its not a case of “coming out” once, i did it a bit at a time to various groups- starting with gay friends, then female friends, then everyone at college, then family..and last of all by a long way all the elderly relatives we didnt want having strokes about it! This ranged really from about 14 years old to about 30!
I was unusual in coming out so early, most of the other people i knew were much later on – especially at uni- so its a good thing that (some) kids feel happier doing it earlier on now.
And the LGBT that have not managed to be true to semselves till 25 are non existent or what? Wouldn’t they bring the numbers down, if later it becomes clear that a number of LGBT teens was not in the survey?
I’m not sure what you want from these people. 16 to 25 encompasses people who are 25. Do you want them to hold on to their findings until people “have managed to be true to semselves [sic]“? For how long? An indefinite period?
They aren’t doing the survey for $h1ts and giggles, they’re trying to help people. How have you managed to put a negative spin on this?
Thanks a lot to The Metro Centre. I consider this to be very important– together with other ! projects related to young LGBTpersons situation in society.
It helps having gay role models for young people to look up to. For example if there was an openly gay footbalker. Robbie Rogers, who recently played for Leeds, has just announced he is gay – but is retiring from football. Hardly indicates football is a welcoming environment for gay players.
It must be stressed that this is a survey that can ONLY tell us the average age of “coming out” among gay people who are already “out” by the age of 25. Those who “come out” after 25, don’t “come out” at all, or have not yet “come out” when the survey was conducted but will do so before 25 are all excluded by the survey methodology.
I do not see any realistic way to adjust the methods to overcome these failings of course – by definition, if you’re not “out” you probably won’t be telling people and there’s no way to home in on you as a valid respondent.
But the implications of the survey and what it tells us must, must, must be borne in mind. Dan Baker absolutely cannot say that “over half of young people in this generation have come out by 16″ from this survey, At best he can say is that over half of those already out by 25 were out by 16.
Indeed, the ONLY way a survey of this kind can be made meaningful is if we also have figures for the percentage of gay people who are “out” at all – preferably split by age cohorts. If only 10% of us are “out” at all then the survey’s “half out by 16″ message is actually “5% out by 16″, which is significantly less impressive.
Surveys of any kind that attempt to measure the numbers of LGBTs in a given population/or age level, are limited because of the nature of the questions about personal identity that must be asked. A recent US study by Gallup polling has established a first-ever demographic atlas of US LGBTs, finding that state populations range from a low of 1.7% in North Dakota to a high of 10% in the District of Columbia. For a discussion of the poll and the problems entailed with its process, please see: