautiful people
would sun bake there.
That is indeed what it used to be known as when I used to go there, also in the late 80s!
Another non Christian sprouting off his foul anti-Christ mouth…. he is to be ignored.
Whatever else this moron’s group might be it most certainly is NOT Christian!!! I’d cheerfully dump him and his group in a septic tank except they would contaminate the contents!!!!!!
Try actually reading the Bible, its full of abhorrent bullshit. This notion that true Christians are somehow wonderful and loving is absurd.
None of them ever read it.
They only sup up the edited bits there priests tell them on a dreary Sunday morning in their temples of piety.
Anyone out there who still doubt that homophobia ALWAYS boils down to religion ?! To us – gays and transgenders in “the West” ; money is not the root of all evil—but Christianity-
Actually Helge Vladimir, the Soviet and Maoist regimes were horrifically homophobic as well.
Don’t get me wrong, I would love to ascribe all the prejudice in the world to organised religion; sadly (for me) it would appear atheist societies can be every bit as barbaric (and believe me, it gives me no pleasure to acknowledge this).
Right you are.But remember- in Soviet people were keen Bible-readers, also during this actual period. It is an old book you know, widespread and with immense influence. ( containing ideas even picked up by communists)
Good point… people also forget that communism was almost a religion in it’s self.
Joseph Stalin was feared and worshiped like a god… Stalin’s word was law…
A little bit like the bible… you had to obey or you’d be punished!
True, and look at the icons and statues everywhere – He went to seminary and I wonder if it shows in how well he adopted the same methods of controlling the masses.
True, but that doesn’t apply to China or to Cambodia.
To some degree China has been homophobic due to tradition ! and religion, but there are many nuances. Remember :Strong family tradition and different religions . Influence from other cultures.Less homophobic was Buddhism.
My point is only that homophobia doesn’t ALWAYS boil down to religion (though probably 75% of the time – don’t mistake me for a religious apologist) – sometimes it’s nothing more than tribalism or herd instinct.
Let’s not argue about “trifles”. To a large extent we agree. I reacted ’cause half of my family are of Russian descent. As for tribes : North American indians ofte were very accepting to homosexuals. Good to know !
All the very best to Rehan from Oslo, Norway- It’s nice to realize that we have brothers and sisters all around The World-
Communism in Cambodia was a vehicle for genocide. – I don’t think you comment on institutionalised homophobia as a part of that without a great deal of analysis of what the Khmer Rouge were aiming for through their social engineering – gay people really weren’t high on their list. Also you need to consider how short a period they had power in the country.
As a people, tho, Khmer’s are largely bhuddists and have been since around 1200 (prior to that Hinduism was the main religion). The French tried to bring catholicism with them in the C18th, but outside of areas like Phnom Penh the French didn’t have a great deal of influence, so the homophobia wrapped up with that only took a small foothold, and I think now lies mainly within ex-pat communities rather than Khmer people themselves.
These morons would still believe the sun goes round the Earth if science hadn’t proved it 100% false.They haven’t moved out of the middle ages yet.
Only Satan and evil men want to kill people. This so called Christian is giving all the good Christians and gay Christians a bad name.
So don’t tell us, tell him and his ilk. Stand up to these people rather than bleat on Pink news about how you are getting a bad name.
id say cast him into the sea, but fat people with empty heads tend to float and i dont want him drifting over this side of the atlantic
This silly tosser is quoting from a ancient novel which also advocates the burning of witches and condones slavery. Isn’t it time these childish people got a life and stopped using that nonsensical old book to justify their own bigotry? I mean, please. This IS the 21st century – not the middle ages.
My question to him would be, is he Jewish? Because Christians are not meant to follow the old testament, as Jesus’ sacrifice released Christians from following the old laws.
What! And leave the poor kids parentless. That’s reasoning for you. Tsk! When will these people learn to think before opening their gobs.
I wonder why his creator made him so fugly.
Cast into the sea, eh? And this is from the all-loving God that Christians weep and wail over.
I agree. This faith-that’s-a-paradox is the ultimate in S/M relationships – and I decided a long time ago that leather bores me. All that confined, unimaginative bottom/top role-playing, regardless of having the plumbing for anything… no WONDER religion is so popular!
“cast into the sea” sounds like some sort of holiday advertisement.
But seriously, I think it’s funny that these “persecuted” Christians are always the ones calling for the deaths of others!
The Biblical verse he quotes is inciting Christians to murder anyone who offends any one of them. I suppose because it is in the Bible, it doesn’t legally qualify as hate speech. Whilst there are liberal Christians, there are those like David E. Smith who are as extreme as the Taliban. Unfortunately there are probably no laws stopping him from quoting hate speech from the Bible, but I doubt the U.S. legal system would protect him if he carried out the threat of committing mass murder because he’s ‘offended’. Some Christians might think Biblical scripture trumps all else, but national laws in western democracies are the only true laws. Perhaps David E. Smith should be reminded that drowning gay people will result in either the death penalty, life imprisonment in jail or a psychiatric institution. That might wipe the smile from his face.
jesus himself said that in order to get into to heaven, you had to sell all you had and then give the money to the poor.
Since i have yet to meet anyone who has done that, I can only assume that christians do not exist.
With that in mind, because they do not exist, anyone who murders according to what he quotes must be other than christian, and is therefore breaking the law.
it used to be easy, I was eager to go to hell, to avoid an eternity with the christofascists. Now, i’m thinking that they will ooccupy hell, too, so I’m opting for NO afterlife, just to keep things simpler
Hey, what a great idea. Lets cast all the bad cristians into the sea. Wait, we don’t want to poison the poor fish and water. Yuck! Research shows that when you have parents who care, the child is better off. Has nothing to do with if they are straight or gay parents. One thing is for sure, those with gay parents will be better off and brought up with more respect and tolerance then those not. Gay parents are not afraid to make sure they are doing things right and research while any straight parent just makes mistakes.
” . .claimed that children born in the twentieth century to parents who had a gay relationship have encountered more personal problems in adult life than those born to married, straight parents.”
Well why do you think that might be, if its true? I think it could be due to the appauling social attitudes that they have to contend with as children of gay parents. I think people like David E Smith are evil, because they try to highlight a problem that they themselves are the root cause of, and try to suggest that the solution lies in the repression of gay people, and not in their own enlightenment. That would be too much hard work for them i guess. We should pity homophobes. They really are dumb.
Has anyone done a study of the problems experienced in later life of the children of sick bigoted religious fanatics?. On the other hand, don’t worry, he looks far too obese even to case a half-eaten burger into the sea let along a millstone.
Pick and mix quoting again? Well done, mister.
In the NAV, the same verse reads “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.”
That would imply it’s about tripping Christians up, not offending them.
The NIV (1984) says, “And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck.”
So it’s only when someone causes a Christian to sin, that they should receive this treatment. (That would mean you have to assume all prospective adoptive children going to same sex couples are Christian. Er, this is not so.)
If you check what online Bible recources quote as related scripture passages, such as 1 Corinthians 8:12 (“When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ.”), you could assume that, in fact, what is meant is that Christians shouldn’t sin against or cause to sin other Christians.
In a nutshell, you can damn well make it say whatever you like, depending on how something’s been translated, and even how far out of context you take the phrases.
We could quote the Bible right back at him, saying things about the cut of his hair, the fabric of his suit and the size of his waist.
But that would make us no better than him.
Charming…. Yet again religion support the murder of innocent people.
Seriously how is this any different from the intelligent women the christian church used to burn at the stake for being a witch.
They haven’t changed.
And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea. [Exodus 15.21]
My my, that there sea’s getting mighty crowded. Horses too, eh? Well, at least it’ll make a change from fish …
(Honestly, ridicule is the best these fools could hope for.)
The bible – all the boneheaded dogmatic drivel that is fit to wipe your arse on.
Well no one can say that the US doesn’t have more bone-headed idiots than any other place on the planet! I doubt if that is anything to be proud of – in fact, it is really quite disgusting, imho!
jerk misquoting scriptures to suit, Show where Jesus said to do that?–he clearly is not a christian the detestable agent of satan!
Oh, yeah. Give me a good Christian daddy. They are hot. Bloooody hot!
This man should be prosecuted for hate crimes and advocating genocide.
Should cast you into the sea… inside a shipping container.